Just be careful to not be in his line of fire, but I'm sure you're aware of that. XD
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There is a bit too much similarity to be coincidence. by
on 2010-07-24 18:21:00 UTC
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If we're generous, I guess we could write it off as, "Snarky minds think alike."
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What about leaving reviews? by
on 2010-07-24 18:07:00 UTC
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If the writer doesn't like Mary Sues, then it's not too much of a stretch to think that they might be responsive to the idea of improving their own writing--including making it unique rather than derivative, and checking spelling and grammar more carefully.
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Re: a subsidiary question for all by
on 2010-07-24 17:57:00 UTC
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I am currently working my way through all of the Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Sherlock Holmes. I've finished A Study in Scarlet, The Sign of Four, and I've started The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Before this I read the Ukiah Oregon series by Wen Spencer. These books are completely awesome! Alien Taste, Tainted Trail, Bitter Waters, and Dog Warrior.
I've been on a series kick this year. I read the entire Warrior cats series by Erin Hunter this last winter, which amounted to about thirty books. I started the Percy Jackson series, but I haven't been able to finish due to a slight monetary disagreement with the library (read I owe them high fines for late books and one damaged baby book).
I have started several books this year without finishing them, which is odd for me. I've started The Silmarillion, and a re-read of The Three Musketeers. I've also listened to several chapters of various Mark Twain novels: Roughing It, The Innocents Abroad, and Life on the Mississippi. My husband is on a quest to listen (he prefers audiobooks) to every Mark Twain book ever written. These are available with a very good reader from Librivox
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Welcome, new friend! by
on 2010-07-24 17:44:00 UTC
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I am curious to know, what pair of books are you referring to?
Anyway, have a mating pair of Dodos, Passenger Pigeons and Moas!
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First plover! (nm) by
on 2010-07-24 17:08:00 UTC
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There are some concerns... by
on 2010-07-24 17:07:00 UTC
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There are an uncomfortable number of similarities.
Something else that worries me is the number of spelling errors and misused words. This is similar enough that anyone that has read a PPC story is going to think of the PPC when reading this, and she has some rather obvious problems with SPAG. Basically, if she is going to imitate us that closely, then her standards shouldn't reflect poorly on us. (Kind of pretentious sounding, I realize, but it's still my opinion.)
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The Disclaimer idea seems good... (nm) by
on 2010-07-24 17:01:00 UTC
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I don't like it. by
on 2010-07-24 16:37:00 UTC
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It's obvious she did steal, whether on purpose or not, and I think we have the right to ask her to change some things, like the neuralizors and CADs -- especially the CADs, which you couldn't make up independently. Charge lists make too much sense to complain about.
I think you should either ask her to change and/or tell her she has to put a disclaimer that she is not associated with the PPC.
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Reading by
on 2010-07-24 16:33:00 UTC
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I don't read quite as voraciously now as I did when I was younger, but I've always got something going on. Currently I've found myself out of my usual comfort zone of fantasy and sci-fi, but it's been nice here, too.
I've just started The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, which, as you may know, has recently been turned into a movie. I haven't gotten far enough to say much about it, but I can tell you the titular girl looks to be a really awesome character. She's got the whole fascinatingly rough and antisocial exterior covering something awful that happened to her, but she doesn't have the angst that so often goes with that. Nothing about her says "poor me;" mainly it says "bugger off, I'm working here." Total competence at what she does, though not always in ways her boss approves of (or wants to know about, in fact).
And then of course there's the mystery, which has only begun to be introduced. All the main players have yet to hook up, so I'm sure when that happens it'll really take off.
The last thing I read is The Source by James Michener. I recommend this if you want a really, really long, dense read that will keep you engaged every step of the way. The initial setting is an archaeological dig at the fictional Tell Makor in Israel, where we're introduced to the characters that provide a framing story to everything else that goes on. After the key finds of the dig are uncovered, the author takes us back in time to the protohumans that first lived on the Tell, and gradually brings us back up to the present (well, the `40s or `50s), visiting various points in history along the way. It's a lot about the development of Judaism and some about the other religions that sprang from the same area, Christianity and Islam, but with a historical focus. Very interesting if you're curious about religion or history at all, academically or otherwise.
Before that, I read the Death Gate Cycle by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman. If you liked the Dragonlance series at all, you'll love this. I am not Dragonlance's biggest fan, but I had such a good time with this series that I almost started over from the beginning when I was done. I still plan on reading it again. Between four (well, five) separate worlds, where the usual fantasy races have each developed in a distinct manner, you've got enough intrigue, magic, action, and drama to power a large city. ... Or seven really good books, as it happens. And as your tour guide, you have Haplo and his dog with guest appearances by Alfred, the most hapless individual you will ever meet. And I'm going to stop talking now, because there's just so much I could go on about, and we'd be here all day. Long story short: great fantasy; not a Tolkien knock-off; you'll enjoy it. Go read!
~Neshomeh
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Hello there! by
on 2010-07-24 16:25:00 UTC
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Welcome to the PPC! Have some chocolate, and enjoy your stay!
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Re: Any Avatar Fans? by
on 2010-07-24 15:46:00 UTC
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Only seventy years, and Aang is already dead? :/ We've already had several people living for over a hundred years with no problems, so why did Aang kick the bucket so early? Did someone murder him or something? And if so, how did they manage to bump off the Avatar?
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slasherchicsxx0930xxxx was mine and Kitsune106's ... by
on 2010-07-24 14:07:00 UTC
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... though he didn't participate this year.
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Currently... by
on 2010-07-24 12:39:00 UTC
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I'm not actually in the middle of reading anything, but I'm determined to make my way through my PTerry *holy horns* collection again in my upcoming hiatus from the internet (starting tomorrow through to Thursday).
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Thirding all three. :P (nm) by
on 2010-07-24 12:35:00 UTC
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Maybe she didn't... by
on 2010-07-24 12:33:00 UTC
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steal it on purpose, but there are far too many similarities for my comfort... a building "not in any canon", walking trees, a fully stocked armoury, rules about using canon-appropriate weaponry, no contact with the Canons unless necessary, neuralyzers, charges, ending on "being annoying", devices that sound suspiciously like CADs... and that's just from the quotes.
Maybe they can be left alone for now, but if things take any sort of serious downhill turn/they're associated with us/both, I think we might really have to contact them and ask them to knock it off. It reads more like someone's trying to do an unofficial spinoff without having to go through the process of getting Permission - not that I'm saying they are, mind. That's just the sort of impression it gives me.
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Hail and well met! by
on 2010-07-24 12:20:00 UTC
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And other such phrases of welcome and inclusion. Good to have you here, and I hope you'll have fun. What fandoms are you into?
Ad an official Welcome Gift, I present you with a bag of pebbles and a Random Shiny Object. Use them well in the defence of Canon.
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To be fair... by
on 2010-07-24 12:16:00 UTC
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at one time somebody claimed giving links was their official newbie gift and got rather upset when others did it, which may have put a good few people off trying. But point taken, and I'm hopeful we'll see other people handing them out in future.
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You never know... by
on 2010-07-24 12:13:00 UTC
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Sometimes being Crazy Prepared helps! And always having something handy to smack the Sue/spambot/what-have-you is generally a good idea.
Cyber coffee... mmm, can we have cyber hot chocolate too? :D
(Yeah, the only crazy internet people I've met, we all agreed to it first and met somewhere far, far away. XD)
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This bandwagon's getting mighty full by
on 2010-07-24 11:36:00 UTC
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Also shamelessly-stealing Ansela's template-thingy.
Name: Elcalion, Cam
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Nationality: Australian
Fandoms: LoTR, Star Wars, Discworld, Star Trek reboot, Supernatural, X-Men, Harry Potter, Narnia,
Hobbies: Playing music (Violin, viola, mandolin, clarinet), reading (many, many books), Sims 2, Oblivion, almost any Star Wars game, cooking, brewing beer, volleyball, rugby, cycling, languages (to varying degrees, French, German, Czech, Latin, Sindarin, Quenya, Adunaic)
Likes: Historical fics (e.g. plausible fill-in-the-gaps-of-history such as Second Age LoTR fics), well-written AUs, tea (iced and otherwise), Pilsener beer, correcting others' spelling and grammar, irony, tango
Dislikes: Celery, liquorice, capsicum (bell peppers to you Yankees), slash in basically all its forms, the word "misspell" which I always worry about getting wrong,
Other: elcalion on LJ, also strangler-fig (PPC only stuff)
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It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a...Sue slaying society? by
on 2010-07-24 11:25:00 UTC
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Ironically, just after Trojie's post about how we're more than a Sue slaying society, I come bearing a link! It is a link with some startling similarities to the PPC. The major differences are: they only kill Sues, and they bring realistic animal companions along to fight the Cute Animal friends we all know and
loathelove. ("There was nothing quite like being gored form behind by a sparkly pink unicorn, and Alex had the scars to prove it.")
Link.
Quotes:
- "Alice worked for an organization called the Sue Slayers United. They trained people to hunt and kill Mary Sues from different fandom's. The SSU was technically in its own 'world' not in any specific canon, which meant there was no limit to what you would see around her. People who have been working here long enough no longer gave a second glance at the walking trees or screams that can from the lower parts of the building any more."
- "She had dark bushy hair and a square jaw, and as Alex had discovered, a strong coffee addiction. She was dressed more casually than Alex is a purple buttoned-up shirt with the sleeves rolled back and plain black pants and sneakers."
- "Raven steered Alice toward the armoury. It was its own wing at the SSU headquarters, full of many weapons. She found her way towards the Pirate section.
'Take your pick,' Raven told her. 'Usually they're pretty good about weapons, as long as the weapon doesn't defy the laws of the universe you're allowed to have it.'"
- "'It's not too important seeing as how we're just supposed to pop in and out. We're not even supposed to talk to the Cannon characters if we can avoid it.'"
-"'It's a neuralizor,' he told her after she stared at it dumbly for a few seconds.
'A what?' she replied feeling like a dumbass.
'Those mind-wipe things from Men in Black?'"
-"'You are charged with the following!' Alex announced cheerfully. "Talking in chat speak, misspelling said chat speak (oh girl, that is just sad), comparing your hair to a muddy waterfall, contradicting yourself by using the world laughter and sorrow in the same breathe to describe your voice, dressing like a whore without getting ridiculed by canon characters…'
'And for just being really f***ing annoying,' Alice added as she walked up behind Alex."
-"'I only just remembered these; we haven't really needed them so far, have we? How do we read these things anyway? I was told it was easy but it's hard to make sense of them.'
'Just point and click love, then it'll beep a few times and give us a reading on if it's a Sue, a canon character, or a healthy OC.'"
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Sounds familiar, no?
I reviewed the fic, asking if the author knew about the PPC. She said she did, but she "didn't steal the idea on purpose," and "If there's anything too similar that you want me to change let me know." I can believe that she didn't steal the idea...after all, it seems to me that anyone spending a lot of time in fandom would want to kill Sues! There are a lot of other similarities, though, as you can see from the quotes above. She may very well have, er, lovingly borrowed from us. Still, I'm inclined to leave the Sue Slayers United alone to do its noble work. What do you think?
~Araeph