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I have asked Iximaz to step back from the conversation, and they have agreed to do so. I have advised them to keep you blocked on Discord as well, at least for the time being.

If you have questions regarding conduct on the Discord channel, feel free to PM me. My interests lie in the channel being a safe, productive place for all Boarders.

I have told you multiple times that you were being rude.

You're not allowed to talk back to me.

Simply because my memories of the whole incident are rather foggy and it's not the current subject of the matter. Instead, let me just run through your last sentence:


"I was just trying to open communication with Iximaz"

Which she made clear that she wishes not to participate in. Unless you understand the words "I'd rather" as a suggestion, and not a definite conversation finisher.

"but they wouldn’t even clarify if (...)"

Iximaz had no obligations to explain herself to you. You are inclined to believe whatever you wish, but the messages were as clear as it can possibly be: I have no desire of making amends with you, leave me be.

"The mediator couldn’t even give a straight answer."

I don't know what you and DJ talked about, but I know DJ enough that I believe her explanations weren't much different from what the people has stated here.

I will repeat myself once again: You did something, whatever it was, that made Iximaz feel uncomfortable with you. Uncomfortable enough to not wanting to talk things over. And yet, you keep on pushing, and pushing, and pushing, when she made more than enough claims that she doesn't want to make amends with you. At the very best, when her negative emotions are over, she will ignore you and both of you can live their separate paths, not sparking any more conflicts.

Please, get this finally into your head: You are not on Iximaz's good list. And after this little show, you will never be. Nothing you can do about it.

This also ends my hypocrisy.

Irrelevant.

I asked you to talk to me. You did not listen.

You wanted me to apologize without ranting. I did so. That should not mean that I shouldn't be asked for my point of view.

I have no desire to see you angry at me for no reason. You're free to leave, especially after your continued, blantant disrespect for me.

All it took was a simple apology and you felt the need to exacerbate things. This is not okay.

I asked you to leave me alone. Multiple other people have told you to do the same. You did not listen.

I asked you to apologize without ranting. You failed to do so.

I had no desire to talk to you before, and I will never have a desire to talk to you again, especially after your continued, blatant disrespect for me.

I'm sorry. I won't do that again.

I want explanations for Iximas' behavior, I want a long-winded ramble on why Iximaz really really doesn't want to talk to me beacuse she's just so mean.

I was too shy to speak up before, but when Iximaz and Desdendell were trying to “help” me with my characters, all they did was scream at me and make me feel stupid for asking for help. Then they told July that I had given them trouble. Ix even said that I was being snippy when I was just telling her that I already knew that. I’m pretty sure that one of them started the rumor that I was difficult to work with.

Iximaz took other jabs at me. Saying I disregarded their advice and then not being able to say what that advice was. The irritating part is when Iximaz would say something like ‘I’m not commenting on this because I can’t trust myself to be impartial.’

I was just trying to open communication with Iximaz, but they wouldn’t even clarify if ‘I don’t want to talk to you’ meant “I don’t feel like talking to anyone right now” or “go die in a fire you piece of garbage.” I’m inclined to believe the latter and it’s rude. The mediator couldn’t even give a straight answer.

Attempting responses in order here:

It looks from my reading of the chat logs like your position was that the screenshot should definitely be posted (with personal information removed) after you contacted July, regardless of what she said in that contact. Would you say that is a fair summary?

No, I wouldn't. At least, that doesn't accurately represent my intent at the time.

There were two conditions to my posting the screenshot: July's permission and an investigation into wrongdoing for me to post it as evidence in. I want to be clear that both conditions would have to have been met in order for me to post it.

As evidence, I made efforts to obtain JulyFlame's contact information for the express purposes of asking for her permission. That wouldn't have mattered to me if I'd planned on posting it regardless.

On my own quote:

In this case, though, the changes proposed in community standards pretty much state that we need to go after someone, so separating the two issues here is nuanced.

Well, they do. In the form of an orderly and reasoned thread on this Board, and not a witch hunt. I think there's a difference.

Firstly, on intents from people inside the conversation:
Ekyl wanted to move the conversation into the sphere of rules. He seemed to hold that a discussion of community rules and proceedings was an entirely separate issue from the incident that necessitated the rule change in the first place. I disagreed.

When I said that separating the two issues was nuanced, I meant that they are difficult to separate. It's like trying to put up guards against an army you've never seen, only, in this case, you don't even know if that army exists.

When you're laying down rules in a community— rules made specifically to avoid a kind of harassment, you have to know exactly what harassment you're attempting to avoid. In order to discuss that, you have to know what actually happened in the first place, which, in turn, required an investigation.

And that brings me to my second point—my intent.

The change in community standards, in that case, would absolutely mandate an investigation into the veracity of claims of harassment.

But not in a storm of sans-consent posting of private conversations. But what I meant by "go after" was getting in touch with JulyFlame and saying "Hey, can I get your side of the story from you, and would you be willing to share that with the Board? Also, we have a screenshot that may or may not be relevant and is rather one-sided in context, could you maybe explain that?"

"Also, move our vector to the Southeastern-most point possible."

You're hurtling towards the inner system. :) But you can refrain from maneuvering, and end up in the centre of your arrival area.

Two missiles can occupy the same space. Missiles are small, and starships are big. (Though if you have control of a missile, you could order it to attack an opposing one.)

You can't communicate with the convoy while it's in hyper, but I think it'll drop out a turn before your missile hits, so will be safe. And hey, if they miss seeing the battle on sensors, the missile will be a big hint that something's up!

(By sheer coincidence, firing ultra-long range missiles to let someone know you're there has been used at least once in the Honorverse books...)

hS

That's why, once I did notice, I made very sure to make my position clear.

For future reference, since this has come up before: I do not use genuine questions as a way to dismiss something. I sometimes use sarcastic/rhetorical ones to do so, but never actual questions that need an answer.

I support your request for an apology precisely as written.

hS

There was nothing in the break in the first quote; discord was silent for half an hour, as sometimes happens in the off hours. Ix's response was the immediate first reply, and conventionally appropriate for picking up a conversation that's gone quiet.

And as others have said, Bram participated in a few unrelated conversations in the hours before the final exchange, but the last comment was completely out of the blue. There had been a brief silly discussion of sports a couple hours before, someone showed up and got greeted at ten-plus-change, and then Bram commented at eleven thirty.

No explanations for her behavior, no long-winded ramble on why she really really wants to talk to me but I'm just so mean. Just seven words: I'm sorry. I won't do that again.

I want her to after that not talk to me again. Ever.

The last time something similar to this happened was with GlarnBoudin and that turned out just spectacularly.

hS, I'm sorry if I'm coming off as hostile right now, but your reaction is just enforcing my suspicions why nobody bothers to report this stuff in the first place. I wanted to nip this in the bud before it became an ongoing problem and the initial response, to me, looked like "I don't care."

"They appear to be in the line of fire of our ballistic."

"We may take a hit, but I want to give the good 'ol Lasers a go. Set our missile vector to Southeast if possible and send another big boy to the Southeastern vector closest to us. You boys handle the rest

((The captain decides to not move, adjust a Missile Vector, and fire the missile.))

((Follow question: can 2 missiles occupy the same space?))

"They're coming about, skipper." The Tactical Officer looks over at your chair. "Target 1 looks to be trying to loop round and cut us off to the north. Target 2 is making a beeline for us. Assuming there's nothing else out there, the convoy should be safe."

"Which doesn't mean we are," the XO puts in. "We've got three missiles coming our way. One's flying ballistic, but the others have enough power left in them to give us trouble."



Shooting things in space is hard. I've had the TO update the plot to include projected missile vectors, which should help some. :)

hS

However, I have yet to see much of anything that I've even wanted to respond to. I didn't submit any problems via email, and I have yet to disagree too strongly with anything that's been said--that or someone's already disagreed.

I'm also very busy right now: I'm preparing to go on vacation next week, and am simultaneously dealing with applications and arrangements for spending next year studying abroad. I don't have the time or the emotional energy to participate. I'd also much rather spend my free time on things that don't add to my stress levels, especially when I'm not particularly tempted to respond to begin with.

I'll comment if I feel it's necessary at some point (and that I have a clear thought to express), but otherwise I'm staying out of this when it comes to posting.

~Zing

Missile 1, aim for the center of the range, which should take all she's got.

Missile 2, Macross maneuver.

Missile 1 is currently headed for the hex NW of Target 1. The smaller black _/ is the limit of its guided range (though of course it will still exist and keep moving next turn).

Similarly, the larger black _/ is the furthest you can chuck a missile from your ship now. Its vector next turn will be a line from where your ship is now to where the missile ends turn, so anything forward of your position will keep moving away from the enemy.

hS

Missile one, target closest hex to the Emergence Point ((middle of the SE edge)). Should take all it has left to get there.

Missile 2, aim for the center of their range. We'll see what they do.

I was not expecting an even split. I was laughing at the thought of an even split.

Whoa.

That's incredible.

Also, whee, stats!

~Zing