I honestly thought it was a No Accountability thing, a la TVTropes.
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Re: Is there a citation function? by
on 2010-01-25 11:55:00 UTC
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Hilarious (nm) by
on 2010-01-25 11:09:00 UTC
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Is there a citation function? by
on 2010-01-25 10:30:00 UTC
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I've never been able to find one, which means 'cite sources' turns into 'list them at the end'.
hS
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Citations on the wiki? by
on 2010-01-25 04:21:00 UTC
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I was browsing earlier and it randomly occurred to me that we don't cite sources very often. There are some articles which link to the missions (or handbook/interlude/whatever) where the item or event or random personality quirk appears, but not often.
May I politely ask that we start to cite a little more? This isn't pointing fingers - I'm guilty of it myself, and it's hardly a tragic omission - but sometimes I find myself wanting to read the context and having no idea where to start.
Just saying.
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I've seen it by
on 2010-01-25 04:11:00 UTC
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Taken lightly, it isn't bad; I rather like his character, espcially one deleted scene where he's play-acting.
As for places with Gatherings, there are only three PPCers in my country - it was just luck that Trojie was visiting this island.
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That's rather more official than I was going for by
on 2010-01-25 01:33:00 UTC
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Frankly, I'm more just after viewpoints and possible silly names that we could throw around for various sorts of Favourites. I'd also like my agent to be able to say she has a Fluffy Admiration Object in a mission without having to explain it, I guess (one of Agent Sedri's less overt traits is her total denial of having a Lust Object, you see - I added the quirk to make her more fun to write).
Certainly, there won't be unanimously agreed definitions, but I thought it might be fun to play a bit. You have a point, of course - some agents' liking of canon characters simply won't fit into general definitions. Maybe in those cases they could make up the names - after all, there are no rules, as long as it doesn't get too ridiculous. "Object Of Adoration" could work, though I imagine it could get shortened down to something like "who's your Object?" in context, which would be... strange.
(As for the nitpicks, don't worry - I do it a lot myself when working with clients, or when beta reading missions or fanfics. I just didn't want you to feel like you had to point them out.)
- Kinda sorta a mission plug~! by on 2010-01-25 01:20:00 UTC Reply
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Er, yes, Agent Gypsy would be a woman by
on 2010-01-25 01:17:00 UTC
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Sorry about that, and thank you for catching the mistake.
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Looks like fun! by
on 2010-01-25 01:08:00 UTC
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I must confess, I burst out laughing upon seeing "Shag Point" on the plesiosaur exhibit picture.
Oh god, City of Ashes... I started it, but just could not make it through. I've never really liked the VSDs either.
I didn't know that was the guy from Princess Diaries 2! Not that I've, uh, seen it or anything. <_>
I've got to go somewhere that has Gatherings.
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Gypsy is a girl. >.> by
on 2010-01-25 01:03:00 UTC
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Last I, uh, checked, anyhow.
- You've now inspired something similar. by on 2010-01-25 01:00:00 UTC Reply
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Re: OT: Beta Request for short Silmarillion fic by
on 2010-01-25 00:56:00 UTC
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Thanks, but I've already got two. I appreciate the offer, and I'll definitely check out your stuff on The Pit though.
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Re: ‘Lust Objects’ vs ‘Favourites’ and Other Definitions by
on 2010-01-25 00:51:00 UTC
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Sorry if I nitpick a bit overmuch.
One character -- I think one of Trojie's, Agent Gypsy -- had his eyes on Serenity, and insisted on the "registered subject of adoration" official term in a mission years ago, rather than a Lust Object. I'm still brainstorming my characters, but I was planning to have one be nonsexed, and have him use that name while his more normal partner stuck with the more common Lust Object. So there are ways to communicate nonsexual interest in a canon, even if not everyone necessarily believes you.
It seems the question would be if you want to have a character with something in each category listed, or want to have a normal sized list of Lust Objects, but be able to further detail what type of adoration is going on. In the former case, trying to come up with a half-dozen broad categories makes a lot of sense.
In the latter, though, I think you'll run into problems trying to get any amount of agreed definitions. The character I was toying with would have a 'thing' for fighters with a strong personality, but while Legolas woobiefication would drive him up the walls, he'd never respect an elf or adore someone for being domestic. Something that's precise for him wouldn't work for most other characters, just as something that's precise for Stormsong wouldn't work for most other agents, or how a description of Discworld kleptomania might not be common. In that sense, something more along the lines of putting the description of how the item is adored within parentheses, perhaps with a few established examples, and using the Object Of Adoration superset might be easier.
That's just the newbie viewpoint on it, though.
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Re: OT: Beta Request for short Silmarillion fic by
on 2010-01-25 00:48:00 UTC
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Thanks! That would be awesome. I'll email it to you ASAP.
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(Bleh. Typos) by
on 2010-01-25 00:21:00 UTC
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Yes, gattsuru, I see them. Too bad we don't have an editing feature. I really must stop making changes and then hitting "post" without doing my third read-through... Ah, well. :)
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Re: OT: Awesome blog: "There, I Fixed It". by
on 2010-01-25 00:20:00 UTC
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Awesome blog indeed. Very funny!
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‘Lust Objects’ vs ‘Favourites’ and Other Definitions by
on 2010-01-25 00:18:00 UTC
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I was just talking with Trojie, and we’ve been thinking that there really needs to be more terms for how agents see characters, because right now everything seems to be broadly classed into “Lust Object”. It just seems to us that the term is too narrowly defined. There are pleanty of ways to adore a character without lusting after them – Trojie and I randomly named a few in our conversation:
Mothering Instinct Objects: the ones we/our agents want to cuddle and feed and tuck into bed, like sick hobbits, or as Jay did for creatures like the Watcher.
Fluffy Adoration Objects: Trojie pinned this one quite effectively when she pointed out that imagining an attractive character being domestic and doing something like making breakfast doesn’t qualify as “lust”.
Respect Them Or Else Objects: the ones we/our agnets adore but are not, by any stretch of the imagination, romantically interested in. Dumbledore would probably fall under this umbrella a lot, as would a character like Arwen or Major Kira to non-femslash female agents.
Paired Objects: the ones who come in pairs and are interesting as a pair – either psychologically or just because they have a relationship that ought to be respected on pain of death, like Sam and Frodo, regardless of whether it’s romantic or platonic.
I’m sure there are more. These all seem to be currently lumped under the heading of “Favourites”, which isn’t inaccurate, but… well, this is the PPC. Do we often leave things simple if we can be more precise?
Honestly, I’m not really sure what I’m after here. I’m certainly not suggesting that every agent’s profile be altered to have listings for all the above sorts, just looking for ideas, I guess – trying to categorise them more accurately, since this is only from our point of view and more minds could make things clearer (or just come up alternate names for these Objects, if you can think of something better, because these aren’t too great).
In short, what are your thoughts?
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Male children by
on 2010-01-25 00:10:00 UTC
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To replace the mysterious vanishing list:
David, Jonathan, Tulane, Zephyr.
--anamia
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Re: Sims 2 Legacy Game!~ by
on 2010-01-25 00:06:00 UTC
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Sim name: Anne (insert last name as appropriate).
Personality:
Slob-Neat - 4
Mean-Nice - 5
Shy-Outgoing - 2
Lazy-Active - 6
Serious-Playful - 5
Turn ons and Turn offs:
Turn ons - Good at creativity, Formal Wear
Turn offs - Good at Body, Stink
Aspiration:
Knowledge, Fortune as a minor one.
Children:
Female - Zion, Zenith, Salem, Sarah-Beth
Picture:http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/slashy-snow-eagle/?action=view¤t=DSCN0003-1.jpg
Not a great picture, but there it is. Also a couple years old.
--anamia
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Count me in then by
on 2010-01-24 23:37:00 UTC
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Like Pads, it's easiest to find a pic on the York Gathering Report. Or if you have any photos of me from San Diego you can use one of them.
Neat: 3
Nice: 7
Outgoing: 6
Active: 3
Playful: 6
Turn ons: glasses, lycanthropy (werewolves need love too!)
Turn off: stink
Aspirations: knowledge and pleasure (secondary).
Boy's names: Ragnar, Yumichika, Neil, Jack
Girls's names: Rangiku, Nel, Lisa, Faye
- OT: Awesome blog: "There, I Fixed It". by on 2010-01-24 23:03:00 UTC Reply
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Gathering report! by
on 2010-01-24 22:35:00 UTC
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http://rc45.dreamwidth.org/110992.html
In which Trojie and Sedri run around Dunedin re-enacting Star Trek-related moments, flailing at rocks and doing a lot of laughing.
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Re: OT: Beta Request for short Silmarillion fic by
on 2010-01-24 22:10:00 UTC
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Well, I'm not sure I'd be the best person to do it, since I have no knowledge of the Silmarillion whatsoever, though I can promise to do enough research to get a gist of the characters and the story before I look at yours. On the other hand, I do have a decent amount of experience as a beta, a slash writer, and a romance writer, which is what you said you wanted help with.
I'm on The Pit if you want to take a look at some of my stuff. I'd warn you away from the earlier stories, since they were written years and years ago, and I will warn you that Emerald Fog contains a 'Sue as a (very) minor character, though said story is in the process of being edited and she is slowly dying a gory death.
The best way to contact me is either via pm on The Pit or by AIM, where I'm known as anamia8742. You could email me (thirteenskater(@)gmail(.)com) but I'm not as good at checking that as I should be.
--anamia