The question I have is this: When are we moving on to the voting stage? Or are we delaying due to current events?

I'm terrible at coming up with specific reasons for things, but I think he'd be good at it. Uh... yeah.

This is a pretty huge responsibility. Perhaps if this had come up about a month ago, I would have said something along the lines of "I generally do not mix well with responsibility. Regretfully, I must decline."

Since then, I've had to deal with 14 kids with ODD.

If I can handle them, I'm pretty sure I can handle being a PG.

With that said, I accept the nomination.

Everything I have to say on the matter has probably already been said, but here goes.

I was surprised to see FlareShard nominated so quickly - she only got permission two days ago - but, thinking about it, I think she'd be great for the job. She's clearly a good writer and able to tell good writing from bad, and she's quite active in the community, and always keeps in the spirit of the PPC. She'd have my vote.

Firstly, second for Tranum and Flareshard. They are both steady in chat and good writers. They both also get the spirit of the PPC.

I'd also like to nominate Callista. She has done a lot of work on the wiki in the past. While she has had reservations about getting started writing missions, I believe she does get the spirit of the PPC and she has excellent grammar and writing skills.

For Maslab, he has had a tendency to have bad timing on occasion, that much is true. He does have long experience with moderating a rather fractious video game group, though. He knows the IRC commands inside and out and has been very steady in enforcing the few consequences that our group has in IRC. He is also a daily fixture in IRC, and has been for a very long time, which says that he should continue to be a fixture if he is made a PG. For the I'd be able to vote for him.

For Joe, I am not sure I could second him. He has not been around much, and that is part of why we are wanting to nominate new PGs, so at the basic level it doesn't make much sense to vote in someone who already is not around much.

I am really surprised and flattered by the number of people willing to nominate me. I'm not sure I have as much confidence in me as everyone else seems to have, but I will accept the nomination and will do my best by the community. I really love the PPC, and want it to continue on.

Miah and Tranum(Tray-Gnome?) for me.

First things first. I second Tranum's nomination. He's done some good work and he's got a good grip on how the community works.

Now for the big rant. For some reason I can't really put my finger on, this whole PG selection process has got my dander up. I don't want the PPC to become a source of frustration for me, so I'm gonna vent a little bit. Sorry.

The following is what I'm looking for in a Permission Giver:

Demonstrated Presence on Both the Board and IRC
A Permission Giver that only shows up in the IRC is useless. The opposite - a Boarder who never sets foot in the IRC - is also true. Good PGs should not only be able to fuction in both settings, they should be a regular presence.

Substantive Constructive Criticism
Permission Givers must be harsh but fair judges of writing. There are too many one-line 'That was hilarious!' reviews in the PPC. I know, I've fallen into that trap before. One of the goals of Permission Givers, as the top dogs of our little internet kennel, should be to guide, promote, and improve the works of their peers. They probably should be beta readers, too.

Community Experience
The PPC is its own universe, with its own rules and quirks. I want a Permission Giver who knows those quirks first hand, who has a few missions under her or his belt already. I want to see that they know how to write a good mission.

I hope that didn't come off as too much. Just felt like I needed to get that out there for some outside consideration.

I second the nomination for FlareShard, and add a nomination for Tray-Gnome Tranum. He's quick to joke, slow to anger, and has done very well both on his own and with co-writers so far. And from what he's said in the chat, he's good at dealing with groups of people (reading kids Lovecraft totally counts!), so as long as he doesn't go into shock and/or kill me for nominating him...

(He's a zombie squirrel from Gunnerkrigg Court! What could possibly go wrong?)

I'd like to nominate WarriorJoe and Miah, since I trust them both to be good PGs, at least from what I have experienced from both in the little time I was here now.

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To the people who are concerned about me as a PG, I can fully understand that - I am still new, and probably still have some emotional baggage and unnecessary defense mechanisms left from the old community I came from (as some in the IRC might have already heard), and I'm still working hard on getting rid of those, since you guys are worth it.

Now I'm not trying to make any excuses, I just want to explain why I'm the way I am now, and I want you to know that I have come to love this place enough to have decided not to leave it behind anytime soon.
This community and the people here got me back into accepting my work for what it's worth, even if I still have a long way to go ahead of me, and that already means a lot to me.

I would have never guessed that I would get Permission this fast, let alone people actually vouching for me to become a Permission Giver (to be honest, I almost fell out of my chair when Neshomeh asked me what I would think of her nominating me), so... wow. Holy carps.

Even people asking me whether I were interested in doing co-writes with them or joining their RPs is something I never expected to happen this fast, and... damn, I'm getting misty-eyed as I write this, it's almost embarrassing. You guys made me feel like a part of something great, and this makes me happy beyond words.

... Thank you. And sorry for that sappy rant.

We've sort of missed explaining how this works (or at least, how it has worked in the past), so before it goes on longer:

Phase one, which we're in, is nominations. Nominees need to at least be seconded to be candidates. This'll go on until there aren't any more new nominations.

Phase two: Nominees must accept or decline their nominations! We can't force the PG Hat on someone who doesn't want it!

Phase three: We vote on those who accept. Assuming we're definitely looking for two new PGs, if there are only two candidates, they've got a pretty good chance of being voted for. {; P Any more than that, everybody gets two votes, and the folks with the most become PGs. This will happen in a new thread to avoid confusion.

Hope that helps!

~Neshomeh

I think everything relevant about Miah's nomination has already been said.

While I can see why people have reservations about FS becoming a Permission Giver, I don't share them. In my opinion a PG needs to have a knowledge of what constitutes good writing (yup), good knowledge what the PPC is about (yup) and the trust of the community. I for one can't think of any reason why we shouldn't trust her.

I don't think the fact that she only recently got Permission should count against her, there's much more to the community than actually having Permission.

((Oh, and in case people wonder how I can say that having not been around much recently: I have been lurking, I just didn't have the time to actively participate! :P))

I would support Miah as a Permission Giver. FlareShard? Eh... no. New blood is all very well and good, but I would prefer someone with more experience within the community.

Seconding the vote for Miah. I can't really say about FlareShard, but I'm leery of giving the PG Hat to anyone who's only just got Permission themselves.

I can't say anything about FlareShard as I just haven't been aroung enough to know. And... how long has Flare been around? My knee-jerk reaction to giving PG status to someone who only just got Permission is negative, largely because lots of people tend to vanish shortly after getting, but if there's enough of an argument...

'cause they're both awesome.

Miah is a really good choice, and FlareShard too! I'll...second? Third? her nomination. Miah has been here a while and is very dependable. FlareShard is new and has a lot of spirit, already has a bunch of co-writes lined up. Good planner, that one. :P

I... fourth? the nomination for Miah.

I can't honestly vote for or against Flare Shard, what with me being gone the whole summer.

Another vote for Miah

My reasoning, since Flare just got Permission herself and is newer than PGs typically are: Well, that. A lot of PGs have faded away, and I'm hoping some fresher blood will last longer. ... God, that sounded creepy. But, yeah. We need some life in the ranks, and Flare is REALLY excited about being part of the community and having Permission. I think she gets what the community is about, and will keep it up for members present and future.

I like Miah for PG because she's active both on the Board and the IRC, she's been around a while, and she's a mom, which gives her a great skill set.

NOTE: Nominees have to accept their nomination before they can be voted in, so everyone knows.

~Neshomeh

... but since I post on here once every blue moon or less, I can't really say who else I'd suggest.

Seconding Miah, and nominating Maslab as well. Dude's proved he's fairly rational most of the time both on the IRC and as an admin in another community.