Subject: I’m a fan of Gundalf myself.
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Posted on: 2022-03-07 08:46:16 UTC
He’s just an old dude in grey with a gun.
Subject: I’m a fan of Gundalf myself.
Author:
Posted on: 2022-03-07 08:46:16 UTC
He’s just an old dude in grey with a gun.
Uh, we talked about this in the Lounge. I honestly don’t know what to say about it personally.
Link to the announcement thing: https://href.li/?https://www.tolkienestate.com/frequently-asked-questions-and-links/?fbclid=IwAR3oyGPRKgf1sE3B9D_3e1WtVJaYV0yZHConYXedDJY79tDy8SKmYetqrY4
It had to end on an Arda mission in order to work the way I planned.
As far as I can tell, absolutely no one is taking this seriously, or even talking about it much at all. The "no fanworks" policy may not even be new—it's only getting attention because they recently launched a new website design.
~Neshomeh
Did they have to pay royalties or not?
I still intend to subject the planet names in a fictional star system whose world names are Pokémon-themed to a few language changes' worth of sound-shifts, regardless.
Cygames, Inc. (in)famously ban sexually explicit fanworks of the game Uma Musume Pretty Derby in order to avoid defaming the real-life owners of the race horses portrayed in the game. What's the comm's opinion on this?
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Hey, hS, got a fic idea for ya.
It's really, really pleasant to see good fic come out of something as nasty as this.
I'm wondering what they would have done to me. I have not only written fanfic, I've written bad Suefic. I haven't written much fanfic compared to you, though. Would they be more harsh for it being bad, or would it be the same because they apparently hate all fanfic?
With such brilliant characters as Soddo Laggins and the mysterious philosopher Sandalf.
He’s just an old dude in grey with a gun.
or at all
Just in case my strident objections to the Estate's new policy weren't clear enough. {= P
~Neshomeh
ding dong
Oh, hold on...
. . . . Huh, looks like I'm being sued.
"Legal"* opinion coming later, but I deny the Estate's moral right to do this. I will keep using my screenname and writing fanfic, whether I have to self-host or sharding samizdat it. Middle-earth is too important to me.
hS
I Am Not A Lawyer, but I *am a regulatory chemist, so I at least move in the same documents as them.
it's about respecting the feelings of the original creator. Even if it's legal to write twice-removed fics in a quarantined continuum, we still don't allow them for this reason.
In this case, I think it's safe to assume that the people who created the work in question (J.R.R. and Christopher Tolkien) were fine with fan stuff. J.R.R. Tolkien got tons of LotR-inspired gifts from fans and enjoyed them. Christopher Tolkien absolutely knew about fan works and never asked for them to stop.
The only reason for things to change now is because the legal construct that happens to hold the copyright Said So.
I can grudgingly respect the wishes of an individual, living author who's afraid that freely permitting fanworks could result in them losing the rights to their IP, even if I don't actually agree with them.
NEVER will I EVER support shutting down all fan expression in favor of protecting a corporate entity that's been profiting big-time thanks to the very same fan-love they're trying to quash. My feelings about this are unprintable on a PG-13 forum.
~Neshomeh
I would probably reserve judgement about this FAQ until they start sending C&Ds to Stephen Colbert for nerding out on his show, or, again, Gimli/Legolas smut writers on AO3. This is a matter for OTW to handle right now and we’ll see where they get with it.
That's solidly under the New Line license, which was sold completely by Txlkxxn. The Estate doesn't make a penny of it.
It is a /weird scenario/ when Peter Jackson's crew are the good guys in a Fandom dispute.
hS
Doujinshi are overlooked under Japanese copyright law because they don’t compete in the same market as the original, and they don’t infringe on the profits of the original.
Also, it’s highly unlikely some amateur Japanese fanartist will ping the radar of a big estate in a different country. Not to mention the difficulty the estate will have in proving the artist is copying Tolkien’s images or material especially when most doujins have distinct art styles from the original, and the writing is likely to be in a different language.
How about one of us directly email the estate and ask what they mean by "publish"?
The OTW keeps lawyers on retainer for this exact reason.