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I am respectfully going to reply anyway, because I think this is an important conversation.

It wouldn't be for me to comment on whether you're racist; my hunch, and certainly my hope, is that you aren't, but your thoughts belong to you. My concern is that your actions normalise and trivialise a narrative which makes things easier for people who are racist. Your intentions don't have to be bad for your actions to cause harm.

I understand the distinction you've drawn between edgelords and racists. I agree there is a line between--also aware that it's a easy step across. I wouldn't at all like to see you leave the PPC; my preferred option is that you stay, really think about the feedback you've had about this issue, and take advantage of an environment that will support you if you want to step away from the edginess.

If I didn't think it was important and you were worth the investment of time, I certainly wouldn't have bothered--my lurking skills are finely honed over the last 15 years, and it takes a lot to stir me from my slumber. Truly written in a spirit of kindness.

Did you really mean to state that you still think it's "cool" to play with the "shock value" of an ideology that murders people for their skin color, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, and more?

And above, did you really mean to tell us that you still intend to create offensive garbage on Newgrounds, with people you describe as less sensitive than you, who you nonetheless choose to be friends with?

Think very carefully about how your response may reflect on the sincerity of your apologies and your intent to change.

~Neshomeh

I took a look at WHH a while ago. I've forgotten what I read, but I'll take a look at these once I've finished painting my kill-team. It just feels wrong to be reading Warhammer fanfic at the expense of actually wargaming.

The reason why I wanted to call out these people is so that, when they apologized, I could prove to Willis that you are all actually decent people and didn’t intend to hurt him. I’m kinda still learning how to gracefully advocate for myself and others, so the wording was probably screwed up and sent some serious mixed messages. I apologize for any feelings of personal attck this caused.

-Twistey

We’re all still learning here. Some of us more than others. *gestures exaggeratedly at self*

I think that to better preserve your peace of mind, I may end up doing one of the following things, ranked from least to most drastic and least to most effective:
- Using my upcoming spring break as an excuse to get away and detox both me and all of you. (Well, that’s going to happen no matter what, but I could also do either of the following...)
- Not migrating to our new discussion site when we get one, and just hanging around here until yourwebapps shuts down. At that point, you can consider me a purely historical entity of the PPC.
- Using my upcoming break as an excuse to become a purely historical entity of the PPC. I’m not really considering this one too seriously.

I’m also likely going to start my own sporking group on Newgrounds for Willis to migrate to, as he’s probably a little too emotionally vulnerable to stay here. This group will also house all the friends that I would recruit except they have an even worse sense of offensiveness than me. (Scary!) And possibly some of the stuff that I can’t post here, since Newgrounds’ target market is in fact quasi-insensitive youth such as me (their logo is a tank, for crying out loud.) So if it comes into existence and if I ever plug it with a big content warning on it, don’t think of me as a traitor or trying to avoid making personal change, because that’s just where I’ll be going to dump my garbage.

-Twistey
P.S. On an even lighter note: Since a lot of people had fun with the military tactics aspect of Ship War, I had the best idea for how to bring back a “safer” version that kinda combines with the Badfic Game. Tell me how you like this: A group of hilariously petty Suethors leading nations of Mary Sues against each other. :D I give you full permission to use it if I happen to be gone by next year.

Are you trying to call me racist? I do not support any actual racism. There is a difference between being an edgelord (someone who obsesses with dark/taboo things just because of the shock value, or thinks they’re being cool) and being a racist (someone who genuinely believes that their race is superior to others). I am a specimen of the former, but I understand what you’re saying and will attempt to keep my edge out of this.

-Twistey

I'll be recommending an autor here, GhostXavier, and his series Fragments of Chaldea, who forms a slice-of-life series about the organization at the heart of Fate Grand Order. Very nice at slice of life and fluff, and funny moments.
Some of the major events of the story got their own story, pretty awesome too, although the author unfortunately disconitnued them for cause of Real Life. Drafts of these extra stories are still published in an 'extra scenes' story.
Still ongoing, going through the events between Year 1 and 2 of the game, and available on AO3 if you want to read them in Entire Work mode (although with one chapter of delay compared to ff.net).

I'll also recommend the auhor Cerulean, both for his Worm AU fanfics Intrepid and Absolution, and his original stories Heretical Edge and Summus Proelium, this one just starting.

Be assured everything here is more than worth the read.

What can I say? The thread inspired me.

Rec list is here. Among the new ones I particularly recommend "I Never Promised You A Rose Garden" (Harry Potter, Neville-centric, post-war and beautiful), and "Glorfindel Fair" (LotR, features young!Estel, a song about Glorfindel's historic heroics, and Glorfindel's reactions to said song. Absolutely hilarious).

~Z

...And recommend a set of classic 40k fics that have no right to be as good as it is: Warhammer High.

WHH is an AU where the Heresy never happened, The Great Crusade properly ended, the galaxy is peaceful (relatively: this IS 40k, so think less noticeable constant war), and all the primarchs had wives and daughters. Depending on the fic, sometimes they also had sons. We usually ignore that because the sons don't show up so much in the good stuff.

However, WHH is really big, with tons of different fics by different authors of varying quality. It can be difficult to start. So now I must present the OFFICIAL THOTH LIST OF WHH STUFF WORTH READING.

(Warning, this is a /tg/ AU and 1d4chan is the repo of record for the thing. As a result, you should just generally assume that all of these pages may contain swearwords. I will try to warn of outright NSFW content, but I may miss something.)

And the list is basically just anything by Someone Else (a Who's On First name if I've ever heard one). Someone Else is the reason why WHH is as good as it is. He's brilliant. In particular, you need to read his series of 4 WHH fics, which are as follows:

-Venus' Burn (NSFW). All about Vulkan's daughter and her boyfriend. This is about as mild as a smutfic gets, and with so much plot you'd be forgiven for missimg the smut. It's also really really really good. And adorable: Someone Else is a sucker for a happy ending.

-Bleeding Out. A primarch's daughter gets shot, and it goes downhill from there. It takes a deeper dive into the angst and depression and feelings of inadequacy around the daughters and generally has that feeling of angst. And yet it doesn't feel overly angsty. It feels compelling. Did I mentipn it's novel length?

-ROAD TRIP! and Eternity... I'll confess I haven't read these yet. But everyone says they're great, and having read these, I believe them.

Also:

-Furia's Failed Dare>: This feels a bit like a prototype for Bleeding Out. It's good, though.

There are a ton of other good stories around. That's just a starter.

The thing is resolved. It didn't even really need to be resolved. I know, and acknowledged, that it was just a joke that I overreacted to. End of story. I opted in with those rather tight restrictions because I didn't know what was going to happen, but I thought it might be fun to participate in a limited way. But the fact that I did doesn't make me a bad person. I was just attempting to have a bit of fun like everyone else. Now can we drop his issue? It's resolved and doesn't need further discussion.

You say you can't just "drop" it, but what do you mean?

Do you mean that

a) You're itching to post more of it?

b) You can't stop thinking about it?

:P

(Though speaking of that show, the season 3 trailer dropped and it'll be coming out July 4th!)

Funny coincidence: I go in to work early on Thursdays, and treat myself to breakfast at Starbucks as compensation. ^_^ *toasts with Starbucks cup*

I'm glad you enjoyed the story!

Literary references included the Dragonriders of Pern series, the Harry Potter series, Jekyll & Hyde the stage musical, and the Phantom of the Opera stage musical. I think that's it, unless something else sneaked in without my notice. Stranger things have happened!

Thanks,

~Neshomeh

I'm sorry. Your concerns were misrepresented, and I reacted to a flawed understanding of your feelings.

However, I'm more sorry you opted into the Shipfest at all to begin with. It's clear that you have trouble separating yourself from fictional (mis)representations of yourself. That's a skill we do expect people to learn, particularly in the context of fanfiction, which often includes fictional representations of the author—but it takes practice. If you're not there yet, and if you weren't in a great place emotionally on top of it, a game that specifically involves a (mis)representation of you using your own screenname rather than a distinct character's name was no place for you.

I don't know this happened, but given your obvious reluctance and reservations about the whole thing, let me say this: if—that's if—Twistey prodded you into it at all, that was wrong of her, and you guys will have to work that out between yourselves.

If not, good. Please learn from this experience and use it to make wiser decisions for yourself in the future.

~Neshomeh

I might be able to read it through if I know the canon.

Email should be clickable.

This Shipfest (from what I've observed of it - and I've been here a while, so I HAVE quite a bit to draw observations from) is not an excuse for us to write people as we think they really are, either.

So it's not supposed to be that, I promise. We are all allowed to have 'no's on how our fictional selves are represented here, too: for example, I was able to opt out as a Boarder while still letting a defined-fictional version of myself be available - something like that might work for you?

I'll recommend this one, Chaos Theory, by Mozco:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6372400/1/Chaos-Theory

Basically, it starts with a context looking like Heaven's Feels for starters, before giving you the Illya Road you either always wanted, or didn't know you needed that badly before reading that story. A must for Nasuverse fans. And better yet, a finished one.

Nazism is not an intellectually interesting historical trivium, nor is it a game. It killed millions of people within living memory, and the philosophy persists and continues to kill people today. It will continue to kill until people refuse to allow it on their platforms, so Neshomeh is absolutely right to make this stand.

It has no place in the PPC.

You can indeed "just drop it", and I suggest that you do--not to make you more comfortable if you ever visit Germany, but because it is murderous.

. . . is that people are written wildly out of character. At the risk of disillusioning people, I've never gone anywhere near a corset, and have no plans to change that. But that hasn't stopped people creating the epic story of Iximaz and Me, corset!BFFs (I don't even remember how that started anymore. It's just a thing now).

You don't have to participate in the Shipfest if it makes you uncomfortable--and I would surmise, from the repeated and complex limitations on your participation, that it very well might. It's not at all obligatory and nobody will think less of you if you opt out.

I will note, however, that hS was not "messing with" you, as alleged in Twistey's original post. It wasn't some sort of juvenile hazing ritual; hS isn't that way inclined. It was just an OOC Shipfest story, like so many others, with literally zero personal ill-will. Hopefully that makes things a bit clearer.

--Kaitlyn