I don't know too much about the specifics of things in the Naruto world, so I can only help RS a little with basic concepts and whatnot. Perhaps somebody could come help with details?
(In the meantime, I'd like Remnant to also take a Naruto Mary-Sue test, just because fandom-specific litmus tests are helpful for figuring out what's normal and what's pushing it for a specific world.)
-Twistey
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~Paging Naruto experts~ by
on 2017-06-25 18:39:00 UTC
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...Hmm... by
on 2017-06-25 18:23:00 UTC
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Judging by what you clicked alone, that stuff is usually what makes a stereotypical Mary Sue, but there is the angle that if the universe says that what they have is common for anyone... I'll check the doc.
(One doc-checking session later...)
I think I'll just put in comments labeled with my signature for advice. See you there!
-Twistey
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Wow, thanks! (email is also clickable. XD) by
on 2017-06-25 14:18:00 UTC
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And I think you wouldn't be the only person interested, so I don't think you should worry all that much. ;)
And thanks for the reminder; I forget sometimes which forums use which methods.
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Belated happy birthday! (nm) by
on 2017-06-25 07:22:00 UTC
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Happy belated birthday! by
on 2017-06-25 06:35:00 UTC
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Didn't post earlier because I have reactions to the interlude:
- The pun in the title was good
- That subtitle is reassuring, somehow
- I can see why Ripper would go for that birthday present, going off of species
- I like the description of Ripper's "don't ask" look
- "What to do with the meat" is going to be a running theme, I expect
- I'm not, in general, a fan of Rashida being insulting and such, but character flaws are important things, so let's consider just a snapshot of my opinion
- There's a "Rosh" in there somewhere. Typo?
- The exposition-bearing dialogue about various peoples' species was well done
- Ok, I'm now slightly confused [at the part where everyone meets Lilac]. Is Rashida in the RC or not? And whose voice was coming from in there?
- Falc, what in the world did you mean by that "supposed to be"? ... Well, whatever you were getting at, some sort displeased reaction was totally called for there on Lilac's part
- "...won't have you upstaging..." seemed like a noticeable shift from Falchion being super-apologetic a moment ago, but that could just be me
- I can feel the interleaved, swirling conversation after Chris phones in, so if that's what you wanted to represent, you've done it
- Everyone's rather aware of the fourth wall. I can't seem to put my finger on if the specifics of that awareness are unusual or not. If it works, it works, though.
- [around when Valon gets in] Wow, there's a massive pile of characters in this thing
- Falchion is rather insistent on keeping this about him (not a criticism, really, but an observation)
- The knife is a nice present
- Either that kiss was came somewhat out of nowhere or it was set up in something of yours I haven't read.
- Threats of a shield-hammer seem appropriate under the circumstances
- Not having cake can be a logistical challenge
- That does sound like a good birthday thing
- Meat situation is still somewhat unresolved, semi-disappointingly, but the bit about cooking was funny
- I like the bit near the end with Rayner and E.V.L. It was funny.
General thoughts are that this was conversation heavy, but it's an interlude, so that's sort of expected. The long speech was well done as far as long speeches ago.
Hope this isn't too confusing and maybe even helpful.
- Tomash
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How's this look? by
on 2017-06-25 05:40:00 UTC
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Two agents sat in RC 113a. One, an anthropomorphic fighter plane, was performing maintenance on her main gun. The other, a human woman with gold eyes and long black hair tied back in a ponytail, was using said eyes to attempt to glare lasers at the RC's console. This did not work, due to her unfortunate lack of laser vision. After several silent minutes of fruitless attempts to destroy the console with her gaze, she asked her partner, “Effie?”
“Yes, Min Ra?”
“How do you manage to keep so calm all the time, what with that Agni-damned console that you refuse to blow up and won't let me burn going off at unpredictable intervals? It's hard to even complete a firebending form without that blasted thing beeping!”
“It is our duty as PPC agents to be ready at all times to exorcise the influence of Mary Sues. I rather look forward to it,” Effie Raptor answered.
Min Ra leaned forward from where she was sitting on her bed, pondering what her partner could possibly mean by that. She was looking forward to being woken up at any hour of the night...day… however time worked in HQ. How was that kind of attitude possible, unless…
Min Ra suddenly sat up straight.
“I got it!” she exclaimed, “it's reverse psychology! The console always beeps when you don't want it to, so if you want it to beep, it won't and you can get some time to yourself! I'm gonna try that!”
She then stared intensely at the console with what was probably intended to be an eager look. Effie, curious about what would happen, observed her quietly. She didn't have long to wait before Min Ra's attempt turned up a result.
BEEP!
“Darnit!”
Min continued to curse at the console as it lit up and displayed their next mission, like always. Effie made sure to read all the data and conceal her smile at Min's expense, and Min Ra got their gadgets ready for the assassination to come. Oh well, maybe she'd get the trick to it next time.
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In all of Min's experience, Effie Raptor was not someone prone to being frantic. She had never yet observed her partner being anything but calm and precise, presumably because being distracted at Mach 2 and 30,000 feet would likely result in a death that would be quite spectacular to anyone but the unlucky fool who had to experience it.
And yet, there Effie was, nearly tearing the RC apart in search of something. After a few minutes of Effie fruitlessly looking for whatever she'd lost, Min decided to ask her, “What's lit your hair on fire, Effie?”
“I lost a package of TNT.”
Min replied, “Okay, that's bad, but-”
“I think it's on your side of the room.”
That got a response. Min immediately got off the bed, declaring, “Okay, I'm looking. I am not risking getting blown up in the middle of firebending practice.”
Min started looking through her stuff, searching for whatever it was that Effie had lost. She had turned her living space into quite a mess by the time she realized she had no idea what she was looking for. She knew what TNT was, but she didn't know what this particular batch looked like. So she asked Effie, “Um, what should I be looking out for?”
“An unpainted metal box, small enough to be held with both hands-” Effie began to respond, before Min interrupted. “You've got tons of those, you even gave me a few when I broke my shelf last week.”
Effie shot her partner a disapproving look at the interruption. “And it is clearly labeled 'Trinitrotoluene, 4 kg'”
Min Ra thought for a bit. “Wait, you meant this box?” she asked.
She then rearranged some of the mess to reveal a small metal box, one of several around. The difference was that this one was entirely unpainted and very clearly labeled 'Trinitrotoluene, 4kg'. Min handed it to Effie, who looked rather surprised to see her problem solved just like that. She asked Min: “How did you miss that one?”
Min shrugged and said, “Didn't know what I was looking for and thought it was the one I stored my firebending scrolls in.”
Effie stared at her partner with something resembling visible disbelief. “But it was clearly labeled with what it was. How could you miss it?”
Min Ra was confused. “No it wasn't. It's labeled trinitrotoluene, and you were looking for TNT,” she told Effie.
Effie, exasperated, corrected her. “They are the same thing. TNT is short for trinitrotoluene.”
Min sat there for a few moments in silence, blinking and taking what was, in hindsight, freaking obvious. 'Trinitrotoluene' was rather unwieldy to say in casual conversation, and English was very conducive to shortening long words. There didn't seem to be any more she could say on the topic, so instead she apologized. “Sorry about the mistake. I really hate contractions. Pictographs are so much more straightforward.”
Effie reassured her, “That is comparatively unimportant. Rather more important is that you ask me what you're looking for before tearing up your room. That will take hours to clean up.”
Min Ra sighed in irritation. Like many teenagers around the multiverse, cleaning her room was very low on her (metaphorical) list of things she liked to do with her spare time. So she pleaded with Effie. “Can't I just leave it like this?”
Effie, now that the trouble was over, had resumed her cold and emotionless demeanor. “Your neuralizer is part of that mess, so no.”
It took a while and much more foot-dragging, but eventually Min Ra cleaned up her side of the RC under Effie Raptor's watchful eye. As Effie kept pointing out more important things that she'd missed, either accidentally or on purpose, Min hoped that the console would beep and she'd get a mission she could use to procrastinate her room cleaning.
But, in accordance with the Laws of Narrative Irony, it never did.
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Well ... by
on 2017-06-25 05:22:00 UTC
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if you're willing to put up with rather long delays caused by my having a whole lot more things to do than time to do them in, I'd be willing to help write a thing if you'd prefer not to do it yourself, even though there's nothing stopping you from doing that (you don't need Permission to MST). I don't trust myself enough to keep the canons in character on my own, but I figure either you or the two of us could maybe manage it?
I've also been quite happy with the quality of the YW fanfic on AO3, so any badfics are probably either deeply buried or hiding on FFNet somewhere.
My email is clickable if you want to coordinate (again, you don't have to).
- Tomash
P. S.: For formatting, you basically had it except you want <>s instead of []s.
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!!! by
on 2017-06-25 04:50:00 UTC
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I did not know this was happening, but it's an excellent surprise.
And can I say that it warms my shriveled, aged heart to see so many people who read YW, because it was an *extremely* fringe fandom when I sauntered onto the fanfic sceneat the dawn of time.
Thanks for the heads up, Tomash.
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//O.O// by
on 2017-06-24 18:48:00 UTC
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Wow, really? I've never really seen myself creating this sort of thing; usually I'm just an observer.
As for the [i]what[/i], I was figuring maybe some of the older fics on FFNet? Since the recent stuff really is high quality, especially on AO3. Maybe people could submit stuff and we'd do this as a group?
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If you want them to be a thing by
on 2017-06-24 17:56:00 UTC
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then they're a thing.
Canon characters riffing is somewhat traditional, in fact, so I can't possibly see why anyone would object.
Out of curiosity, what were you looking to MST?
- Tomash
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That Litmus Test... by
on 2017-06-24 17:30:00 UTC
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Well my characters generally scored in the 22-29 or 30-35 range depending on how I interpreted the questions. I mainly clicked on awesome powers, tragic past, badass clothes, strong despite being looking delicate, and slight connection to the canon characters.
Anyways, here is a link to my character profiles, they are a bit long because I went into detail regarding usage of a few made up techniques. There is a Tl;Dr at the bottom.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13rEYshBxcW4eQA1tKgmkmMNFOSW-Y4QXSmge1LStEkI/edit?usp=sharing
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How did I typo that badly? It's WIZARDS. (nm) by
on 2017-06-24 14:39:00 UTC
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/Has already been squeeing... by
on 2017-06-24 14:39:00 UTC
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... And I don't even have the Ordeal set yet! 8'D Also, that reminds me: MSTs with Young Wizarsd characters? Might that become a thing?
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SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! by
on 2017-06-24 08:40:00 UTC
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Ahem. I'm sorry, I had to get that out of my system. What was I thinking? Ah, yes. I really need to get these. I did not know these were a thing but now I want them. A lot. I must find a way to get these into my clutches. Thank you for the information.
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Happy birthday (nm) by
on 2017-06-24 06:15:00 UTC
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So, Cousins, I thought you should know that by
on 2017-06-24 05:33:00 UTC
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the story of Ronan's Ordeal is now a published thing. There's also a combined volume that collects it with Roshaun and Mamvish's Ordeal stories. A different post confirms that said combined volume will be available as a physical book, but not for another month or two.
(I, for one, pre-ordered, so I'll be reading this soon. If you hear incoherent squeeeing coming from the direction of the Board, that's just me. Nothing to worry about.)
- Tomash
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Eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy~ by
on 2017-06-23 23:36:00 UTC
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My newbie gift for you is a knife and a pistol. Use them wisely until you can find better weapons.
Anyway, you say people are calling your OCs Mary Sues? Well, maybe I can help. Give me some short descriptions of your OCs, as well as their scores on the Universal Mary Sue Litmus Test (and preferably what you clicked), and maybe I can help you out. I'm good with helping people fix OCs based on short descriptions and bios.
-Twistey
Links:
The Universal Mary Sue Litmus Test:
http://www.springhole.net/writing/marysue.htm
And in case you want to get the references I made with my newbie gift:
http://wolfenstein.wikia.com/wiki/Wolf_3D
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Interesting that you guys mentioned this... by
on 2017-06-23 23:34:00 UTC
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...because I myself was wondering if there needs to be a Department of Bad Fangames/Mods, Department of Bad Fan Animations, Department of Bad Fan Comics, etc for stuff that's fanwork but not written (like fanfic is). Or maybe even an organization different from the PPC entirely. The thing is, fangames and whatnot are a different challenge than fanfiction, because with fangames, you have to have enough skill to progress through the game, and with fan animations, there's no saving your progress, so if it's long, you have to have a lot of time on your hands. And it wouldn't really work to critique the work in writing, because then you'd have to describe things in the game, which wouldn't be quite as easy as just having a YouTube channel and doing a critique/let's play hybrid thing.
You know what? For that stuff, we need a PPC YouTube channel. I guess. Or people could refer to the PPC in the title of their video and so those would all show up in the same search. Some of us could do mod reviews, some could react to and review fan animations, some could read fan comics with fun voices, and some could just scroll through Google Images or DeviantArt looking up "[fandom here] fanart". That'd be really great. Annnnd since I'm pretty sure YouTubers get paid for views and subscribers, all the money that we get from the PPC videos could be donated to writing websites like Springhole.net and fantasynamegenerators.com.
Just kind of throwing that idea out there. Sound cool? Any thoughts? Or what?
-Twistey
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Happy birthday! *gives cake* (nm) by
on 2017-06-23 23:04:00 UTC
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In that case... (PAGING BLUE PEARL) by
on 2017-06-23 22:51:00 UTC
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...I'm going to start giving newbies their choice of souvenirs from both the iD Software 'verse, other obscure 'verses, and my own created universes.
Since Blue Pearl doesn't seem to be the type for first person shooters, and I don't have a Wattpad account yet so explanations of what stuff is in my universes aren't readily accessible, I guess I'll just give a backup gift.
Here, have your own pet history textbook. I haven't house trained him yet, and those teeth on his edges are a bit sharp, so... uh... good luck.
-Twistey
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*Shoots a portal and high fives you through it* (nm) by
on 2017-06-23 22:38:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday! (nm) by
on 2017-06-23 20:23:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday! (nm) by
on 2017-06-23 19:41:00 UTC
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Birthday interlude! by
on 2017-06-23 18:01:00 UTC
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Because since I'm turning 24 today, then so is my PPC self-insert. :D
(Warning: Spoilers for some of my future PPC writing plans wherein!)
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I recommend Portal by
on 2017-06-23 04:43:00 UTC
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It's a fun game, not super long, and GLaDOS' sass is good stuff.
I need to beat Portal 2 and probably take another shot at Terraria one of these days.
- Tomash