Subject: Re: I demand to see justification!
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Posted on: 2008-12-15 20:53:00 UTC
Trojie, this is the Whoniverse, science doesn't always make sense there, although it is usually physics that gets screwed over and not biology. Just puzzle over the Ood for a bit.
Pads, I didn't need to think about a pregnant giant head in a jar, thank you very much, but I suppose that I'll take it as payback for the stuff I've linked you to in the past.
The Noble Family Secret by Lady Clark-Weasley of Books reviews
the paradox has been completed, there's nothing protecting her and he has come to claim her. but there's a force stopping him and Sylvia and Wilf will do anything to protect Donna even if that means calling the Doctor and telling him their secret.
Complete - Doctor Who - Fiction Rated: T - English - Drama/General - Chapters: 9 - Words: 12,875 - Reviews: 81 - Updated: 9-8-08 - Published: 8-31-08
Looks like a lot of her stories could use sporking, just from skimming through them. Most of them have bad grammar and bad het. And the author doesn't seem to quite understand certain aspects of canon...*twitches*
Way to alienate most of the fandom there:
pairings i hate: 10Martha, 10Donna (it is not a romance, it is a friendship), 10Reniette (ick!), 10Jack, 10Simm (they hate each other and they're half-brothers, why the hell would they have a relationship?) 10River Song (for all we know she could be Jack after a sex change), 10Astrid (you know i get the feeling that someone decided to make 10 a man-whore), Jack/John, Jack/Owen, Jack/Jack, Gwen/Rhys, Snape/Lily (it's a friendship not a romance), Snape/Harry, Snape/Lupin, Snape/Sirius, Draco/Harry, Draco/Hermione, Draco/Ginny, Harry/Ron, Harry/Cho Harry/Hermione, Jasper/Bella, Jacob/Bella, Emmett/Bella, Allan/Will, Allan/Djaq, Robin/Much and Guy/Marian.
I don't know about the Robin Hood and Twitlight pairings, but they 'hate' most of the most popular Ten and Jack pairings (including Ten/Jack) and several of the most popular (and vocal) HP pairings.
I have no idea what they mean by that 'half-brothers' comment. Is that canon, either TV or book?
Ten and the Master are *what*?! Pretty damned certain the Doctor told Martha she'd been reading too many fanfics (or watching too many films, whatever) when she suggested they were brothers.
He's right on the Ten/Donna, I'll give him that.
But who is this "Reniette", and why is it so icky to imagine him/her with the Doctor?
Reinette, a.k.a Madame de Pompadour, was featured in an early episode of season 2. Without getting into major details, the episode was written like a love story between her and the Doctor, though it doesn't work out in the end. I'm not exactly sure why she's described as icky; the actress who plays Reinette is ridiculously good-looking, and I found her a witting and interesting character. However, I've heard that certain 10/Rose fans bash her for getting in the way of their favorite ship--er, pairing, that is.
While I'm no fan of 10/Donna myself, I kind of resent that she just dismisses people who do. If someone writes a good 10/Donna fic, I'm willing to put up with it, even if it's not my cup of tea. It's rather difficult to get along in a fandom if you can't learn to agree to disagree.
For a while the relation between the Doctor and the Master was in doubt, as in an earlier story the producers had intended to imply that the two were brothers. However, in Sound of Drums (NewWho, natch!), 10 explicitly says that the two were friends at school and not brothers.
And "hate" is a little too simplistic a word to describe their relationship, although it's probably an element...
By the way, what's with the "for all we know River Song could be Jack after a sex change" comment? I don't quite see a connection between the two characters.
And I hope never to see it again. I'm in the 'Jack is the Face of Boe' camp myself, although I am stuck on how a human(oid) can turn into a tentacled head in a jar.
TROJIE!!!! Biology would be nice here...
I'm a Face of Boe girl myself. I figure, over millions and millions of years all sorts of things can happen. While Jack can't die, it doesn't mean that he can't physically change. Possibly it's an effect of the Time Vortex stuff. Perhaps as he gets older and older the Time Vortex starts to wear off, it starts doing weird things to his body... or else he becomes a giant head for the sake of life support or something. I know, I know, you'd think that by the time he needed life support Jack would be ready to die, but wasn't Boe on life support in Gridlock?
Oh God--it just occurred to me that if Jack doesn't die eventually, he'll probably end up as a Toclafane. Brrr.
... and is stumped. A humanoid cannot become a tentacled head in a jar. Well, not with science as it is now. I mean, you could cut the head off a humanoid and *put* it in a jar, but that doesn't explain the tentacles. Does this head, y'know, live? Or is it a preserved specimen?
As to the sex-change, well, those happen. I don't know the canon or the details though, so I can't comment any further.
*Biology goes away to change out of the ridiculously uncomfortable spandex*
...It also has a baby. But if it is Jack, well, he's been pregnant despite being a man before, I'm sure he can find a way to get pregnant while not actually having any organs or genitals.
...
And now I am having horrible mental images of tentacles as genitals.
Disembodied heads cannot be pregnant!
Trojie, this is the Whoniverse, science doesn't always make sense there, although it is usually physics that gets screwed over and not biology. Just puzzle over the Ood for a bit.
Pads, I didn't need to think about a pregnant giant head in a jar, thank you very much, but I suppose that I'll take it as payback for the stuff I've linked you to in the past.
I'm still up in arms over it/them.
Either Classic Who made more sense or I was less ready to question what the media told me when I was nine. New Who just PUZZLES me.
What about the Abzorbaloff, Adipose, Raxacoricofallapatorians, Carrionites or.. oh heck, any of the New Who monsters bar the Daleks, Cybermen and Autons who are all carried over from Classic Who?
*mentally runs through a list of all Nu-Who episodes*
If I mention those medical nanite thingies in Empty Child I'll have to explain them and Trojie will have kittens.
The Mighty Jagrafess of the Holy Hadrojassic Maxarodenfoe was pretty cool, if a bit oozy, and they didn't really go into any science with it, so it passes.
There's always the werewolf from Tooth and Claw. Been a while since I saw it but I do sort of remember being hideously annoyed by how little sense it made.
Worst baddy award has to go, I think, to the Girl with the Scary Pen of Doom. And don't knock the Adipose. They're far too cute.
Don't get me started! That's not how fat works! Argh!
... and that's not how parthenogenesis works EITHER.
And sensible's quite a broad definition; see Jack Cohen and Ian Stewart's 'Evolving the Alien' for OMG THE MOST AWESOME BOOK EVAR on the subject. They, notably, do NOT postulate aliens made of sentient fat.
They *do* postulate aliens made of hydrogen gas bags, though, which is NEAT.
Do you know if it's available here in not-so-sunny England. glares at thermometer and rain that will be ice by the morning.
I'm after it for Christmas, so been trying to track it down so I can harass my brother. Waterstone's don't have it. Found a paperback copy on ebay, I think, for £8 but that's no longer available. Amazon's got it in hardback for twenty quid: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Evolving-Alien-Science-Extraterrestrial-Life/dp/0091879272/ref=sr11/275-6668681-2933730?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1229141389&sr=1-1
I'll look in Derby and Burton Waterstones tomorrow then. I might get lucky.
Given that I tried their website, and it says they don't have a single copy in any of their shops throughout the entire country. But there's no harm in going in and asking about it. Let me know what they say?
They're the two scientists who collaborated with Pterry on the Science of the Discworld books, and believe me when I say that they do NOT need the professional novelist to make their book entertaining and readable. It might be a little hard to find; it took me a while to track down a copy, but I'm in the arse-end of nowhere here, so in the UK you might have better luck.
I HIGHLY recommend it!
Nothing says he couldn't have wanted to keep them. Or that he couldn't keep them.
You're giving me hentai-esque images. Creepy tentacle porn hentai images. In Doctor Who. That's so wrong in so many ways.