Subject: I think I can say less here.
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Posted on: 2015-05-12 10:03:00 UTC

You seem to have things well in hand.

Aragorn learning simple signs is probably fair (and Legolas learning them to talk to Amy is a great idea). You're right about the hobbits, too. As for Gimli: yep, they have, though we don't know them and I doubt they share. Which would kind of add to Gimli's discomfort with Amy - she's just going to use this stuff? Like, out in the open?

I think to handle Gimli, you need to let his objections be those of a dwarf, not a misogynistic human. He's not going to go on about how Amy's weak, or how it's indecent for her to fight, or how she should be in the kitchen. He's not going to say she should be 'seen and not heard' - we've never seen any hint that that's true of dwarves.

Actually, he probably won't object, per se. He knows that other races don't do things the same. But it would be like... oh, if you were a Christian who prays over every meal, before every serious discussion, and as a household three times a day. You wouldn't tell off your non-Christian friends for not doing those things while you were staying over - but it would make you feel kind of uncomfortable to have things change like that. Depending on what sort of person you were, you might end up praying more yourself, for comfort of a sort - or praying more loudly so they can all hear it.

I don't see Gimli as the passive-aggressive sort, so I'm thinking he's more likely to just... act 'more dwarvish'. Maybe he could get really into examining rocks as they walked. ^^

So yes: I'd make him kind of twitchy around Amy (and the sign language would only make that worse!), and quick to assume people were making fun of dwarvish customs - but not liable to grunt 'well, you'd expect that of a female' or whatever. (It might make him less likely to befriend Legolas, though...)

Honorifics... hmm.

-Legolas probably wouldn't use one. He doesn't call anyone else by an honorific, and elves in general don't go much in for them. Note that Legolas isn't called, say, 'Prince Legolas' at any point.
-Neither would Gandalf, for much the same reasons.
-Aragorn... hrm. He does call Eowyn 'Lady', I think, but she's nobility... as a better guide, how does he address Ioreth in the Houses of Healing? If he uses something like 'Mistress', then yes, 'Miss' is possible. Or, again, just don't use them.
-Boromir... what does he do with the hobbits? Just call them by name? The same, then. Since he does say 'the halflings' on occasion, I can see him using 'the woman' about her - but equally 'the elf', 'the dwarf', and 'the wizard'.
-Gimli would probably want to use 'daughter of' or 'mother of' (note that the only named female dwarf is known solely as Fili and Kili's mother), but he doesn't know them. ^
^ I'd look to how he addresses Merry and Pippin for guidance, here.
-The hobbits... well, Sam would use 'Miss', or even 'Lady' if he thinks she's impressive. ^~ Frodo would probably call her by name. Merry and Pippin... I'm guessing would follow his lead.

(I try my best to be impressive. ^
^ No need to apologise for mistakes, though - we all make them!)

Snowballs - yes, definitely. Essentially, any successful quest needs to give Frodo both a guide and a helper: a guide to actually get him into Mordor, and a helper to get him to the Cracks and help him throw the Ring away. Without those two, he wouldn't make it. In the books, that's Gollum and Sam (or Gollum again!); in an AU, it could be anyone. Perhaps Gimli guides them in, then Frodo knocks Merry into the fire and Pippin gets the Ring while he's distraught over it; perhaps Gandalf sneaks them through the mountains, and Boromir fights with Frodo for the Ring, sending them both over. One thing is certain: most scenarios require at least one person to die on Mount Doom.

(The one that doesn't? Sam carries the Ring to the mountain. He's the only person on the Quest who willingly gave the thing up. He could do it. Sam is awesome.)

Assuming the Quest completes at all, Amy as a guard/companion to Arwen makes sense - and solving mysteries could be really fun to read. ^^ Though bear in mind that the snowball effect is still in play; if Boromir lives, he'll become a major player in Gondorian politics - and if Denethor lives, you've got a whole new dynamic, with the established ruler feeling very threatened by the upcoming war-hero king. Yikes. (That could make for some conflict between Amy and Boz - he's very like his father, and if Denethor is moderately anti-Elessar... yup.) But yes, as long as you keep the snowball in mind, it could work well.

('Important person within the PPC'... heh. I prefer to think of myself as important to the PPC, given that I'm the mostly-self-appointed keeper of traditions. But I'm not an important person - just a walking encyclopaedia. ^
^ And one who never minds talking LotR, so you've nothing to fear on that score.)

hS

(I didn't say less, did I? Oops.)

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