Lot of fresh meat new people lately.
Welcome to the Board, we hope you'll find it an educational and beneficial experience.
Doubtful people will throw links at you soon, so I'll just give you a handy-dandy fire-proof leash for your brain, just in case it tries to go for walkies without you.
That happens around here.
Mind if I ask what sort of fandoms you usually favor?
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More new faces? by
on 2010-03-10 20:08:00 UTC
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Welcome. Here's a tall ship. by
on 2010-03-10 20:05:00 UTC
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He is sentient. Yes, you got a male.
Fair winds!
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Hey, im new. what now by
on 2010-03-10 19:39:00 UTC
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Whats up.
I have no clue what to say here. I love to read and fanfic that twists everything into contorted knots pisses me off. i would love to help, but need to go through you people first, so I hear. I write some of my own stuff/fanfic, and people say it is decent. hope ya'll are well.
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Re: (Late) Welcome! by
on 2010-03-10 16:10:00 UTC
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No problem! It is never too late for venomous arthopods!
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(Late) Welcome! by
on 2010-03-10 16:05:00 UTC
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Have a venomous arthropod! Sorry for the late response...My hard drive committed suicide this week (assisted by me).
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(Late) Welcome! by
on 2010-03-10 15:59:00 UTC
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Have a venomous arthropod! Sorry for the late welcome; my hard drive done died on me.
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Re: Hello by
on 2010-03-10 15:58:00 UTC
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Thanks. Already got the links, but doubles are always good, just in case something happens to the first bag.
I was kind of surprised to see a lack of Chris-chan under Legendary Badfic. I mean, I lived through Rose Potter, but his stuff? I shudder to think about it.
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Badfic Reports by
on 2010-03-10 01:45:00 UTC
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Oh, Hades! It BURNS!
IT BURNS
So, for some reason, my sanity deserted me and I decided to look for some fluff on the Robin Hood BBC fanfiction category... Pffff. Serves me right for looking for anything good/even-slightly-resembles fluffy outside of anything published by Baen. It's horrendous--Guy of Gisbourne * Spoilers * is using poor Allan his boytoyexcuse for a moment while I hurl, poisons the Sheriff of Nottingham(strangely, I think that's in his favor), and steals Maid Marian away (from the legend's OTP...)... *end spoilers*
You know what, I'm just going to go find my horrendously abused paperback copy of the tale and read that. Serves me right for wanting to find a good Robin Hood story... yeesh.
To combat such a horrible atrocityit's almost 30,000 words long! *whimpers*, I went trawling through the Dr. Horrible Archive. *sighs in happiness* So far so good, and no...Never mind. This one is great: ...Murder by Publicity! Oh Captain Hammer, you got screwed.
logging off b/c my parents are looking at me like they're measuring me for a straight jacket
-Honu_Wahine, hysterically giggling authoress
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Hello by
on 2010-03-10 00:24:00 UTC
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I comes bearing links. *drags out Big Bag O' Links and digs through it*
First off is the link to the Wiki, a veritable fount of information for a newbie to read through. Especially helpful for you if you want to write missions would be the page on Permission (note the capital P).
I would advise against reading any Legendary Badfic, unless you are of strong mind and stomach. Even the summaries have been known to give those of weaker constitution nightmares.
For your reading pleasure, not knowing what you have already managed to find, I have several links for you. The Original Series (not to be confused with Star Trek) is a good place to start, as the PPC did many aeons ago.What do you mean I'm exaggerating?The Department of Geographical Aberrations is another interesting place to visit, if you have the time and inclination. Also by hS is the Tangled Webs site, which contains backstory for the PPC as an organisation. If you would rather visit the Floaters, then July's site is the place you need to be. And last, but most definitely not least, Response Centre 45 is where Trojie and Pads' missions are archived.
Hope you enjoy your stay here. Please deposit your sanity into the container offered to you by another Boarder; you won't be needing it here.
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Re: how do I hide aboard a sailing ship? by
on 2010-03-09 21:22:00 UTC
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The Merry Go? Well, you could presumably camp out in Chopper's cabin- he's a canon, he's small, and Sues don't usually attack him. From there you can pull a 'invisible handmaiden' thing, like in TOS.
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One quick note... by
on 2010-03-09 17:29:00 UTC
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We aren't the PPC. We write stories about the PPC, and many agents are self-inserts on some level or another, but the board itself is more of a dis-organization than anything. (However, see the Wiki page on Permission Givers - we have organization, we just prefer not to make a big deal of it.)
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Re: how do I hide aboard a sailing ship? by
on 2010-03-09 11:23:00 UTC
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A mouse or rat? Those would probably be not that uncommon on a pirate ship.
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Re: And, of course, there are other Sporks in the drawer by
on 2010-03-09 10:15:00 UTC
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Oh, don't worry about that. I am the founder of lynching games at Giantitp.com, where we decide on a Sue universe and bash it until all characters are dead. As to sporking Eragon, I consider myself amongst the best.
I was just wondering what this organisations view on these issues is.
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Re: And, of course, there are other Sporks in the drawer by
on 2010-03-09 10:15:00 UTC
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Oh, don't worry about that. I am the founder of lynching games at Giantitp.com, where we decide on a Sue universe and bash it until all characters are dead. As to sporking Eragon, I consider myself amongst the best.
I was just wondering what this organisations view on these issues is.
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And, of course, there are other Sporks in the drawer by
on 2010-03-09 10:03:00 UTC
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All that said, there are other things that can... occur... to bad continuums. Cleolinda has a great list of the problems and oddities in Twilight. The Sword Of Good is a short-story that completely sporks the various concepts common to works like Sword Of Truth, although it's more meant as a stand-alone. Kippurbird, the writer for Agents Alec Troven and Verra has a long, long sporking off all the things in Eragon that she couldn't stand. There's nothing preventing you from using an established format or tone to shamelessly poke fun at a horrible original fiction work; it's just not the PPC's focus.
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Protectors Of The Plot Continuum by
on 2010-03-09 09:52:00 UTC
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If it's bad OriginalFic, OriginalAuthorFic, or licensed CanonFic, that is the Plot Continuum that we're supposed to protect. If there's some fanbrat manages to make something that screams Sue even within the configuration of the Sword of Truth series, it's possible some PPC Agent is assigned the thing, assuming there's an Agent that's familiar with the setting and can be trusted to not kill every canon in a hundred miles.
There's no particular surfeit of Agents chronicled on these boards interested in signing up for such fics, and it would be hard to make them funny, though. You won't see them PPCed too often -- but there are some still in worse fandoms.
Some canons are just left alone. To borrow from the Manual :"...in some cases there wasn't enough of a coherent 'canon' to allow a charge list to be composed. This problem has only been exaggerated by the trend in comic-book movies, and Intelligence has, in general, thrown up its hands and given fanwriters free reign. Some few dedicated Agents continue to monitor the continua to this day, searching for signs of coherency, but they are widely regarded as insane."
Presumably some writing is at this point, as well; it may be impossible to tell where the non-canon Sue is in whirlwinds of glitter, all the stable natural plotholes make the unstable ones near-impossible to figure out, or assembling a charge list is impossible. If the continuum can't be saved, the PPC is just too busy, underfunded, and inexperienced to try and waste Agents on such a matter.
There's some more in-depth discussions on this matter at the Mission Writing Guide on what can and can't be PPCed.
As for settings where the author has forbidden fanfiction, while there are still Mary Sues trying to bend the universe, it's probably best to leave them alone. We'd still be trespassing on the Author's territory, after all. That opens up a lot of opportunity for take-down notices or cease-and-desists on World One, and results ranging from lightning bolts from the sky to sudden quantum existence failure to the Words making every canon character think you're a threat. The Authors are the creators of these worlds, and while their power is not unlimited, Agents can not defy it without becoming the very things they hunt.
All that said, being humorous is a big part -- the big part -- of the PPC, too. If there's an incredibly obvious fanwriter's Sue in a fandom you love to hate, go for it and don't hesitate to make fun of the canonSues while you're there. You can't break what they do in canon, but that still leaves a lot of opportunity for humor.
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Perfect disguise by
on 2010-03-09 08:14:00 UTC
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A cat. Nobody would try to get rid of it, as it would keep down the rats, its cute, and it seems innocent.
Problem: It doesn't like water.
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A grave conundrum by
on 2010-03-09 08:12:00 UTC
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I was wondering, are there any worlds that get written off? I mean, if a canon Sue exists, what do we do about it?
Were those worlds originally innocent, that became possessed by a Sue that is so powerful it perverted reality sufficiently to make it unrecoverable? Or are they simply an ignored part of the fandom. If so, something needs to be done.
For instance, take Terry Goodkind. While he is a gifted author, his characters a blatant power fantasy's and Sues, and are used to shunt his personal political views down our throat, and women are simply there to be abused and raped. And of course, Satan logic.
If you don't agree with me, well each to their own, I will admit I can understand why those less cynical and embittered, or less idealistic may enjoy them, but I see them this way.
As such, Richard could be seen as a Sue, quite easily. Now Goodkind has forbidden fanfiction, so is that because Sues respect him enough to keep of his turf/fear him?
And does our organization leave him alone because we know any attempt to remove him will simply make things worse?
A less controversial example is probably Twilight. While many consider it a mainstream guilty (or not so guilty pleasure). Nothing wrong with that. Many people enjoy Sue stories too. Some of us are probably guilty.
So what is the organizations view on that?
Or Eragon. Blatant Sue, most characters only exist to praise him, he can do anything, and the evil empire only exists because Eragon needs something to oppose.
He learns to read, fluently, in a week. He becomes a master swordsman in two months. And so on.
This is an honest question. I do not judge you for liking them. Hell, I've written for the Eragon fandom, because despite ripping off Tolkien and other authors, he does have potential.
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Re: how do I hide aboard a sailing ship? by
on 2010-03-09 08:01:00 UTC
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Alternatively, you could always just approach Luffy and ask to join the crew. He'll most likely say yes unless he's so far gone that he might as well be an OC, and if any OCs catch you, then Luffy can vouch for you being a crew member.
This, of course, depends on the crew actually landing somewhere. If the fic starts out on the ocean, I'd just portal to wherever they're going to be landing, and take the charges from the Words.
If they're going to spend the entire story on the ocean, then you're going to have to actually have to hide somewhere, and my only real suggestion is the kitchen that presumably exists, since no one ever bothers to think about it.
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Re: how do I hide aboard a sailing ship? by
on 2010-03-09 07:55:00 UTC
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In that case, I'll need to disguise myself as something small that can hold a remote activator and that Luffy won't try to eat (so most sea creatures are out of the question) Any ideas?
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Re: how do I hide aboard a sailing ship? by
on 2010-03-09 07:06:00 UTC
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In plain sight. Cargo bay is a risky possibility, but the fact remains you have to find a way to feed yourself and find water. If your in the ocean, chances are people will notice if it goes missing, and there will be a search.
If they are coast hugging, it will be rather easier, but on a small ship you will likely have trouble. As they are pirates, there is likely a hidey hole beneath the floorboards or in a similar hard to discover area where they keep valuable cargo, but it depends how often they check on it, and the aforementioned issue of supplying yourself.
All in all, I would recommend your best chance is some sort of disguise. If you can't make them open up to you, pretend to be someone they can't dislodge, either out of fear or respect.
- It is a tough question.
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Hang from the rigging? by
on 2010-03-09 06:36:00 UTC
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I dunno. But really there shouldn't be much of a problem as long as nobody actually runs into the agents and they're not being excessively loud, due to the cloaking effect of the SEP field and the canon being helpful.
I like the small disguises idea, though. If ridiculously large disguises can be done (e.g. dragons), then there's no reason ridiculously small ones (rats?) can't. Plus, massive potential for humor in trying to use equipment which may or may not also have shrunk, not be stepped on, etc.
~Neshomeh