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But they're also not as green as they are in, like, the US. They're definitely 青!

of travel blogs and videos saying Japanese green traffic signal is blue because it's called 青信号 🤣🤣🤣 I had actual Japanese people call bullcrap on this to my face so there ya go.

In all seriousness, wow. It looks like something I would find in my eye doctor's office (my eye doctor has some weird stuff) or something my aunt would give me.

Both of those are meant to be complimentary in this case. You did a really good job editing!

Now I wanna create a Sue who falls in love with the 11th doctor.

-kA

I dug up the cover of 2013's Le Petit Sue! Behold:

I guess in 2013 I did use the correct article/adjective, but in 2006 when I first came up with the idea (and that was years before I started learning French) I had the wrong ones. I don't have the 2006 ones anymore because they were drawn in notebooks in between my homework and probably long-since tossed out.

As RC 🤘 travel into Pixie Hollow, they encounter a typical "edgy" Sue and a little surprise.

Agent Liu, I appreciate your timely arrival to this meeting, but I have concerns about your uniform.

Liu Siyuan, who had been in the bow most appropriate for addressing his new superior (A sapient Flower. He's truly seen it all), raised his head and lowered his arms. "This agent requests clarification," he said, a little stiffly.

The Queen Anne's Lace's tendrils wavered a little, as if unsure whether or not to rub at her blossoms. The uniform is black, Agent Liu, she stated after a moment, before deciding to simply steeple her fronds on the desk in front of her.

"This agent is wearing that colour," replied Liu Siyuan.

You are wearing Bleen, insisted the Queen Anne's Lace. A Sue colour. And here I thought pink was going to be the most undignified colour an agent would wear to a meeting Upstairs...

Liu Siyuan blinked a little. "This agent does not understand."

Bleen is a Sue colour. Black is the PPC uniform. You are supposed to wear the uniform colour Upstairs, not some eye-searing Sue colour.

Liu Siyuan resisted the urge to fidget. "This agent fears there may be some miscommunication at hand," he said, after a moment of parsing the words. "This agent is hearing both colours' names as the same through his translator."

There should be no translator at play, Agent Liu. I am communicating directly with your mind.

"This agent is still perceiving both colours' names as the same," protested Liu Siyuan.

The Queen Anne's Lace made a noise approximating a sigh, and flicked a frond. Two pieces of of paper hovered into the air in front of Liu Siyuan. With another flick of the frond, the hanzi 青布 and 青 appeared on the papers.

This, said the Queen Anne's Lace, waving the paper with 青布 on it, is the colour of the PPC uniform. And this, she waved the paper with 青 on it, is the Sue colour you are currently wearing.

Liu Siyuan reached into his qiankun bag and pulled out a piece of paper and a red pen, and scribbled both 黑 and 青山綠水 on it. "This is the colour that E Shen-buzhang is requesting," he said, pointing to 黑. "And this," he pointed to 青山綠水, "is what is normally understood when one hears the colour that was not requested."

Then there does appear to have been a misunderstanding. My apologies. The Queen Anne's Lace set down the papers. Please remember to wear the appropriate colour to the next meeting.

"With all due respect, E Shen-buzhang, the classification of 青 as a Sue colour presupposes that Western concepts of colour are universal," pitched in Liu Siyuan.

Please don't test me, Agent Liu, grumbled the Queen Anne's Lace.

"This agent apologises." Liu Siyuan bowed again. "What does E Shen-buzhang wish to discuss?"

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Notes:

I discussed it with Nesh and Zing at one point but presumably Bleen would be 青, But Worse, like how Bled is Purple, But Worse. Bleen is probably the colour of Suvian jade, for one. LSY might have some resistance to Bleen's mind-bending appearance, but it'll give him a headache eventually.

E Shen-buzhang (峨参部长) literally translates to Department Leader Queen Anne's Lace.

C'est est! La Linguage de Love!!!111

Hence "dress" being put into quotes. As for Daleks... black bunting? :'D

then your issues from 2007-sometime post-2013 have all gone missing. Perhaps they're trapped in null space. You should go check.

Nita Incog, EIC New Multiverse Monitor

togETHER wiV le pOwer de Glitter, nous avons takE vOer le multiverse!!!11!

((something something a Voltron of Sue Publications))

Yeah, I know that subgroups are inevitable in a big group -- such is the case in big fandoms I've been in. But, and let me butcher Gandalf here, one might form a PG group chat out of a desire to do good, but from that, they would end up wielding a power too great and terrible to imagine.

Plenty of things are discussed in private, or are best left to be discussed in private, sure. But creating a system where a prospective newbie must impress a ~council of PGs~ who then deliberate in their secret group chat whether or not to give said newbie the opportunity to apply for Permission is incredibly vulnerable to toxicity. Like the Ring itself, the ability to be invisible turns into, ironically, a lack of transparency regarding a process that affects the entirety of the community. It might begin with good intentions, but we're all human and therefore fallible, therefore corruptible. You could end up with newbies trying to curry favour with PGs instead of connecting with non-PG Boarders, or a big Drama about how newbie A was invited to apply for Permission within a couple months but newbie B had to wait a year. Or worse, jilted newbies start trying to incur a(nother?) schism with some crazy conspiracy theory of the PGs being evil puppetmasters of the rest of the PPC.

Believe me, that last one is inevitable. I've run application-based fanzines with invites and there were definitely subgroups complaining that some evil cabal of Yuri on Ice fanwriters were controlling all the zines and only inviting their friends. You can point to the merit of those writers' works all you want, some people are still going to believe there's some conspiracy out to get them instead of improving on their writing, simply because that would make the rejection go down easier. And you need only one malcontent to mess the whole thing up for everyone.

I know those three scenarios I brought up have also happened in the current system, but at least the current roadmap to Permission is transparent and doesn't rely on a subgroup to initiate the process. While the Permission success rate would probably increase on an invite-based system, it still moves the potential for wank from the application results up earlier to even being able to apply for Permission. That, to me, would make becoming a PPC writer even more intimidating for prospective newbies. I mean, I've personally told you that I found you intimidating for a good portion of my PPC career (if it can be considered that); if 2008 me found out she had to impress a ~council of PGs~ to apply for the Holy Permission, she'd probably freak out worse and run for the hills.

Anyway, tl;dr: not a fan of relegating the burden of initiating Permission on PGs, because of way too much experience in various subgroups in other parts of the Internet, including ones that required applications. Still think it's high time Permission prompts got streamlined. Maybe extend the amount of time needed before a newbie applies?

(ETA: clarified the process used for the fanzines. We had guest writers and application-based writers. There were accusations of cronyism for both, but the guest writer invites were especially scrutinised. We initiated a blind reading process for the applications and still got accusations that we only accepted our friends.)

And here's a full list.

... it's me, Nesh, Zing, Ix, and now Storme. I also assume Delta is around on the Discord, but don't remember seeing her recently. Kaitlyn is officially 'here' as long as I am, but not active.

(I may well have lost track, so anyone else still around feel free to sing out!)

hS

I'm actually rethinking my position. I thought there were more active PGs, but I just found out three people I thought were PGs aren't. Huh.

If there aren't enough PGs, I don't think the plan will work. I mean, first off, it'll overwork the small amount of PGs to constantly (or somewhat constantly) see how newbies without Permission are doing in the community, and that's stressful. Two, it does kinda feel like inviting someone into a club rather than not, if that makes any sense.

I'm on the fence now. I don't think it'll work. It'll stress out current PGs and might make some leave. It'll seem uninviting to new members of the PPC community. And I don't think that's good.

-kA

Storme and hS I feel covered a lot of my issues here, but this definitely creates a scenario of newbies just kind of hovering around nervously and even more overfocusing on impressing the PGs, since they don't have a clear roadmap for how to go about getting Permission anymore. I think this would actually make the problem worse. And it would definitely have some clique issues.

It's kind of random when you'll get a response on anything you're doing. Sometimes there are a ton of people who are super interested in what you're doing and sometimes there isn't. It's not even necessarily anything you do, it's often a product of who's around at that exact moment. I've definitely had this happen to me as well.

(And I've been burnt out to hell so I haven't been interacting with people anywhere so much. Sorry everyone!)

Just "black is the uniform". If you think about it, having anything mandated as dress uniform on top of the color (which is already the base one) makes no sense, since agents can be literally any sentient being. Plenty of which are pretty much incompatible with humanoid clothing - how do you get a Dalek in a suit?

"Return"? We never went away! We've been out here creating quality journalism since Day One!

On and off.

All right, a few missions got in the way. And that whole thing with enormous germs invading HQ, which I still think is too ridiculous to be true.

Breeze, you literally watched it happen.

Could've been a mass hallucination. Hey, we haven't run a mass hallucination story in a while! Did you hear Agent Suicide was seen running naked through the halls outside the DBS?

Um... no?

Me neither! But I bet if we ask around we'll find someone who did. To the Respectablejournalismmobile!

~Starwind Rohana

- Estelnar Celebduin (editors, REAL Multiverse Monitor)

And you and Nesh didn’t always get along? Huh. I really don’t know everyone’s histories here.

But yeah, I assume you would lose PG or Permissioned status on being banned. Right?

(Side note: SRPA’s, (whom I have no affiliation with) ban is over in like two weeks. )

I could just... not get on with them. That's happened. Heck, at one point I didn't get on with Nesh (a very long time ago).

To answer your question, a permanent ban from the community would obviously revoke PG status. I suspect a temporary ban would too, but... it's never come up, and I hope it never does.

hS

Could you possibly demote a toxic PGs? I mean, is that a thing? Just kinda wondering, not really being serious.

—Ls, who hopes hasn’t bit off more than he can chew by accidentally unleashing a huge debate on Permission. Of course, igniting huge debates is kinda what he does. Though really, it wasn’t just him. Also, Ls is neither a Discord user nor a Permission Giver, and thus is not the most sure of why he’s all that concerned.

(And Bookworm? I noticed a couple typos. ( “ad” and “i”.))