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"Can't you let me have just a little bit of peril?" (nm) by
on 2010-08-29 21:59:00 UTC
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I'm on this . . . by
on 2010-08-29 21:57:00 UTC
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. . . like MsScribe on drama. There's a couple of notorious slashfics I've had my eye on for ages, and now would seem to be the perfect time to take 'em down.
Anyway, I doubt the Marquis de Sod would have given Suicide and Diocletian their weapons back right away, so a Bad Slash mission is entirely appropriate. :D
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Well, I've missed your missions... by
on 2010-08-29 21:49:00 UTC
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I was unaware that people don't know what the DBS is. It was pretty much the second department I heard about when I was still a newbie, the first being Floaters.
I was actually criticized once for not making an execution graphic enough, so I get where you're coming from there. Still, though, I'm sorry to see you leave.
Have a good one.
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Welcome. Even if you do decide to leave, you still get one! by
on 2010-08-29 21:23:00 UTC
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Hello! Have a seventeen foot long, multicolored, wool, knit, scarf (curly wig not included), and a bag of jelly babies.
Please use themIRresponsibly!
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I define Sues the second way, so no Sues/Stus in goodfic (nm) by
on 2010-08-29 21:20:00 UTC
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Challenge by
on 2010-08-29 21:09:00 UTC
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I know I'm still rather new, but I want to share how I have been feeling lately. The last several times that I have posted a story, I have considered myself extremely lucky to get two responses. It has been really discouraging, honestly. I have four stories that I still haven't posted, and I've been rather reluctant to post them. I'd rather have people ripping them to shreds, (so I can at least improve) than having them totally ignored. Whether it is true or not, I get to thinking that the reason they get no comments is that they don't meet PPC standards and no one wants to say so.
I have nine completed stories for Kelok and Unger, which number two interludes and seven missions. Six of those seven missions are bad slash. There are bad slash missions being written. I don't think I am the only one with a recent bad slash mission.
I have posted general board requests for Betas. I do very much appreciate the anonymous content comments I received, but I am sure that I had more than a couple of grammar errors, since grammar is my greatest challenge.
Please consider this as a second request for a serious grammar Beta. I know I need one.
Anyway, the probable whining is over, now. You can all go back to regularly scheduled programming.
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Yay! by
on 2010-08-29 20:47:00 UTC
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That's certainly true for Sues and much of the Bad Slash I have glancingly encountered, and Aragorn and Legolas are common victims of bad action, but there's also a lot of attention shown to book-only characters such as Glorfindel, Erestor and the twins. Still, I think a basic knowledge of who they are would work, since much of the time the stories don't follow the main plot.
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Absolutely loved your stuff by
on 2010-08-29 20:30:00 UTC
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Some of the funniest missions I've ever read. Especially the ones with Oscar. Those were hilarious.
So, wherever the wind takes you, let the pestilence of Nurgle fall on you! Wait, no... that's not right... umm...
So long!
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Reading Tolkein is a Good use of Time. by
on 2010-08-29 19:58:00 UTC
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I found my spawn's copy of 'The Hobbit' easily and will read it this week. Then I'll search for the other books.I might also take the time to watch the movies, since my understanding is a lot of LoTR badfic is based on movie canon. Possibly because the writers lack the reading comprehension for the books.
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Anyone wanna help me with a Nine Inch Nails songfic? by
on 2010-08-29 19:50:00 UTC
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I already have a non-killing Bad Slash exorcism mission in progress, but it's a Nine Inch Nails songfic which mutilates the song it uses, and my only pair of exorcists have both been established as knowing very little about and/or actively hating Nine Inch Nails. So, if anyone's got any Harry Potter Bad Slashers who would be able to point out the horrific mangling of NIN lyrics, I'd appreciate being able to borrow them. Pads was actually helping me with it ages ago, but she dropped out even before she stopped coming on the board and I haven't touched it since. I'll blow the dust off it for the challenge.
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Re: It's been a while by
on 2010-08-29 19:49:00 UTC
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For the most part, just LotR and the Hobbit would probably do the trick for these ones, though obviously more canon is more better and any time reading Tolkien is time well spent in my opinion, so I'm biased. :P
Yeah, I went looking for suitable Discworld fics and found one involving Vetinari and some werewolves, but for the most part it was just... rather strange.
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I find that by
on 2010-08-29 19:37:00 UTC
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a lot of these ideas 'how to do a mission without killing a Sue?' are big ideas, while such missions can easily be found in goodfic. And wouldn't we all much rather read goodfic than badfic.
For instance, an author and/or their beta reader might have overlooked a typo, or a Briticism, or plain typing in the wrong character's name. Examples from my own missions:
Mission #8: American character is holding a brollie. Agents go in to give him an umbrella.
Mission #11: Agents go into the story to remove a canon character that accidentally ended up in the fic.
Mission #14: Agents give cc a manicure because author had given him callus on his hands.
Mission #20: Agents talk an original character out of out of character behaviour. (The fic actually featured a massive Sue, but also spanned 50 chapter and I didn't want that epic a mission)
Mission #22: Agents need to sober up a character who canonically doesn't drink alcohol.
Mission #27: Agents go into story because cc is holding on to a gun the wrong way round.
Mission #32: Agents go into story to present a character with the regulations on saluting in doors.
If anyone cares to read these missions: all can be found on my lj using the tag 'minimission'.
And not on my lj yet, but most definitely not about killing: Agents talk character out of killing himself
Cassie, have I met the requirements of your challange or should I write something new?
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It's been a while by
on 2010-08-29 19:18:00 UTC
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since I've read the books or watched the movies, and I've never read anything beyond The Hobbit and LoTR. Were I to be dealing with badfics from LoTR fandom I'd need to do a fair bit of reading so as to be up on the canon. Or be partnered with a writer who is.
Come to think of it I don't think I've done either since the last movie was in theaters and we went there as a family.
I think I will look through the stack o books I'm storing for my spawn to find her copies of LoTR and The Hobbit. They're well worth rereading and once I've done that I can seek out the other books at the library. I also need to reread them if I'm going to write a fanfic I have an idea for.
Lately I've been reading mostly Discworld, which doesn't lend itself quite so well to Epic Adventure stories.
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Naturally, I'm in. by
on 2010-08-29 19:15:00 UTC
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I've got an awful FMA x HP crossover sitting around that will do nicely. I hope this doesn't mean I can't finish the DMS mission I'm in the middle of first, though. >.>
~Neshomeh, who can totally finish two missions in two months. Probably.
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Me, too. by
on 2010-08-29 19:05:00 UTC
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I've proposed some ideas for change in the thread above. It would have been nice if someone who wanted to see such change had done this beforehand, though. Projects need leaders.
I for one was very sorry to see you go on hiatus, Pads, and I was patiently anticipating you and Trojie making a come-back when your lives got sorted out, completely unaware until recently that the PPC itself had anything to do with it. If I haven't been vocal enough about that, I apologize, but I didn't know you wanted to hear it.
I'm glad you've said guilt isn't required, because I can't accept that responsibility. As far as I'm aware, we've only known that you and Trojie wanted to see changes for the last month or two. That's a rather short period of time for a large group with disparate, constantly-fluctuating membership to completely overhaul its outlook, and I wonder if you're being entirely fair to have expected it of us without offering specific suggestions for things to change, or offering to help make those changes, or even being around to set an example. Many of the people who joined in the last year had absolutely no reason to know why you stopped writing or to expect that you would start again. But for one thread a while back, you were gone. How could they know? I also feel like you're ignoring those of us who DO write other types of stories, without killing. Maybe we're not as prolific as you and Trojie were, but we do exist, despite the lack of anyone talking about it. And remember, not everyone wants to read slash, good or bad.
I hope you'll reconsider your decision with the above in mind. However, if retiring is something you really need to do for yourself, then I respect that. Though I'll be sad to see you go, I won't beg you to stay. I wish you only well.
~Neshomeh
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So long and thanks for all the fics by
on 2010-08-29 19:01:00 UTC
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I'm saddened to see you leaving. Not that I really had a chance to know you what with only recently having discovered the place.
The PPC is a richer place for your having been part of it, and I am sad that it is your leaving that has prompted discussion of people writing more non killing missions.
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About my next mission... by
on 2010-08-29 19:01:00 UTC
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I'm already writing a mission that involves the termination of an Author-Wraith before the infected canon rapes what was supposed to be his girlfriend (And isn't in the badfic, that smashes all the canon pairings). Still counts as "Sue killing"?
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As we speak... by
on 2010-08-29 18:55:00 UTC
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It is already being done, and I don't just mean with Xericka and Gremlin (although I am going to be doing a lot more with them in the future.) I'm currently writing a Bad Parody exorcism with Danny and Laura. It should be ready for beta-reading soon.
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Hmm... by
on 2010-08-29 18:52:00 UTC
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I'm really only in the LotR fandom, so if that's not one of yours, it is a lot of catch-up. Give me some time, though, and I'll see what I can find in other canons I know.
My potential agents are pretty keen on it too - Jackson wasn't too keen on killing things :P I'm now thinking of making them Floaters rather than Assasins, but if we can find enough crappy action/adventure, it could be its very own department...
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Good Idea by
on 2010-08-29 18:40:00 UTC
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Could you provide suggestions of some suitable badfics for this type of mission? Preferably in a continuum where it won't take much work to read (or watch) the source material as most of what I've been reading lately is unlikely to have this type of badfic based on it.
Modren, my potential Agent, would be very suitable for this sort of thing.
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I'm not sure by
on 2010-08-29 18:35:00 UTC
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if I'm going to actually become an active PPCer, as in seeking Permission, but if I do I promise my initial mission will not involve Sue Slaying. In fact the one character I have in mind as a potential agent would flat out refuse to go on an assassination mission.
I think having at least one active agent who refuses to kill, or even go on killing missions, would go a long way in showing that the PPC is not just about the slaying of sues.
He's a Healer, possibly a bit on the overpowered side, that keeps wanting to be inserted into my stories. I thought sending him on some PPC missions would help take him down a peg or two :D
On that thought I think I'll check when I posted my introduction and see if it's been a month or not yet.
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It was medicinal WoW. by
on 2010-08-29 18:33:00 UTC
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I got a lot of wisdom teeth yanked and I couldn't use the painkiller because it made me sick, so I played WoW instead and it was a good sedative. So when I went to college and the pain went away and I no longer had time for WoW, I played until my subscription ran out and then I just quit WoW.
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More ideas. by
on 2010-08-29 18:24:00 UTC
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If we're going to make a change, it has to start with what people see when they join up. That means the Wiki and the Links. The latter is easy--maybe we use a link to the Complete List of PPC Fiction, which is by department, rather than the List of Killed Badfic, which is by canon. Maybe we include Bad Slash, DOGA, and any other particularly influential departments specifically as recommended reading.
The Wiki, however, will take more than the efforts of just one or two people. Personally, I feel this is something someone who wants to see a specific change happen ought to take charge of, as they would know best what should be done and where, but there are a couple of things I can think of:
1) Let's put the Complete List of PPC Fiction in true alphabetical order, shall we? The DMS is not at the top of that order. In fact, that's so bloody easy I'll go do it as soon as I'm done here.
2) The FAQs. Particularly the FAQ for Other People, if Araeph doesn't object; it is particularly heavy on Sue-centricism. Maybe she herself wouldn't mind re-writing it with other approaches to PPCing in mind, or maybe we'll do it in a separate thread as a group later on.
Finally, one thing that no one else has mentioned, but that I feel is very important, is reviewing. Some of you are very good about it, but you are few and far between. I don't even count myself among you, although I have been trying. How, exactly, do people know their work (DBS, DMS, or otherwise) is appreciated if we don't review it--with, mind you, the in-depth, constructive kind we all expect to get? Particularly in cases of those who use journals (or the Wiki, as I do), there is really no excuse for not doing this. The option is there; it doesn't go away just because the plugging thread falls of the Board or you have to go do something else for a while. So don't forget, and don't leave it at "Good mission!" or "I liked it!" If compliments can be insulting, that kind are. I, at least, expect more of this community. At minimum, have the courtesy to say WHY you liked it, or WHAT in particular made it good. Got it?
Okay.
~Neshomeh + $0.02