The PPC Posting Board - Latest posts

And while I'm here, a correction: the title of the series is actually Race to the Edge. (In full, DreamWorks Dragons: Race to the Edge, but whatever.) Riders of Berk was the first season, Defenders of Berk was the second, and then they moved from Cartoon Network to Netflix and it's been Race to the Edge ever since.

~Neshomeh

"Oh look, a massive play undone by a SINGLE MOVE! Only in a children's card game—

...you know what? I play Red/Blue. I am officially not allowed to criticize here."

--TTS!Magnus on Kitten vs Tzeentch

...I figured that was relevant.

I mean, I was still enthralled by it. Admittedly, from a conciseness/directness standpoint, there are a lot of vignettes in the middle section of the book that don't have direct bearing on the outcome of the novel, about random townspeople. But I felt that helped to flesh out the setting more, and gave an idea of the scope of the changes affecting the town. Some of the information provided from that section led me to guess some information about the Tommyknockers's nature before the reveal at the end, and I'm typically bad at figuring things out on my own before a novel reveals them. So I don't think there's much I would like to see cut out, personally.

—doctorlit, watching water boil

. . . for them to provide an example just as we were discussing this!

—doctorlit isn't implying they're listening in on us, or anything

Dafydd is a person of deep contrasts. His primary is obviously red - he's an impulsive individualist, and also a pyro. Secondary has to be his arrogance - as a Feanorion, he's very sure he's better than everyone. I think that's black. But underneath, he's very much a traditionalist - he gets twitchy when he's not able to do elven things. So that makes him green.

Agent Kaitlyn is also primarily red, but in a different way - she's so bouncy that she sees all of life as an adventure. Secondarily, I think she's white - partly because she Just Wants Everyone To Get Along, but also because she is at heart a rule-follower - she actually requisitioned a chair for herself, rather than stealing one! Tertiary... I'm not sure she has one; blue, if anything, because she is pretty smart.

Morgan is primarily white. She sees herself as a creature of order, and tries to get people to rally to the cause. (This has on at least one occasion led her to conquer all of reality, but, y'know, it happens.) Backing that up is her blue character, as someone who will plan herself into the ground if given the chance. But... buried under all that is a fiery strain of red, which tends to lead her to wild improvising and occasional explosions.

I'm having trouble with Selene. I think her primary might be green, odd though that sounds - she's devoting a lot of energy to not rocking the boat, which is a sort of twisted version of green. Under that she's definitely red, being a vampire who is driven by her instincts if not careful. And third? ... I don't think she has one; it would be red again, because under all the above she's a fragile person who basically just wants a friend. That red is doing double service in two very different aspects.

hS

Wobbles the Clown: WHITE/RED/GREEN
Primary: White. Wobbles is someone who wants people to be happy. It's the core of her being. Helping people be happy, putting things in place so that people who aren't happy can become happy, these are things she views as the highest good. 'S'why she tried out for the Department of Angst before being shoved into Floaters.
Secondary: Red. Wobbles is very much an emotionally driven person - and it's here that we see the slightly darker side of that. See, Wobbles abhors negative emotions (classic Whovians may recall the Happiness Patrol) and does everything in her power to defy and diminish them, regardless of how healthy that may be in the long run. It's emotional freedom, but only the freedom to feel certain emotions, which is why she's only a secondary Red and not a primary.
Tertiary: Green. It was a struggle as to which of these went first, but I decided to put Red as having precedence over Green despite her enforced connection to the natural world (or rather, her enforced disavowal of modern technology). Indeed, it might be because it's so forced; it's not so much a part of her psyche as it is a part of her physiology. Hroa rather than fear, as the elves say.

The Fifth Notary: WHITE/BLACK/BLUE
Primary: White: This is an entirely different kind of White to Wobbles. The Notary craves structure more than anything else, a system of rules and regulations that govern everything from Brownian motion in a teacup to the dance of galactic clusters. This basic, intrinsic need for order above all else makes her White alignment somewhat darker than others, but ho hum. Remember, to a non-believer, even the holiest angel is just another monster.
Secondary: Black: Of course, as far as the Notary's concerned, the whole point of a system is to learn how to rig it in your favour. This is the central conflict in her psyche; she craves order and rules, but chafes against their restrictions when they get in the way of what she actually wants.
Tertiary: Blue: In order to get ahead in a system governed by rules, you have to understand them; in order to understand them, you have to be smart in a lot of different ways. The Notary embodies this to an extent; a very detail-oriented person with an axe to grind against improperly-completed forms. Again, it was a struggle as to which of these was the stronger attribute.

Lola McCandless: BLUE/WHITE/RED
Primary: Blue: When it comes to field command, you need command intelligence. You need to have a precise and in-depth knowledge of tactics and logistics, of what you can get and when it will get there, of what you have to hand and who you have by your side. She didn't have it to begin with, but having horrible alien space thingies hurl plasma at your face tends to teach you that fairly fast.
Secondary: White: Of course, being at the top of the heap means you have to have a heap to be on top of, and that means at least a little bit of White being involved in your psychological makeup. Lola's view of the chain of command is that it works because the higher-ups make it work, and that it has to be there in order for anything to function on a logistical level. From chaos comes death, in her view and her experience. XCOM is not a nice place, especially when crossed over with everything from Buffy the Vampire Slayer to Captain Scarlet.
Tertiary: Red: Part of being a good commander in the field, however, is being flexible. If you overplan, you can construct something overcomplicated and that leads to failure and the deaths of good men and women under your command. This kind of lateral thinking is what allows for her to keep fighting and get people out alive even when the plan's gone to hell and the Sectopods are stomping towards you like a drunken stepdad taking off his belt. It needs a level of emotional intelligence and knowledge of morale, and that's a pretty Red characteristic if ever there was one. =]

So, you've got Thoth as U/R/B (U=Blue for those not familiar with MTG shorthand). I like this because when I went through and tried to give a two-color combination to each Legion, the Thousand Sons were U/R. Blue for the obvious knowledge-over-everything mentality. The Red is for that resistance to rules that caused their fall in the first place. So, being that he is a Thousand Son, that is a good starting point for Thoth.

-Phobos

Lessee here...

Thoth: U/R/B. I mean, blue is the primary, that doesn't take any explanation a all. His dubious moral compass and fundamental self-interest make black another obvious choice. However, beneath that most readily observable surface, Thoth has a deep desire for freedom — it's part of what drove him to the PPC to begin with. And while his history has made it rare for him to form bonds (and his relative lack of emoting makes it hard for many to even attempt it) when he does, they go fairly deep. He's willing to go pretty far for something or someone he values.

Tom: R/U/W. Tom tends to run on emotions. He'll do things because he thinks it's right, or funny, or wasn't actually thinking at all but rationalized it later. However, as a person who worked with long chains of abstract logic all day, he's got a lot of blue to his outlook as well: valuing knowledge and self-improvement, and perfection in his work (because the alternative is demons everywhere). Despite all of this, Tom believes in the group over the individual (hard not to, given what the Laundryverse is like), and has a very solid sense of right and wrong beneath everything.

In an interview with Rolling Stone, Stephen King said of The Tommyknockers:

I've thought about it a lot lately and said to myself, "There's really a good book in here, underneath all the sort of spurious energy that cocaine provides, and I ought to go back." The book is about 700 pages long, and I'm thinking, "There's probably a good 350-page novel in there."

Here is the full interview for those interested:
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/stephen-king-the-rolling-stone-interview-20141031

A new season of Riders of Berk came out recently, and this morning I watched an episode where the twins took Barf & Belch through a barrel roll. I made sure to pay close attention, and it was the real thing. So real barrel rolls are HtTYD canon. ^_^

~Neshomeh legit enjoys this show, especially since it moved to Netflix and got even more continuity than it had before.

She doesn't really care about power, though, in the way that a typical bully does. Might Makes Right, sure, but that's the law of the jungle—that's Green. It's not about controlling others so she feels secure, it's about bopping things that are wrong on the head so that the natural order is restored. The "natural order" here is mainly that Gall Is Awesome, but also extends to the act of Sue-slaying to put canon back to normal. I have just thought of this, but I think it fits. She's mainly doing it because it's fun, but she has instinctively felt that Mary Sues are freaks that need to be put down from Day 1, too.

~Neshomeh

...except with Gall. I really think she's Black before she's Green. She does what she wants, but she's selfish about it. She's a bully, as well. I would put her down as Red-Black-Green.

-Phobos

About Nume's primary being Blue, I mean. I did guess Ilraen would have the colors you picked for him. Gall being red is perfect. I run a dragons deck that I think she'd get a kick out of... Did not guess Black for Derik, though.

As for Jenni... I think Red-White-Blue would fit her pretty well. White's about peace and healing, too, which fits her as a FicPsych nurse. :)

Elanor safe in the Nursery? Check. Zeb sufficiently distracted and out of the RC? Check. TARDIS tidied up? Well, sort of check. It was presentable, anyway.

Hair?

The Aviator growled out a low string of Gallifreyan swears as she tugged a brush through her snarled locks. Once she had her hair straightened, braiding it would be easy, but right now she was wrestling with a knot the size of her fist, and she was seriously beginning to consider reaching for the scissors.

Wait—there. The rat came loose and the Aviator quickly brushed it smooth before setting to work on braiding.

She glanced behind her at the black dress she'd laid out on her bed, taken from the TARDIS' wardrobe. She wasn't normally one for dresses—cargo pants and tank tops were more her speed—but she and the Detective had decided to try and make a proper date out of this. Of course, knowing him, he'd probably show up in his tattered coat as always, but she was trying, dammit.

Not that this was a date-date. Just a... semi-more-romantic leadup to another night together.

They weren't dating.

That would be silly.

The Aviator tucked a silver hair comb into the braided bun at the back of her head and frowned. Why was she going to all this trouble when it would all get pulled loose in tonight's activities?

She didn't want to look nice for him or anything. He certainly wasn't going to go to the same effort.

It just felt like the thing to do, that was all. That was it.

The TARDIS hummed in amusement and the Aviator gestured at the ceiling with her middle finger. "Shut it, you," she said. "It's not a date. And I'll thank you to not bother us while we're busy!"

The TARDIS rumbled again, but fell silent.

There was a quick rapping on the door, and the Aviator's head whipped around when she smelled Zeb on the other side. "Don't co—!"

"I'm just letting you know I'm borrowing the OH MY GOSH ARE YOU GOING ON A DATE TONIGHT IS THE DETECTIVE COMING OVER ARE YOU TWO GONNA KISS?!" Zeb squeed, his mane poofing out as sparks flew from his fur. He bounced in a small circle in the doorway before sprinting away. "I'M BORROWING THE X-BOX DON'T MIND ME OKAY BYE!"

The Aviator groaned and let her head hit the dresser. So much for keeping the not-date secret.

Now, let's see how much I remember. {= D Starting with who I've been thinking about the most recently:

Derik: Red/White/Black. You, and he himself, would probably think the White would come first, what with how much he cares about order, protection, justice, and all that good stuff. However, it's his emotions that make him go, and sometimes go too far, which is what Red is all about. And occasionally, the influence of Black makes him pretty dang scary.

Gall: Red again, but this time Red/Green. Green thinks what it has is pretty great, and it can always get bigger and better. If you mess with it, it will unleash the wrath of nature on you. Gall knows she's pretty great, and if you mess with her, she will unleash the wrath of a Monstrous Nightmare on you. Or she'll do whatever because she feels like it, because Red. Life's an adventure, yo! (I understand Red/Green is the color pair of dragons in MTG, so yeah, go figure.)

Nume: Primary Blue, because Blue is all about the mind, knowledge, and memory. Secondary White, because rules, order, and protection. Nume does what he does because he knows he's the smartest man in the room, and he knows he's right, and he doesn't need anybody else's approval, dammit.

Ilraen: Yes, he's Blue. But it's not his primary. Ilraen is actually doing the White/Red thing properly: doing the Right Thing because it is Right, and it Feels Good to Do Good, and you Don't Mess With Family. He's all heart—but with a side of wicked smart that will come up and catch you by surprise if you're not paying attention, which is where the tertiary Blue comes in. Plus he likes tinkering with technology. So, White/Red/Blue.

Jenni: ... I don't even know, to be honest. Like, I'd think White/Green, maybe White/Green/Red, but it's not right. She's not really about the group (Green/White is ALL about the group), she's about individuals and feelings and relationships and family (Red), and being incredibly psychic (Blue) but keeping it in check because morals and rules (White), and basically just making things better (also Blue?). Maybe she's our actual Red/White/Blue character? Phobos, help me out!

~Neshomeh

So, because the shipfest thread is somewhere down the page I thought I'd link the prompt in with it (because, yes I do pay attention to the rest of the board).
This fortnight's prompt is:

"(At least) One of your characters is preparing for/on a date"

I will actually post a prompt reply this time I swear. (and hopefully it'll be prompt-ly ba-dum tsh)

Nova

It just depends on the version of Batman you are looking at. Some versions are more detective-centric than others, and more Blue because of it.

-Phobos

Brightbeard - Brightbeard likes everything to be neat, orderly, and structured. This puts him solidly in White, as does his strong moral compass. He also values tradition, community, and growth, which makes his second color Green. I can't really get a read on a third color, so White-Green will have to work.

Barid - Barid is kind of ruled by his emotions and he's a bit of a force of Chaos. That makes him a good foil to his partner and it also puts him in Red. His methods (poisoning and shadow magic), as well as the fact that he is only in business for himself, makes him Black. If he has a third color, it is probably Blue. He's smarter than he looks and does have a love of maps and exploration. So, I'll go with Red-Black-Blue for Barid.

Decima - So, we've got a Slytherin. That means ambition, and ambition means Black, right? Well, that's definite in there, it is tertiary for her. Her strongest color is White, because she wants systems and order (she once apologized for the state of her room when there was a single sock out of place). Her second color is Green because she is inflexible in her world-view, as seen by her inability to accept how exorcisms work because the process doesn't conform to her views of magic. She has such a hard time with things in the couple of missions she has, because the PPC has given a major blow to her view of the world, and she is slow to adjust to that. White-Green-Black

-Phobos

I would have pegged Blue as Batman's primary, but what you said makes more sense. Thanks!

Batman is all about Justice, which is a White ideal. How he goes about getting that Justice (fear and intimidation) is decidedly against the law, which is fairly Black. There is also a fair amount of high-technology and detective work, so I would put him in Blue for a tertiary.

Batman - White-Black-Blue

Lex Luthor is out for his own advancement, no matter the cost or legality, so based in Black. However, he uses the fact that he is a "legitimate businessman", as well as using the systems of justice, to shield himself and his nefarious schemes, which is surprisingly White. He is also a very intelligent, very resourceful man, which is Blue.

Lex Luthor - Black-White-Blue

Bonus: Catwoman is only out for herself and her cats. The world doesn't care about her, so she doesn't care about it. So she's based in Black. However, she is also smart and ridiculously skilled at what she does, and that actually falls under Blue. However, there is also a little part of her that wants to be the good guy, that wants (certain kinds of) bad guys to be brought to justice, and that means White.

Catwoman - Black-Blue-White

What are Batman and Luthor's colors?