Subject: I always assumed they could do both. Re: Telekinesis/grip. (nm)
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Posted on: 2013-12-18 00:06:00 UTC
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A new shade of PPC AU. by
on 2013-12-17 16:59:00 UTC
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A question came to mind by
on 2013-12-20 19:34:00 UTC
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Have you ever played Discworld Noir? Obviously, being a Discworld game, it's got more parodic bits, but when I was reading over the story and some of the comments here the it came to mind for getting a noiry feel from a usually lighthearted kind of setting (though, I'll admit, less so in a lot of the more recent books it seems). Though the Vimes books can get a bit hardboiled too.
Anyhow, I know I had my shot when betaing but I'll provide some more concrete feedback in another reply, a lot of things I could say have been said by members of the community smarter than I am. :P -
Never played it. by
on 2013-12-21 03:54:00 UTC
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My experience with noir and hardboiled has been more typically straight-laced, apart from the City Watch books. Raymond Chandler, Dashiell Hammett, and so on.
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I think I meant to address Outhra's thing there. by
on 2013-12-21 06:25:00 UTC
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Still, while I dunno if the game itself's still around it's easy to find a good playthrough on youtube. The talk of a normally semi-comic setting going all hardboiled brought it to mind.
(And I know about the influences, we talked about them in IRC. :P ) -
I quite like it. However... by
on 2013-12-17 19:12:00 UTC
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Thank you! by
on 2013-12-20 00:40:00 UTC
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The tone was definitely something I struggled with in places. My very first draft had a lot more mental metaphors, but it started to come off as being a noir parody instead of legitimate noir, so I took a lot of them out. I'll be keeping that in mind when I next write for the PPA.
Gah, I wish I'd thought of the frosted door portals beforehand! I really the idea the more I think about it. Maybe it can come up in some form or fashion later on.
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What I was envisioning for the portals had portions of that. by
on 2013-12-20 04:15:00 UTC
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I had pictured... by
on 2013-12-21 04:18:00 UTC
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I like that idea. by
on 2013-12-22 15:56:00 UTC
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It's a nice twist on the RA, and a way to make the technology particular to the PPA. Are you planning on doing the same thing with the other typical PPC tech like consoles and CADs?
I've also thought that HQ seems to be a surprisingly empty place most of the time. The thing that struck me most about that is that while some locations always seem to have people in them (such as the cafeteria), agents very rarely seem to encounter anyone else while walking through the corridors. It does make it seem like a fairly desolate place at times. -
HQ's supposed to be pretty huge I thought. by
on 2013-12-21 06:47:00 UTC
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Yeah though, a lot of stories don't really give a good sense of scale or of lots of agents all living in the same place. Maybe it'll come across more in future, spotlights on the more social aspects of HQ (Rudi's, the 'Cook, etc.) seem to've been helping. And of course, a big place doesn't necessarily mean everyone's wandering around all at once. :P
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There's a lot of terms. by
on 2013-12-20 19:29:00 UTC
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Goons, legbreakers, gorillas, thugs... I think the second one's most common. :P
Also, New Shade? -
Don't forget... by
on 2013-12-20 20:11:00 UTC
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Toughs, muscle, or buttons.
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Hadn't heard buttons before, neat. (nm) by
on 2013-12-20 20:47:00 UTC
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It is more of a mob thing, but there is a lot of overlap by
on 2013-12-20 20:56:00 UTC
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It basically means a really low level person. If the boss tells you to "push a button on a guy (aka kill)", you don't ask questions, you just "push a button on a guy".
A button man is just there to make sure the higher ups don't have to push that button personally. Wouldn't want their fingerprints on it, after all.
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Until PoorCynic comes up with a proper name... by
on 2013-12-20 20:09:00 UTC
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Oh, right. I just call it the PPA. :P by
on 2013-12-20 20:29:00 UTC
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New Shade sounds like a story title more than a universe designation, heh. And I know I've seen at least one work use "gorillas", just not sure where.
Funny enough, I'd been thinking on trying a more hardboiled PPC kinda story with my DIA people, but I suppose now that's on the shelf. -
I declare... by
on 2013-12-17 18:28:00 UTC
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That this is fantastic.
This is utterly brilliant.
I wish I had more words to say brilliant,
But instead I'll just stay here sounding like Arthur Shappey on repeat. -
Thank you very much! (nm) by
on 2013-12-20 00:35:00 UTC
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In case I was a bit too obtuse... by
on 2013-12-17 18:08:00 UTC
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The setting is meant to be a noir version of the PPC. Sorry about the lack if clarity.
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Nice start! by
on 2013-12-17 18:55:00 UTC
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Thank you! by
on 2013-12-20 00:34:00 UTC
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I always assumed they could do both. Re: Telekinesis/grip. (nm) by
on 2013-12-18 00:06:00 UTC
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