Subject: Still doesn't mean that America invented pizza.
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Posted on: 2015-03-03 20:16:00 UTC
It's like, y'now, coming up with a new type of pencil, calling it simply "pencil" and claiming you invented pencil as a whole.
You invented a new type of pencil, which is all fine and dandy, but you didn't invent "the" pencil.
For the recond, Italian pizza was already called "pizza" in the '800. Your argument is therefore invalid.
So hey, next month is the Shipfest - pardon me, the PPC Boarder Shipfic Fest - and in the same spirit as last year, let's list our ships!
This is not the Shipfest itself; it's not the thread for stories, or for signing up to say you're willing to appear in them. It's just a thread of pure madness wherein we list the pairings (and morings) we ship in the PPC community. And then the list will be used to kick-start the actual Shipfest, because that's heaps of fun. ^_^
Da Rules:
-List your PPC Community ships - people in the PPC community (not organisation) that you totally think are/should be together.
-Give reasons for your ships. Otherwise it's just a random name generator.
-Revenge shipping is perfectly okay!
-Shipping someone with yourself - if you're not actually in a relationship - should be avoided; that's a bit creepy.
-No stories. This is just a list. Stories is next month.
-Have fun! It's a ludicrous exercise in ridiculousness, after all.
If you have a vehement objection to being even mentioned in a ship name, speak up, and people won't do it; it's as simple as that. And again - when the Shipfest comes round, no-one will write stories with you in them unless you specifically give consent.
So... let the shipping commence!
hS
(My ships are in the first reply, of course)
Behold, a very silly game about poorly written pony romance:
Twilight Sparkle's Secret Shipfic Folder.
I suppose I'm deVOID of any shippable qualities?
I'm told I'm pleasant company, but clearly friendly doesn't keep the ladies warm at night.
Just don't play any love songs. I hate those things, they rub it in my face that relationships aren't a thing I've ever done.
I'm full of these things.
Anyway, feel free to use me as a subject when the Shipfest does roll around, since I probably won't be able to write for it.
Stipulations: I am effingweird. I often hang around with strange people, online and off, and I'm a complete weirdo even by their standards. You can get an idea from reading the stuff I write for Valon; none of his train-of-thought stuff is exaggerated, I really do think like that. It's amazing how I can connect, say, scorpions to the largest storm on record (Super Typhoon Ty).
This isn't really about relationships or dating - it's more about... think of it as a sort of massive crackfic!fest, where the premise is "all of HQ is doused with hyper-reactive hormones and go into super-lust mode." So nobody's trying to set anybody up for a lovey-relationship where the Boarders go out for coffee and stare soulfully into each other's eyes and then get married.
I mean, last year there was a PPC boyband that turned into an orgy. I would place a great deal of money on the theory that a significant majority of participants in the first shipfests had never been in a relationship either – I certainly hadn't. It really is just for the absurdity factor - not to be taken seriously at all.
Because we all know you're only trying to help him so he'll fall wildly in love with you, ride into town on his motorbike armoured warhorse gold-plated dragon and whisk you away to a romantic beach somewhere.
... I think I just wrote a shipfic in second person. Oops?
hS
I actually did take horse-riding lessons when I lived in Maine.
Of course, that was almost ten years ago, so I doubt I remember how.
And if you're going to give me a dragon, make it silver.
Then again, guys can't ride golds, so whatever. :P
I've never read Pern.
and I've only read about three Pern books, but yes, it's pretty good.
From the full list of 'ships, I see that Voyd has been shipped five times.
So has Scapegrace.
Voyd and Scapegrace, equally shippable, but with such different outlooks on it... when they finally met up, how could love help but blossom?
Voyd/Scapegrace. Because statistics are the highest form of romance.
hS
After all, statistics, according to him, are the highest form of romance, and who better to embody statistics than Excel (or whatever program you might use) with all its lovely charts and graphs?
Because my beloved spreadsheets show that she's far and away the most prolific poster every month.
hS is vengeful
I really do love this place. Y'all are the nicest bunch of people I've ever had the pleasure to meet, both in-person and online.
Now everyone get out; the Board and I want to have some quality time. ^-^
So, that's twice I've been shipped with everyone and once with the actual forum. This is probably going to end up being the weirdest shipfest for me. Speaking of, when will that officially start?
My plan is to wait until this thread has definitely died down, and quite possibly until it's dropped off the front page (which may be the only thing to stop it from continuing to grow...). Then I'll open up the Shipfest itself and get people to say whether they're okay with being in stories - and get down to work on Huinesoron's Even Tediouser Day, of course.
hS
Huinesoron x Iximaz - the logical shipper shipped with the really gets around shipee.
Pinky and the Brain for everyone!
DawnFire x Firemagic - both are fiery.
hS x The Nameless Admin - because the Nameless Admin needs love, too!
As Nesh said, relax. Don't take this seriously. I mean, it's just a silly game people play for the laughs. (I mean, IRL I'm as straight as ruler but I don't mind being shipped with guys here. It's a game, no more.)
Friendly advice: You keep mentioning how you don't do relationships and are basically date poison. You should probably stop doing that if you actually want to be involved more. Taking this game seriously when it could not touch reality with a fifty-foot pole makes it unfun.
Also, don't do the Nice Guy thing, especially if you're being serious. As an article I read recently expressed it (more or less), you don't get a gold star with the ladies just for doing the bare minimum of not being a jerk.
~Neshomeh
That dude I avoid being just by... well, not interacting with women for the most part. I also don't blame women and accuse them of only dating jerks (demonstrably untrue), I tend to assume that I'm the problem.
I may or may not be bitter with low self-esteem.
Anyway, that's probably enough bitching and moaning from the dude in the corner. On with the show, I guess.
...is you. If you keep telling yourself that nobody would ever want to date you, then it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Here's the thing: don't view women as something "different" from yourself. They're human beings too, with the same interests and aspirations as anyone else! Now, I understand that it can be very difficult to interact with those of the opposite gender if you're shy or simply just adverse to doing so, but if you ever want change... You have to bring it about on your own.
Here's what I suggest. If you want to practice interaction with the opposite gender, use what you have to your advantage. This Board has quite a few girls around - get their advice too! Don't view stuff you say or do around women in a dating context - make some friends of the opposite gender, and be comfortable doing things with them. It will go a long way when you do start searching for a partner.
I don't really know how to do social.
I'm 21, but I don't know how to drive, I live with my family and I just left my job. I'm really not sure what to do now, since my computer is broken and my parents are super-busy taking care of my younger siblings.
I rarely leave my room, let alone the house. I do go out and play Pathfinder every other week, though, which I greatly enjoy. I'd love to play more often, but I really only have two friends my age, and neither has a driver's license.
I don't exactly know how to make friends online. I've been part of several online communities, and I have yet to find someone I truly consider a friend.
I know I'm a loser, but I currently lack the means to not be a loser. I don't have money, or transport, or neurotypicality. Yep, I have Asperger's and it has been the bane of my existence for my whole life.
But anyway... I apologize for hijacking the thread. You probably didn't come here to listen to me moan and groan about myself, and I didn't need to say anything. You may now resume your regularly scheduled silly forum games.
If you do want to talk to me, I'm always checking my e-mail. It's DBooker67 at that service from Google.
Being social is hard, and it's rather hard to get a hang of it. Believe me, I know. I'm autistic as well.
But wallowing in the thread and bringing all this up? Doesn't help anyone, not the other Boarders or yourself! This is supposed to be a silly fun shipfest, no need to bring reality into the mix! No one is asking you to leave, just... have fun.
>not interacting with women
That's the difference between being the "quiet guy that doesn't talk" and the "quiet guy that doesn't talk to women".
For the love of all that is good and holy, don't be That Guy.
...now I'm curious to see who I'm shipped with.
Because end of the alphabet love (x's and z's, represent!)
No, I don't have any idea why that makes sense, why are you asking?
Because I'm sure epl enjoys eating Pretzel's
Oh, I'm sorry, I meant 'pretzels'. You know how typos can be.
hS ^_^
But if you would prefer not to be shipped in this thread, that's entirely your right. Do you need the Nameless Admin to delete the post, or are you fine with it staying up?
hS
I'm sure someone else will find it vaguely amusing. :)
You/Hieronymous Graubart. German Pretzels!
I’m jealous. Why does he get the girl.
HG
And I see it happens already.
HG
Imma ship you/Desdendelle/Neshomeh/Huinesoron/World-Jumper, since you guys kind of showed me the ropes when I first joined. :D
Cuz, y'know, ropes.
(I am a terrible person, please forgive me. ^_^; )
~Neshomeh
Edhelistar/World-Jumper - I call it a 'Space Ship'. Because one has a name with star in in, and the other jumps worlds!
Storme Hawk/TheShyIon - Makes me think of custom units in Command and Conquer.
bluefa02/firemagic - Makes me think or Red vs Blue. If they were individuals, instead of teams of soldiers, that is.
World-Jumper/Voyd - Because jumping over a world lands you in the arms of the void.
Shark-Jumper/World-Jumper - This thread didn't need much of a jump start, but it never hurts!
Caddy/Data. That's traditional, isn't it? And Huinesoron/Kaitlyn/A-Too-Brief-Period-Of-Peace-And-Quiet...
Also Neshomeh/Phobos/Pizza. Because I can't believe I missed a pizza debate. (You're all heathens, REAL pizza comes from New Haven, CT.)
(I probably won't be much into this this year, for various reasons. But the pizza thread was too tempting.)
Oh yeesh, I so want to just go ahead and write this, right now.
I mean, I certainly haven't written four entire shipfics already in preparation for the Shipfest. I'm certainly not going to be watching like a hawk for the names I've got in them to say they can be posted. Definitely not.
(Historical precedent suggests that NeshBosh will almost certainly say people can write about them. Make of that bit of information what you will)
hS
Because you clearly have a thing for him, putting him in three of your five ships. Is it the hyphen? It's the hyphen, isn't it?
hS
What can I say? It's a very elegant and majestic hyphen! One can only dream of having such splendor!
Huinesoron/Sergio Turbo/Neshomeh/JulyFlame - The oldest members I can spot in this thread. All in the Anti-Hyphen League, no doubt! It's a pretty irony ship.
... When did I become one of the historic oldbyes?
Feel free to pick up your complimentary cane and tweed jacket when you are ready. Also, have some coupons for prune juice and, as always, there's punch and cookies by the door.
Just curious, are there any elderly Italian stereotypes? Because about all I know of Italian culture is Roman history, that I use the word confetti wrong, and that your pizza is inferior to America's.
"and that your pizza is inferior to America's."
*twitches*
Such an offence can only be washed away with blood. That... thing you eat in America can't possibly be called a pizza!
(Hint: Pizza Hut is a worldwide chain, but they never tried opening here in Italy... guess why? Because American pizza is garbage to us.)
Sorry, but it's the second time in a few days I felt hit in my pride of a True Italian...
The other one? Something that started with the recent "...ry X. Landf of Quattro" commercial by Audi. Here in Italy Fiat made a tongue-in-cheek parody for the Panda commercial (Italy. Land of Panda)... and not only Audi cited them for unfair advertisement, the judge even forced Fiat to pull out the commercial, when Audi's the one offensive to Italian motorsport history!
Italy is Land of INTEGRALE! Lancia Delta Integrale! We could kick the ass of their Quattro with the outdated, two-wheel-drive Lancia 037, too!
Yes, pizza is a dish that takes much of its influence from Italy, but the dish itself is an American one! It was a modification by Italian-American immigrants in the Northeast (depending on your bias, New York, New Haven, or, from one person I know, Providence) from pita in the 1930s – and, just FYI, the tomato is native to Central America, and wasn't even present in Europe until well into the Columbian exchange, because Europeans thought it was poisonous. So any dish based on tomatoes (or corn, or potatoes, or turkeys...) can sorta be said to be necessarily partly American in origin.
Then why here in Italy it happened to exist already in the XIX century? I'm pretty sure the Doctor isn't involved.
... Is he?
But the thing WE call pizza: a very specific kind of dough, with a specific style of marinara spread over it (you can't just use gravy, it's the wrong consistency), topped with sausage, or onion, or clams, or eggplant, or garlic, or thinly-sliced tomatoes and basil, or any of the above, then covered in mozzarella and baked until done... most certainly did not.
Or at least, it was modified so heavily by the Italian-American community in New Haven that "pizza" as we mean it here is a distinct food from its distant ancestor.
But back to your original gripe - Pizza Hut bears as much resemblance to pizza, as I knew it growing up, as a can of Dole's pineapple does to the original pineapple fruits. And Chicago doesn't count. That much, at least, we can agree on.
It's like, y'now, coming up with a new type of pencil, calling it simply "pencil" and claiming you invented pencil as a whole.
You invented a new type of pencil, which is all fine and dandy, but you didn't invent "the" pencil.
For the recond, Italian pizza was already called "pizza" in the '800. Your argument is therefore invalid.
I've just looked up 'pizza' in the Oxford English Dictionary.
They claim that the word derives from post-classical Latin dating back to at least AD 997, and may have come in from 'an unattested Langobardic cognate of Old High German bizzo bite, piece bitten off, morsel, lump, cake made of flour'. (Which means that Germany was calling some form of food something close to 'pizza' before Italy was... but I digress.)
The first attested use in the English literature is actually an English-Italian dictionary from 1598 - that's over 150 years before the USA was founded - where it was listed as 'a kind of cake or simnell or wafer'. In 1825 Baroness Bunsen was fed it (along with 'ham, and cheese, and frittata'), and in 1845, Francis Coghlan's Handbook for Italy described it as 'a popular cake made of preserves or of new cheese'.
But the best reference dates to 1878, and a book called Dolce Napoli:
'Anoint [dough] profusely with oil of olive, and dab in pieces of garlic, anchovy, strong cheese, rancid bacon, and whatsoever else may be highest in flavour and lowest in price; put into a hot oven, bake, and thou hast pizza.'
hS
There's seriously a line 'thou hast pizza'? That seems like a line out of a show or cookbook faking Early Modern English*, but OK.
*on a tangent, how many other people get really annoyed when tv shows and movies call Shakespearean langue 'Old English'? First off the top of my head would be the Tintin movie, which cited a perfectly understandable poem as Old English. No, writers, Old English is the original Beowulf, and Middle English is the original Canterbury tales.
Unless you're saying it sarcastically, like Ye Olde Englishe... no. Just... no.
But, see, that would require research. And we can't have that.
Pizza Hut is garbage! As is any chain American pizza.
You want to know the masterpiece that is American pizza? You come to the States, find a local joint that has no more then three locations in the entire United States, and buy a slice of heaven. Do you want thin crust or deep dish? Sweet or savory sauce? What toppings? Don't matter, find the most popular slice there, get one, and find out why you may have invented the best food on earth, but America has perfected the best food in the universe.
Don't most of the very good pizza places here have Italian owners, though?
-Phobos, True-enough Italian
Sauce goes to the bottom! TO THE BOTTOM DAMNIT!
As said in an otherwise forgettable live action series (I don't even remember the title, I only know that it was about this teenager who found a secret services laptop and somehow ended up doing secret missions instead of the laptop's owner):
"Sauce is the river flowing in the valley and cheese is the snow on the mountains"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neapolitan_pizza
This is best pizza. End of story.
(I'm not against extra toppings though - I for example kinda like adding french fries and würstel sausages (similar to the ones used in hot dogs). Oddly enough, that's often called the "american" flavour here)
Now shipping Sergio Turbo/True Italian Pizza. And of course Desdendelle/Tea.
And I guess Des/Sergio/A Weird Tea-and-Pizza Meal.
Sergio Turbo x Really Fast Cars.
Their love stemmed from an argument about pizza.
Firemagic x Iximaz because Iximaz really gets around.
Firemagic x Sergio Turbo because anime, magical girls and bespectacled folks.
Iximaz x World-Jumper because both of them really get around.
I like that people like me!
...Or, you know, think I'm silly enough to pair with personas. Whatever. I'll take what I can.
Our agents seem to have a thing for each other, which totally means we do, too! *leer*
I just find the fact that everyone's shipping me to be absolutely hilarious. Uh, I mean, my father will hear about this!
But then I'm not shipping anyone. The only things I've ever shipped are Link/Medli (Wind Waker) and SA-X(Metroid)/Pyramid Head(Silent Hill), and the second one was just me being silly and seeing similarities.
Oh dear, I think we've gone into Flower puns.
You would be hard pressed to find a pizza joint in the US that has fries and hotdogs to put on their pizzas. Not that I am against the idea, mind you. I make a mean cheeseburger pizza, myself.
Picture, if you will, a pizza crust with mustard and ketchup on it. Then you add sauteed onions and ground beef. Top that with cheddar cheese, then crisp bacon. Finish with dill pickle slices and put it in the oven. It is a thing of beauty.
-Phobos
I, myself, am a fan of the Avalanche pizza sold at Moose's Tooth. It has Pepperoni, blackened chicken, bacon bits, red onions, parsley, cheddar, mozzarella, provolone, and a very sweat and tangy barbecue sauce to round it all off. One of the best pizzas I have ever had. Anybody come over to Anchorage, I'll buy you a slice or two.
Eh, let Jon Stewart educate ya!
Here's the full clip if you want some context.
Also, because it's fun, Jon's rant at Trump for taking Alaska's greatest shame former Governor to an inferior Pizza place.
Also, if anyone ever happens to go to Louisville, check out this one place called Luigi's Pizza. My brother's friend's uncle owns the place, and the whole thing is authentic. Seriously good stuff.
If, indeed, it was pizza.
As opposed to some American alleged-cheese dumped on top of lukewarm tomato paste.
Protip: if even British people are calling your food bad, it might be an idea to crack open the ol' Beeton and try something else.
It also sounds like something we would laugh out of town. (Not to mention it sounds like a vicious lie concocted by a bitter New Yorker. I'm looking at you, Jon Stewart!)
Our pizza is composed of layers of flaky crust, meat, vegetables, mozzarella cheese, and a hearty tomato sauce filled with herbs and spices. It also bakes for almost an hour, so if you get lukewarm sauce on top, they're doing it wrong.
-Phobos, Copper Prep-Cook
Every time I read that description, I think the same thing: 'surely putting the crust at the top means everything else will fall off!'.
You're giving a construction list; I'm reading it as a deconstruction list. Fun!
hS
Not pizza.
It's a cake you get for someone or something you don't like, like the leaving party for that rancid cockbite from HR that keeps nicking your sandwiches out the fridge.
Also, you sound like a dog food advert. Which I suppose is exactly what you're being rn. =]
I dunno where you get your pizza, but if they put American cheese on it, they're doing it wrong. No pizza joint worth their salt, international chain or otherwise, would ever put American cheese on a pizza. That's just wrong. O.o
(Er, you were referring specifically to American cheese and not just any cheese produced in America, right? Cuz lemme tell you, the yellow squares are certainly crap, but if you're insulting all our cheese, the entire state of Wisconsin is gonna have a bone to pick with you.)
~Neshomeh
Where did you get your pizza? I'll bet you anything it's Pizza Hut. Listen, do you go to McDonalds for quality burgers? KFC for quality fried chicken? Dairy Queen for quality anything? No. So if it was an international chain you bought your pizza at, you have a problem.
I am so tempted to find some good pizza joint that will send their pizzas abroad and teach you all why America has mastered putting cheese and tomato sauce on bread. But by that time, it would not be hot and fresh out of the oven, and ruin the point. So, instead, you fly over here, go to New York, and get one of America's best pizzas.
What's the difference between proper Italian pizza and the export version? Wikipedia's mostly waffling about specific types of tomato and cheese, which is a non-starter (since that's a quality issue at most). I'm getting a vague impression it's partly about the 'bread' used for the base - the top image on Wiki certainly looks more like a flatbread with toppings than an export-style 'pizza base', and there's a quite mouthwatering description of Sicilian-style pizza as 'essentially focaccia with toppings' - but I'm guessing there's more to it than that?
(Fun fact: the first time I ran across the Italian disdain for American 'pizza' was in Rick Riordan's The Mark of Athena)
O'course, it's a good general assumption that any 'regional' food will be horribly mutilated in other countries. Heaven knows England's most popular dish - Chicken Tikka Masala - bears no resemblance to actual Indian curries (which, having once had one made by a genuine Indian person, are very nice)... for that matter, even Yorkshire Puddings are completely different to actual Yorkshire Puddings unless you make them yourself.
Yeah, that's the key. Shop-bought food is different to homemade. Even something as simple as chips (er, fries, I guess). What a world, etc.
hS
Italians use less sauce then we do, and thinner too. We also have a larger variety of flavors our sauce can be, ranging on the sweet and savory scale, while Italian is usually on the sweeter scale, wherever you would place a fresh tomato on the scale.
America loves toppings. We put darn near anything and everything on our pizzas. Pineapple, ham, sausage, peperoni, bell peppers, hot peppers, steak tips, you name it. If it can be eaten, odds are somebody in America has placed it on a pizza. Italians? Not as such. They do not put near the variety, not amount of meat that we Americans do. What can I say? Bigger is better.
Speaking of bigger is better, the crust. You want to start a fight in America? Tell somebody from Chicago that thin crust is superior, or tell somebody from New York that Chicago style is the best. There will be blood on the streets. Suffice to say, we have a wide opinion over how thick the crust should be. We can almost universally agree though, thicker than Italy's. Theirs is not paper-thin, but in comparison, they are eating communion wafers with cheese.
Aside from that, there are some subtle differences, but if I went further then that, we would be going into the differences between regions of pizza in America. So, suffice to say, there is a bit of difference.
Also, halibut pizza? Rather tasty.
At least some Italians go all "BURN THE HERETIC" when you even suggest the idea of putting cream instead of tomato sauce.
Get outta here! That's no pizza! That's some kinda corruption of good wholesome food beloved by all peoples! Cream. Does this look like some kinda cheesy bread to slather funky butter onto? No! This is pizza! Tomato or GTFO!
I'm kidding of course. I do know what your are talking about, I've had it, I did enjoy it. It's just... Not pizza, man. Tasty, and would gladly have more, but not pizza.
Close enough, I guess.
The "motto" of the ad was "Country X. Land of 4", with "country x" replaced by th name of the country the ad was being used in.
I suppose 'people in the PPC longer then me' would have been a better title, but I was sure you were one of the older people in it. Perhaps it's just been a while since I've seen your name and assumed it was a lot longer, haha!
I joined around May or June 2010, so it will be five years in a few months' time.
Apparently I'm oldbie enough to be a PG, so you certainly count.
Anyway, Sergio Turbo, you're officially an oldbie! *slaps bumper sticker on your forehead*
Although, I have to say, that Shark-Jumper guy? Totally nuts.
You know, I don't say this kinda stuff about boarders, but in his case, I'll say it. Since his introduction, the board has gone downhill. He has done nothing but spam sharks on this board, and I am sick of it! Yeah, it was cute for, like, the first few posts, but now it has gone way overboard. I hate him. I really do.
What? That's how you call multiple ships, right?
... Okay, I'm sorry. So...
SkarmorySilver/Storme Hawk: OF COURSE! I mean, bird shipping is pretty much something I already do, so...
Alternatively, SkarmorySilver/Iximaz: Because they wrote almost every mission in the last few months.
World-Jumper/Voyd: I swear that one made sense when I thought it out... Uh... They both have a human/nonhuman agent pair? Yeah, let's go with that.
SeaTurtle/Desdendelle: It also made sense when I came up with it... In that case, it's even more embarrassing since that was only a few seconds ago. Maybe it's because of the RP? Yeah, let's go with that (bis).
Iximax/DesDenDelle: Miniship! Well, maybe, if capitalisation minis count.
... Hey, I never said it was a big fleet.
I'm also kinda-OK-I-guess™ with being shipped. Have fun.
I have no idea if either or both of you are Italian, but for the purposes of this ship, you are.
I expect there to be pasta.
hS
Domirrosi is French (Corsican, to be exact). Sarge is indeed Italian.
And Spanish. And Austrian. And a lot of other stuff. I'm about 1/4 Italian, though. *shrugs*
And since they're the last two minis created, I ship ScarmorySilver and Domirrosi.
Corsica/Italy is my new OTP. ^_^
Though I see that on Planet Voronoi, Corsica goes to Monaco instead.
hS
That Pasquale Paoli (called by the New Yorker "the greatest man who ever lived") fought a bloody and protracted guerrilla war against French rule and frequently opined that the Corsican people were Italianate. =]
We technically had de-facto independence for 14 years, but then, Genoa sold Corsica to France to pay off some debts, and they invaded. (Well, they had tried calling the Holy Roman Empire for help before that, but then the battle of Calenzana happened, and...)
Of all of the ways my handle was misspelled you got for the semi-canonical miscapitalisation?
(Semi-canonical because I think I use it somewhere.)
What about Dresden? Or Desdenelle?
(And now, I'm imagining a Boarder/Mini-Boarder ship. ಠ_ಠ)
Sure, why not Desdenelle.
I dunno, your names are fun to say.
But hey, at least, it's funny to see people try to pronounce it. (The correct pronounciation is with an accentuated open second O, Italian-style. *shrugs*)
(Still haven't found a name for one of my potential agents, and using a terribly unimaginative one for the other one. Well, to be fair, he's a self-insert and chose that name in-universe.)
... Wait, didn't Edhelistar say he didn't want slash pairings? :P
Sorry, Edhelistar! *offers apology brownies*
And YES, I was guessing right about the pronunciation!
Buut, I also said that my genderbent version Ellethistar could be used instead of myself.
(Funny trivia: My genderbent self looks like Korra with green hair and glasses. XD)
Ship fics are fun! I have no requirements. However, I do have a "challenge" of sorts. Feel free to ignore it for humor.
You all know how much I love ponies. Perhaps to an absurd degree. For my challenge, you cannot use mlp at all in the shipping. However, again, if you found a way for it to be funny, please, use pony humor. Just... Consider it bonus points if you manage to ship me properly without using my love for little ponies.
Now, do I want to ship anybody... Hmm...
ScarmorySilver/Storme Hawk - Because love is for the birds!
Huinesoron/Kaitlyn - Because I need to make up for what the Knight Jumper said in Plort.
Scapegrace/shark - Because now I can't get the idea of a Tsundere Shark shipping out of my head.
I'll get this little guy to SkarmorySilver ASAP, all right?
World-Jumper x Shark because sharks. Also, World-Jumper x shank because it rhymes.
MLP sharks. They are a thing.
No, not that. Go away, Damien.
But yeah, there's bound to be somewhere nearby where a pastel-coloured shark can frolic with abandon. And lookit! Lookit the cute!
Poor sharkie!
In all seriousness though, I am rather impressed with that art piece. I can't imagine how much formaldehyde that took. Very interesting.
Now he can forever make the omnomnom face at beret-wearers in an art gallery. Livin' the dream. =]
I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. Dear Rowling.
And a pony shark!
I agree Twilight is a better story then 50 shades, but calling 50 shades a love story? I don't know...
If somebody does not write me/sharks in the upcoming shipfest, I will be be very dissapoint.
...has jumped the shark. *puts on sunglasses* *is shot*
God bless Tsundere Sharks
Boarders are lovers, not food.
Or maybe it was something else...?
Everything is a thing. But you probably already know that.
Oh, she kinda looks like human!Rarity. Shorter hair, but kinda pretty. Yeah, I could be down with that.
*reads article*
That's a dude!?
And his hair is... tentacles? Um. Well. Considering the nature of shipping... This might not end well.
I will not state the obvious. I will not state the obvious. I WILL NOT STATE THE OBVIOUS!
There are only incredibly girly men!
... is that right/what you were after?
/me has not seen YGOTAS
'my brain fell in the gutter at the mention of tentacles but I shouldn't make the NSFW joke'.
~Iximaz, who has the maturity of a twelve year-old
Don't worry, I had the exact same thought. I've seen enough... anime... to know where this is going.
Scared of bein'... eaten?
Never thought of myself as a vore kinda guy though. *sigh* Add another to the list, I guess.
(If there are people who don't know what vore is, basically, it's fantasizing over being eaten/eating somebody. In a pleasurable way. It is weird, definitely not my thing, but relatively harmless.)
Storme Hawk/SkarmorySilver, because I always think they're the same person for some reason. Dang birds. :P
Iximax/Huinsoren, a ship between minis because minis need love too.
And wow, people are actually shipping me? I did not expect that! But feel free to do so. :P
...I usually prefer to be paired with Boarders whom I've gotten to know on a personal level, typically by co-writing with them. This would kinda preclude me/Storme, and I get the sense that the two of us are constantly being shipped just because both of our usernames include a bird of some sort.
THAT SAID, assuming Storme has permission (and given that he does have agents listed in his user page on the Wiki, I'm guessing he does), I'd be happy to collab with him once I come out of all of my school and job-searching stuff. Especially since my upcoming DIC team will be taking on a lot of video-game continua. Apparently, we're not just birds, but gamers as well!
SkarmorySilver/Kaitlyn
SkarmorySilver/Araeph
SkarmorySilver/Shadow
YOUR PREFERENCES MATTER NOT. ALL SHALL FALL BEFORE THE POWER OF SHIPPING.
"And now the Shipping Forecast, issued by the Lust Office on behalf of the Partytime and Funguard Agency..."
hS
We couldn't find where we put the CD with Lillibulero on it, so we had to use this instead.
It got a bit lost in all that red. >_
Sorry about that, though. It's more about the confusing you two than the you both being birds thing, though that would be why I confuse you two. Am I making sense? Probably not. I can't words today, apparently.
Just look at these two love birds!
Well, those are actual lovebirds, but my point stands!
I'll defer my judgement until Storme and I actually get to know each other, but if everyone wants to put us together, then I'll be cool with it!
Storme, may I ask what are your thoughts on this pairing, and if it would be acceptable for us to co-write a mission if we get the time?
I'm cool with it,
Yeah, I'd be happy to co-write a mission at some point, although saying that I've still got 3 solo missions in various stages of completeness (which is to say, not very complete) and a co-write with Herr Wozzeck to finish up, so it'll be interesting to see what gets finished first.
As soon as I get my IRL stuff done and my agents ready, I'll flag a badfic down for the two of us and send you an e-mail! :)
I can be shipped with anyone, so go right ahead!
And... for some reason, Voyd/Iximaz? I'm not sure why but you two are kinda linked together in my head. Also SkarmorySilver/World-Jumper, for being the last two people to make RPs on the Other Board.
I just realized that a case could be made for me and any of the returnbies, because returnbies.
I'm not sure why I'd be linked with Iximaz, though.
I'm just the Draco Malfoy of the PPC this year, I guess!
Aw yeah.
Iximaz/The entire board - with the way things were going it was already going to happen. I just went ahead and put it out there.
*puts on Little Black Dress* *looks at leather pants* Mm... Nah, that'd just be another thing to have to take off... you know, later. *tosses hair*
(I just tried tossing my hair. It's too short to wok. I just got a lot of weird looks.)
(Pay close attention to the second sentence in your parenthetical.)
Ah, yes. Here, you gotta wear those Leather Pants. Who's gonna be Ron the Death Eater?
After all, I am evil. Just ask Iximaz about the Notary's real backstory one of these days. =]
After all, Ron the Death Eater is a good guy that gets bashed/turned evil/etc for no good reason. Like Ron and his family.
But I'm under the Implied Confidentiality of the Sounding Board, so that's all I'll say. ^_~
Because he just gave me a Lava Cookie... and lava, fire... you know.
... as long is not in a slash pairing.
Regarding shipping others, well I'm kind of boring with that. Ships-canon-pairings level of boring. I have only shipped one non-canon pairing in all history of fandom and I'm still on that ship despite it being deader than Disco.
Therefore my shippings are:
Huinesoron/Kaitlyn
Neshomeh/Phobos
Both for the reasons listed above.
Just for that:
Edhelistar/Huinesoron, because Elvish usernames. Throw in Elcalion if he's around, too.
(I have no idea what gender you are, but I assumed female. Sorry if I was wrong.)
~Neshomeh, completely open to being shipped herself.
would be the logical name for an all-Elvish-username ship, no?
Elcalion, who doesn't mind being shipped either.
THREAD? BRING OUT THE DRAGONS
How about Neshomeh/Huinesoron and Phobos/Kaitlin? That should be self-explanatory. ;)
I find it amusing that we had the same thought, but guessed differently about Edhelistar's gender.
Yup. I'm pretty sure the four of us had a married-folk orgy one year, too. }= D
~Neshomeh
[Ducks; Covers; Runs]
hS
Well, Phobos and I do hope to return to the UK for our five-year anniversary, so if you've got the bed space to spare... ^_~
(No, I am not seriously agreeing to an actual orgy, good grief. {X D )
~Neshomeh
(What, no? I never would have guessed. ^_^ So you're suggesting some sort of turn-taking arrangement stop no don't hurt me!)
Oh, yeah, you came to the Old Country and we completely failed to bother you with a Gathering, didn't we? We'll have to rectify that next time. Though, uh...
... I'm about to embarass myself...
... I just thought 'I wonder when they got married? It can't have been longer ago than 2000 or so... WAIT I MEAN 2010 NO WAIT HELP THE PAST IS OUT TO GET ME'.
XD
hS
August 2011 is when we got married, so look out for us in the summer of 2016. That is, assuming I get a new job pretty soon and we can actually save up for it.
We didn't really have time to Gather during our honeymoon, since most of it was spent on a cruise ship. We were only in London for a couple nights before we had to run off to catch the boat, and IIRC, nobody could make it in the narrow windows we had in various ports. Y'all are forgiven. {= )
To embarrass myself in turn, when did you and Kaitlyn get married? It was before us, but I don't know how long before. (Certainly not 2000, though! You'd have been like 14 or something; I know I was.)
~Neshomeh
And I was... yeah, 14 in 2000. Which was only a few years back! Right?
Captain's Log, Stardate 2015. ... ... ... I feel old.
hS
Please tell me it was the 15th. If it was, I'll die laughing.
The 15th is when my parents got married. it would have been hilarious if you guys shared the date.
*sighs and rubs temples*
Fine, I'll say it for you: Bunk beds are cool. It's a bed— with a ladder!
They're not quite as fun if you're tall. If I had a dollar for every time I've hit my head when I get up too fast, I'd be able to buy a soda from a vending machine! (Apart from that, they're still amazing.)
You're totally in on this bunk-bed orgy. Iximaz did say you two are canon, right? That means we're even sticking to a theme!
Of course, the bunk-bed means I have to ask everyone this question in the most deliberately-ambiguous way possible:
Top or bottom?
XD
hS needs a 'wicked' smiley
The bottom bunk. For spiffy cave/secret fort purposes. And, sure, top has a nice view, but it's so much work going up and down! *eg*
~Neshomeh uses chat abbreviations instead of smileys sometimes.
Personally, I've always thought it was best to swap over occasionally. That way, you get all the advantages - even if it can be quite a, uh, scramble to make the switch.
hS would add O:-), but it doesn't really look much like an angel
Because mom won't allow bunk beds in the house. Says they're too dangerous. Plus I love climbing, so that's an added bonus!
So many choices... Guess I'll go with top! And yeah, we're a few days shy of 7 months canon now. Besides, the top bunk has a MUCH better view for this sort of thing.
(Well, guess I'm jumping in head first on this whole "post more often" thing! :P)
Though we're much too young to get up to that sort of thing.
...
DIBS ON TOP BUNK! >D
It seems my Wario was inched out by Iximaz's Zelda for control of the top bunk. Well played, my dear... But beware the perils of random pokes and stealing the ladder from below. :P
When/where might it be? I'll be a poor college student in about six months, so I could make it to Chicago, most likely. I'd have to wait another three years before London. Studying abroad in Canterbury, f**k yeah!
I don't think you meant 'that' to refer back to a hypothetical orgy, did you? XD Only your exp**tive kind of supports the idea that you did...
Sorry, sorry. Ahem. This is me looking composed. Gatherings are fairly ad-hoc, and often come about when someone's travelling close to someone else. So you could probably negotiate with the other Americans to throw a Chicago Gathering any time; ditto would go for a UK one (we threw one for I think Araeph on about two weeks' notice).
Canterbury, huh? Is that a confirmed thing, or just an option you could theoretically take? I've not actually heard, uh... anything about the University of Canterbury at any point... which Google confirms is because there isn't one. ^_^ Canterbury Christ Church or Kent?
hS
(And yes, the double meaning was intentional.)
If everything works out, then I'll be going to Kent in 2018. Right now it's theoretical, but my parents have been saving money and apparently not many students from my school do the program (programme? :P ) I want to do, so I think I have a good shot of getting in. Studying English in England? Who ever would think of such a crazy thing!
I might end up in London sometime in 2016/17 because the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, where I might or might not study law, has an International Law exchange programme that sends its students to study in London.
We'd be missing each other by like two years! That's a lot when you're still a wee little kiddie like myself.
But seriously, WHYY?
You can always come visit us in the blisteringly-hot, terrorist-filled, way-too-overpriced desert that is Israel.
(Israel is about half desert, the winters can be pretty cold, and it's more probable that you'll die in a car crash rather in a terrorist attack, but yeah.)
Despite my mom's misgivings, my dad's been to Israel before and he enjoyed it there. Naturally, it made me curious.
Might be nice to see where your money goes. =]
there's a lot to see here, the people are warm - if not very polite - and if you like sun you'll love the weather here.
That said, that's about as off-topic as it gets, so if there's anything you want to ask, drop me a mail (sur DOT nhm AT gmail DOT com).
No, that can't be right. You cannot be coming to the place where I live. I must be mishearing you. Misreading. Whatever. There's no way that that's happening, right?
I'm not that lucky.
You seriously live in Canterbury?? Oh my goodness, we will continue this conversation via email. TELL ME EVERYTHING! :D
... male. Though I don't mind being genderbent for the purpose of ships. In fact one my oldest characters is just a green-haired genderbent version of myself.
So feel free to turn the "Edhel" part into "Elleth". XD
...unless I've been wrong and you're a girl? Oh dear, I can't remember. *ashamed*
Let the madness reign!
(Go ahead and ship me.)
Let's see, let's see:
-Iximaz x PC (makes sense in my head, but not anywhere else).
-Iximaz x Iximax (minishipping ho).
-Iximaz x Scapegrace (name-changes).
-Scapegrace x Hieronymus Graubart (The other Culture people).
-Hieronymus Graubart x Herr Wozzeck (both connected to Germany in my head).
-Huinesoron x Elven languages (no idea how that will work. Why are you asking?).
Huh, there's a disproportionate amount of Iximaz there...
It's just bacause I'm so faaabulous, dahling!
And shouldn't the minishipping be Izimax/Iximax? Did you just make a mini-mini?
No, mini-shipping as in shipping you with a mini, not shipping minis together. Though, that said, the worse Cargo Ship ever: Huinesoron x the Elven Feet Pole.
MINCEPTION!
*tiny bwonnng*
I've never had any love life to speak of (I did have an IRL date last year, but it didn't work out), so I'm not sure if shipping me with another Boarder would be worth anyone's time to be honest. If I had to reccommend any partners for me, though, I'd go with eatpraylove and Iximaz, both of which I got to know via collabs. A close second pick, as a few of you have guessed, is Herr-Wozzeck, whose writing was one of the reasons for my joining the PPC in the first place; if he ever comes back I would like to co-write with him as well.
Probably not Storme Hawk, though. Don't know him on a personal level despite us being birds and all. And I honestly have no idea why hS would be referred to as a bird, either.
Between other Boarders, I'd probably go with Neshomeh/Tungsten Monk and Caddy/Miah, both of which have again co-written some really good stuff.
Shipping... yeah. That subject I usually have a 15-yard restraining order against. And it's of real people this time.
You can toss me into this dish, but don't complain if your VoydxWhoever ship salad is bitter.
That metaphor made more sense in my head. Anyway, I don't have any Boarder ships that aren't already dating/married.
Any story featuring me miiiiiight just blow up in my face.
Full disclosure: I've been on exactly one date. The girl then went to medical school and was obscenely busy for a year. When I got back to her months later, she had a boyfriend. I now suspect that she may have been messing with me for a while. Thus my self-doubt regarding romance.
Also note that I probably won't be part of the actual Shipfest. I haven't the foggiest idea of how this whole "romance" thingamajabber works, so don't expect any such stories from me.
Also my computer's still broken, that's another factor.
Lacksidacksical looked at OlderThanThou. "You're hot," she said.
"So are you," said OlderThanThou. "We should do the sex."
"Okay," said Lacksidacksical.
And then they did the sex.
The shipfest involves deliberately ridiculous, over-the-top, wildly-inaccurate, or otherwise non-realistic portrayals of PPC Boarders. One of my favourite shipfics of all time is one of the very first - Night Sprinkles on a Doomed Fate by Twiggy. Wanna guess how much of it is accurate?
(None. None of it is accurate.)
hS
Are you claiming I am not the most beautiful, tall, slim, fair, pointy-eared, lavender/cobalt-eyed maiden you've ever seen? Are you claiming my body does *not* surpass that of Christina Aguilera?
You wouldn't be claiming that.
*offers a plate of SPaGhetti* Good to see you again!
*shoves a mic in your face* So, Kaitlyn, you've been made an honorary PG! What are you going to do next? ;)
How's life been treating you?
. . . but I do live a life of high adventure. Got a lot of packed lunches and laundry and stuff scheduled in *this very day*. Again, not to make anyone jealous, but the life of an honorary PG is very glamorous indeed. ;)
Life has been treating me pretty fairly, thank you for asking! How about you?
Enjoying my last year (mostly) free of responsibility while I can. College in six months? Where did my childhood go?! Luckily, I got almost all the AP classes I wanted to take out of the way in tenth and eleventh grade, so I have hardly any homework this year. Means lots of free time for writing. :)
Of course, when teachers assign projects, they seem to do it all at once. It's a conspiracy, I tells ya!
I meant it's inaccurate because it claims I asked you to marry me. ^_~
Also you would never name a cat Moonlight.
hS
The only parodic thing I can think of... uh, it may or may not expose me as a cynic.
Voyd said to (girl X) "Hey! Wanna start a relationship that may or may not lead to sexual congress?"
The only response was a shoe in his face. He spent the next half-hour beating his head against a wall for being such a blunt idiot.
... yeah. Romance is really not something I can see myself doing, not successfully anyway.
Bravo, Twiggy! Yes, yes, it's old. I don't care. This is a work of art!
Which reminds me, I need to show foofooman3 "Huinesoron's Very Odd Day"...
My real life is devoid of romantic love and I would like to live vicariously through other people's ideas.
In addition to this, I will endeavour to put the ship to music. Why? Just 'cause. =]
(would shipping music be a shanty idek)
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hS/Iximaz
I see this as kind of a mentoring-related ship, with the rise of someone to greatness as their lover looks on, proud as can be of how far they've come.
Theme:- We's runnin' a classy joint here, see? Nyeah.
Storme Hawk/SkarmorySilver
birb birb birb birb birb birb birb birb BIRB BIRB BIRB BIRB BIRB BIRB BIRB BIRB-
Theme:- BIRB BIRB BIRB BIRB okay you get the point
SkarmorySilver/Herr Wozzeck
Our resident purveyors of missions that go on for-bleedin'-ever. They like it loooooong~ >;oD
Theme: Geddit?
More as my memory comes back. =]
hS/Scapegrace. Scapegrace would so be a tsundere. ;)
(I had this weird hero-worship complex of the oldbies when I first joined, so you're not too far off the mark, actually.)
It- it's not like I have a subreddit full of these. B-baka!
Also, hS, what is the equivalent Sindarin term for b-baka? =]
It's a compound which would literally mean 'thoughtless', which is quite close to 'fool'. You could also have 'pengolu', 'wisdomless'.
Neither of them are quite as pithy as the Japanese, sadly. How about 'ungely', 'without any lore'? Of course, that's pronounced 'OON-gelly', rather than with the English 'un' sound, but it does look like...
... actually, it looks like a Northern or Scottish dialect term. "Aye, he's a bit ungely, if you know what I mean...'
hS
Now you've made me think about writing a crackfic crossover between The Lord Of The Rings and Last Of The Summer Wine.
Alltagevvernaaaah!
I did it for Shipfest.
World-Jumper/Iximaz - co-write
Iximaz/Her pencil - canon
SeaTurtle/PoorCynic - first two I thought of
Darkotas/Phobos - World of Warcraft
Huinesoron/SkarmorySilver/Storme Hawk - birds
I'm cool being shipped with anyone! Okie, parings...
Iximaz/Darkotas- Canon
Darkotas/foofooman3- Brocrushin'
foofooman3/TheShyIon- both my siblings (just in different senses)
SkarmorySilver/World-Jumper- both guys I've done co-wrires with
SkarmorySilver/eatpraylove- they had a nice co-write
Desdendelle/Neshomeh- they both love tea
Aw yeah, this is gonna be fun!
Replying to announce my shipping eligibility! I still like the canon pairing best, though. :)
SkarmorySilver/Darkotas? Because Darkotas sounds like a pokemon name, though Google informs me it isn't.
It's the name of my Warlock in World of Warcraft, and I decided to use it as my online handle for a number of things. If I was a Pokèmon, though... I'd be a Ghost/Dark type! (Despite both of those being quite far from my actual personality.)
AKA I'm willing to ship and be shipped.
And on that note, a return from last year Storme Hawk/hS, 'cos bird shipping (also if you want more of an excuse we're the first two people to reply to this).
hS/sjosten/TheShyIon/Caddy-Shack/Gigglet/Data Junkie/Iximaz (delete as appropriate if people don't want to be shipped) For those who may have taken Shipverse: Inhibitions a bit too seriously.
Neshomeh/Fish Custard/EileenAlphabet/Voyd/eatpraylove/sjosten/DawnFire/World-Jumper/Iximaz/Desdendelle/SkarmorySilver/Darkotas/dragon master 7/firemagic (delete as appropriate if people don't want to be shipped) Something goes wrong (or is it right?) at the first PPC fic awards.
Storme Hawk
AKA one more ship AKA the ship to end all ships (from me)
Iximaz/TheShyIon/hS/Storme Hawk/Desdendelle/JulyFlame/Darkotas/firemagic/foofooman3/Scapegrace/World-Jumper/Voyd/Kaitlyn/Neshomeh/Elcalion/domirossi/Caddy-Shack/Sergio Turbo/Phobos/VixenMage\Hieronymus Graubart\Pretzel\SeaTurtle
AKA everyone who's posted on the ship thread and hasn't (at the time of this post) said they don't mind who they're paired with (unless I've missed a post somewhere, it's a long thread, in which case sorry).
Storme Hawk
Iximaz x everyone and everything. Since she really gets around.
I think my brain is slowly melting.
I posted that while under the influence of the Sillies.
;)
I now declare you shipped with every single Boarder. All at once. >D
Wouldn't that mean that you're just shipping the entire Board together, then?
Storme Hawk x the Irish Samurai (is he even around any more?) because I always confuse the two in my head.
(This list was created over the last, oh, fifteen minutes; I'm sure I can come up with others)
Kaitlyn/Iximaz/Desdendelle/PoorCynic - our new PGs.
Kaitlyn/JulyFlame - the two non-voting Barons of Plort
Huinesoron/Kaitlyn - canon
SkarmorySilver/Iximaz - our two ridiculously prolific writers/Pokemon agent users
PoorCynic/Phobos - theirloveissoconcrit
Neshomeh/Phobos - also canon
Iximaz/TheShyIon - Big-and-Little-Sib Ship (Sibcest?)
Kaitlyn/VixenMage - well, I ship it. ^^
Kaitlyn/VixenMage/Araeph/Techno-Dann - the inactive Permission Givers
Caddy-Shack/Miah - cowriter ship!
Desdendelle/Neshomeh - this ship is a tea clipper
Hieronymus Graubart/SkarmorySilver - very loooong names
SkarmorySilver/The ShyIon/EileenAlphabet/SeaTurtle - CamelCaseShip
bluefa02/foofooman3 - theirloveissoalphanumeric
hS ^^
If so... hello, The ShyIon!
TheShyIon/an actual shy ion. Probably something like manganese VII; it's got a lovely pink blush to it.
hS
As long as it is a giant shy ion; I would not want to lose it. And not dangerously radioactive. For obvious reasons. :D
"You're like uranium 235 and I'm uranium 238/ Almost inseparable isotopes."
Drat, I've got it stuck in my head.
