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I'll cast votes in support of both Vixenmage and Makari. :)

First of all, I understand exactly what you mean about responses, and I've also mentioned more and better reviews as something we can all improve on around here (with a few exceptions, such as you, who already give good reviews to just about everyone, which makes you awesome). See "More Ideas" above.

As for the beta-reading, my memory is that your last request was for four missions, and that freaked me out. I didn't want to volunteer for that many at once, especially on Google Docs, because I know I would feel overwhelmed and never get through them. I am notoriously slow even doing just one. That said, I will offer to take one of them, but I ask that you e-mail it to me as a .DOC file. Google Docs is great for collaboration, but I really don't like it much for editing.

And finally, you're not whining. Certain other parties dropped the ball when they forgot other people write Bad Slash missions, too, and I'd say you're justified in being upset at that.

~Neshomeh

Just kidding. Welcome, and would you like a chocolate bar?

And the PPC tends to err on the side of caution.

Have a chocolate bar?

I realise I haven't answered your question correctly. When did I find out Mary-Sues sucked? Hmm.

I never thought much of it, until I began reading Mary-Sue parodies, which, needless to say, were hilarious. Mary-Sues are not hard creatures to make fun of. That theme eventually led me to the PPC, and OFUM, and since I admired the PPC writers, I soon began to adopt their ways. (Although I still don't understand why it's such a godawful sin to post an A/N).

If you were ever a horrible writer at one point or a Suethor (or both), at what point did you realize you screwed up?

I am not a good writer: was not, am not, probably will not be for a while, and I admit it. Harsh truth is, now that Real Life is beginning to hit harder than ever, I'll probably spend next to nil time practicing, too.

But I still have approximately twenty different parts of storylines and characters knocking around in my head, trying to get out.

I really enjoyed your missions, and it'll be a shame to see you leave, but if this is what you want to do, then I understand.

Goodbye and good luck, may your future endeavors be fruitful.

It is called Muphry's Law.

From When gods wish to punish us by Firenze.sun

I swear this is a direct quote--the opening paragraph of the story.

"One chance, that was all he asked for. One chance to know how it would be like to feel that he love him. Be able to feel at least one those lips against his and taste that mouth. And in case that he had the luck to be in that tiny chance of opportunities in which his feelings were reciprocated, he would like to know. Every night before that sleep took him in its arms, he felt in his heart that terrible and distressing anguish of wishing and needing something he knew impossible."


From "Who I Was, Who I Am" by Jiva-Tiva-lover
"She looked over at the motorcycle that was in front of the coffee shop. She stared at it. Oh man how she loved motorcycle, she walked over to it and was in awe."

In which the author demonstrates why you should always check your pronouns.:
"She died in child birth. Which is what they think led my father to drugs. I lived with her for six months before child services stepped in and took me away from him."

From "Pea Souper of the Damned"
Replacing the used bullets in the barrel and slipping it in his pocket, Watson kept one hand upon it while glancing uneasily around him.

Welcome, Newbie! Here, have some chocolate, and enjoy your stay!

And also for Makari and VM. But mostly pie.

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Mmmmm, pie. *drools*

I was planning out a character for an RPG my friend was going to run. The short description is that it had obscenely high stats and powerful gear due to the min-maxing I was so fond of, when I realized that it would be obscenely boring to play with this character. I made the jump to mary-sues fairly quickly after that.. The long version is that in 3.5 ed. D&D, a half-demon mind-flayer vampire sorcerer with a base charisma of 18 can deal 400 points of unsavable damage instantly, then teleport away, also instantly. My min-maxing days are far behind me, thankfully.

If this is what I think it was, dude's on my timezone, so it would have been something approaching 2 in the morning? Not to mention I think he hangs around more for the company than the writing. :/ I'm not trying to make excuses, really, but hoping it wasn't just a tired braindead lurker that sparked this.

I'd thank you for the fish, but I'm not sure you gave us any.
I will, like at least half the other people here, jump in to say your set of spinoffs really has been one of my favorites. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's the inspiration for the Agents in the back of my head who are decidedly not Assassins.
If you're done, you're done, and I wish you the best, and hope to see you around again someday. Cheers.

I'm in.
The longer deadline is definitely appreciated. :D

Criticize grammar and you're bound to make mistakes yourself!

The one I'm working on isn't focused on Sues... unless cities can be Sues.

Some fics can survive Mary Sue because the Sue is weak and/or the fic is particularly well-written. They would be better if the character weren't a Sue, but are still goodfic even with her in them.

Check out the "Historical Sues" wiki page for canon examples.

Hey, I've been reading PPC missions for a while, and I agree with you. I tend to enjoy bad slash missions the most myself, though other types can be hilarious in the right circumstances. Remember the sandwich man?

Going back to the nominations, checking with Neshomeh tells me that the next step was voting, not letting the nominations fall off the edge of the earth, which results in this thread.

Voting is for the nominees Makari and VM, because Ansela did not accept the nomination and Sedri is already a PG unless she wants to be voted for again.

Additionally, both can be elected.

Avaunt, let loose the dogs of something, and all that.

You seriously think people don't think about Bad Slash? Umm... Wow. No, we do. It was probably the second department I was exposed to, and DBS missions were some of the first ones I read. There was a problem with the wiki where it was difficult to get to your missions for a while, though, and I had to track them down--I think that might've been part of the problem with people's lack of knowledge about DBS.

Notice how old most of the DMS missions are, compared to the more general Floaters missions? When I went through categorizing stuff, I realized the PPC has been moving away from outright Sue-killing for a while, so that at least three-quarters of new missions don't emphasize killing the Sue and about a third don't involve killing a Sue at all. Newer missions tend to focus on the odd-coupleness of the agents, the insanity of the fic, and the odd situations they get themselves into.

Yes, TOS needs a beta compared to what we're turning out now. But remember that Shakespeare's plots would be considered cliched and unoriginal today... because he started those ideas. TOS is something you read because it's what started everything. It's part of PPC history.

It's not just Bad Slash and OOCness that needs to be fixed. DOGA, for example, may have to deal with Sues a lot; but there are fics where the geographical aberration is the only actual issue. And what if the writer royally messes up the time scale, so that the canon forces dead characters to live on as canon zombies, and forty-six-year-olds to have forty-eight-year-old sons? Then there's the DTE and the Technical Errors in many fics: What if the problem isn't that there's a Sue, but that the canon's name has been made possessive without an S so many times that there are now two of him? Or that a consistent misspelling has created a ypur-like beast that's rampaging across the canon? I mean... wow... there are SO many things you can mess up about a fic without any Sues at all.

Please, no bootlicking.

Please. Nobody here wants worshipping admirers that I know of-- respectful disagreements are good, and honest (even brutal!) criticism is good, and bootlicking is... bad.

(As someone who is generally rather non-confrontational, I sympathise. People leaving a community is never a happy thing.)