(I don't exactly have access to Torchwood...)
I'll look around for a good fic like that, then. It's definitely a good idea; thanks for suggesting it! I really don't know how I'll react. I'll keep to a midrange rating, though.
Cheers!
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Dumbledore/Grindelwald, for instance? by
on 2008-09-03 00:19:00 UTC
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I agree by
on 2008-09-02 23:56:00 UTC
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Saying that you don't enjoy reading about homosexual romance doesn't make you a homophobe, it just makes you honest :)
For my two cents, I dunno if this helps, but I find het romance fics ... er, boring. I dunno. I'm heterosexual, I'm engaged so, y'know, it's not that I'm against participating in a het romance myself. But reading about it makes me yawn. I'll read it, it doesn't squick me. But it doesn't grab my interest. Whereas slash pairings are always different.
This isn't always a good thing; for a start, they're usually written by straight people, which means you get a lot of what we could call mechanical errors, but ... it generally means they aren't as formulaic as a het pairing, esp. in a canon where homosexuality isn't common.
I'll stop rambling now :)
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Don't despair ... by
on 2008-09-02 22:38:00 UTC
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I've been working on an MST for nearly four years now, and the Good Omens OFU I write has been running for nearly three years.
They'll get done, and I'm sure yours will too :)
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Good Omens Official Fanfiction Summer School Update PLUG! by
on 2008-09-02 22:36:00 UTC
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http://goofss.livejournal.com/3620.html#cutid1
We're only three episodes from the end of year one. Dun dun dun...
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I misspoke. I meant whether the fics were trollfics. by
on 2008-09-02 20:26:00 UTC
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Sorry for not realizing this sooner.
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Why call it a troll? by
on 2008-09-02 19:26:00 UTC
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As I understand it, a troll is someone who spams a forum with unwanted posts, or writes deliberately bad 'fics just to provoke a reaction. This one looks like a straightforward parody/humour to me. So why "troll"?
hS
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That's a good idea. by
on 2008-09-02 15:38:00 UTC
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I think the best moments for Jack/Ianto are the kiss in "They Keep Killing Suzie" (series 1) and Jack asking Ianto on a date in "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" (series 2).
Anything else with a canonical slash pairing would work, too.
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a possible test? by
on 2008-09-02 15:18:00 UTC
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Honestly, though, I don't think that's it.
You could test the theory by watching Torchwood. Jack and Ianto are definitely a canonical couple, if that scene in "Adrift" is anything to go by.
And, if we're being honest, when it comes to romance fic I must admit to being somewhat heterophobic. It just... doesn't maintain my interest in the slightest. I'll have a ponder about why, in case that helps shed some light.
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There's nothing wrong with that. by
on 2008-09-02 12:54:00 UTC
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Everyone has their squick. My dad can't stand slash either. I've got plenty of things that make me go "Ew." I don't think you're a homophobe just because of that.
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Actually, that's just the thing... by
on 2008-09-02 10:18:00 UTC
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I love romance. I go all aww-ish and gooey over them. It might be my favourite genre. But every time I try to read slash, be it m/m or f/f, I just can't. It appears to be my personal squick, and I have no idea why.
I suppose it might be that the slash pairs break up my ideas of "correct" pairings - all of which, now that I think about it, are the deliberate canonical pairings. I've never found myself "seeing the potential" for pairings other than the established, except in cases where the characters never have an established partner. *shrugs* Perhaps, in that regard, I simply have no imagination.
Honestly, though, I don't think that's it. It sounds so terribly biased saying it, and I feel dreaful, but the mental image of two men or two women kissing - even if they're not characters I know - is possibly the most unromantic thing I can imagine. And it's horrible of me, but it's true.
If I may go on a slight tangent, it annoys me to no end that if a bisexual or gay person says they can't stand het relationships, they're practically martyred as "forward thinking" and "confidant", but if I say the same thing in reverse, I'm labled a homophobe. I'm not. I'm really not; I have nothing against homosexuality; I have gay friends, and I'm glad that people can be happy. It's just not for me. In Real Life or fanfic.
Perhaps the best illustration is thus: I'm perfectly fine with knowing the biological theory of how I came to exist, but that doesn't mean I'm happy to watch my parents have sex. I just don't need to see that.
... and I'm rambling again, aren't I? I do appreciate your attempt to make me feel better.
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I wouldn't worry about it by
on 2008-09-02 10:01:00 UTC
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If it makes you feel any better, my primary fanfic at the moment is closing in on its first birthday, and it's... dragging. Tremendously.
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A few more by
on 2008-09-02 09:36:00 UTC
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From friends and family and so on
Elad
Noremac (or could be Noramac to make it look better)
Nylorac (could be twins)
Ydnew
Leahcim
Werdna
Nahtan (hmm... this one's almost Elvish... maybe a smith with red hair?)
Ekul
Nirtak
Etak
Ardnaxela
Anewor
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If it makes you feel better... by
on 2008-09-02 05:58:00 UTC
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I can't understand how anyone could not get slash. ^_^" If you don't like the romance genre, then that's fine by me, but I don't get why someone would enjoy het pairings but not slash ones (unless said slash pairing breaks up their het OTP- I understand that all too well).
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Indeed. by
on 2008-09-02 05:45:00 UTC
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A collection of sporks is a wonderful thing to have. You'll notice the case has depressions for all sorts of anti-Sue cutlery. Your collection has only just begun. =D
I'm ashamed to say that my first and only PPC-ing is as yet unfinished. And my friend and I began it ages ago. I keep wanting to complete it, but then I get so tired...
I really need to work on my resolve.
--Mystia
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Mmm, I agree: Mostly harmless. But then again, remember... by
on 2008-09-02 04:55:00 UTC
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...where else that's been said. *grin* Ah, Douglas Adams...
But yeah; mostly harmless. For now, at least.
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Mmm... all good points. To clarify... by
on 2008-09-02 04:52:00 UTC
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I was talking about both average-rated romance femslash and pure smut stories, as I'm really no judge of slashfic quality.
I suppose it's worth stating here that, after reading those forty different interviews, many of them from you lovely PPCrs (*hugs*), it's easy to conclude that I am (once again) something of the odd one out. I just can't bring myself to read slash that's beyond what can be talked off as friednship; I don't know why. I'm just traditional, I guess, and I always - in any subject - tend to stick with what I know. My own sexuality has a huge impact on what I read and write, and "fun pairings" have never appealed to me.
Maybe that's the problem? My lack of imagination? Or simple squickiness. I've got nothing against it, of course, but I just... I still don't get it. Intellectually, I agree with every point you guys have made
... I could start a long rant now on What's Wrong With Friendship?, but that's probably not a good idea. I tend to get dramatic. And I'm rambling far enough off-topic anyway.
But if nothing else, at least this makes the theoretical side of things clearer, and that's mainly what I need for my essay. I do feel a bit blind, though.
(And Lycaenion, to be honest, I haven't read Wicked yet, either; I'm talking mainly about the musical adaptation and all the fanfic for that.)
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I've received emails from... by
on 2008-09-02 02:32:00 UTC
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Fynn, Kitsune, Makari and Ansela. If anyone else has sent some, I'm afraid I haven't got them.
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Another theory... by
on 2008-09-02 02:25:00 UTC
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It could be them writing what they know. After all, for all that we've taken sex ed, we do know our own bodies better than those of the opposite gender. It may be easier for females (regardless of sexual preference) to visualize what two women would do than what two men (or even a man and a woman) would do.
That said, it could easily be for one of the reasons listed below.
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Re: OT: Why do straight women write femslash? by
on 2008-09-02 02:01:00 UTC
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I'd imagine similar reasons apply to writing f/f as writing m/m. Not having the appropriate manly bits, I can't really appreciate an m/m fic by identifying hugely with one or other character, but they're still interesting to read and write about, because we're not talking about pr0n here, we're talking about stories about people. You might as well ask why authors who happen to be lesbians write straight couples. The author's sexuality should have no more bearing on characters or plot or anything else than, for example, their skin colour or nationality.
Of course, if we are talking blatant pr0n, that's another matter entirely, and I doubt you'd get many wholly and comfortably heterosexual women writing PWP femmeslash. If you're writing or reading for the sex, after all, it's pretty pointless reading or writing about sex that really doesn't do anything for you.
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I've found some of it, by
on 2008-09-02 02:00:00 UTC
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a user called 'srynoramen' has the first 25 or so eps uploaded, which will keep me busy for a while. Found the manga on MangaFox.
And if I'd known Shin Miki was in it then I would have started watching it ages ago. He's one of my favourite seiyu.
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You think that's bad, you try writing "Yuminyan" sometime. (nm) by
on 2008-09-02 01:57:00 UTC
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Quite a lot of it, last time I checked. by
on 2008-09-02 01:56:00 UTC
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Or you can read the manga online if you want. *prepares silver tray of links*
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I think it's more that they write any pairing... by
on 2008-09-02 01:55:00 UTC
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... that they find interesting. I can't really comment, even though I like slash and femslash, because I'm bi. I have a straight friend who quite likes m/m but gets squicked at f/f. Maybe the straight women who write femslash just see a specific pairing and think "Oh, they are so together." Then they write it, not because it's hot, but because it's a romantic pairing that they find interesting. You don't have to find something "hot" to enjoy writing it. I mean, look at all the SyaoSaku fans. I doubt many of them see their relation as anything other than "omg so cute".
Most likely though is that they're just open-minded and mature enough to not let something like sexuality get in the way of writing a fun pairing.
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Okay, might have to call my assassins in too ... by
on 2008-09-02 01:27:00 UTC
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Sadly they both love NIN and would be rendered catatonic by what happens to it in this thing, so I don't know how much help they'd be.
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Sent an enrolment in... by
on 2008-09-02 00:57:00 UTC
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however, Gmail is being annoying and eating emails currently so it may have gone missing. Did you get it, Cass?