This is what I and probably several others are worried about. You aren't dispelling a bogeyman. You're causing another incident and proving the people worried about your behavior right. Could things have been handled better? Probably. But making the same mistakes again and again after they have been patiently and impatiently explained to you is not the fault of the community. That every other thread involving you in recent weeks has gotten bad enojugh that punishments had to be considered is not the fault of the community.
You feel you should defend yourself. But you've been on the attack for most of this thread. You seem to want the community to validate Zdimensia's actions and say that what happened before was wrong. This is simply not the case.
Your question on why your first permission request was denied is answered in that thread, in the post denying it. HS has posted it further down the chat, but the summary was that your request was incomplete and you weren't prepared. When it was denied, you made changes in the same thread instead of taking time to revise and reconsider.
You are showing disrespect by saying that the reason why someone, in this case Skarmory, is distrusting you is because of issues in their past, (Apologies to Skarmory if this comes out as rude) rather than because of your behavior. To make this matter clear, I have issues trusting you because of how you have behaved.
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Re: I will not stop yet, sorry. by
on 2017-05-27 00:58:00 UTC
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From the Discord, I mean... (nm) by
on 2017-05-27 00:52:00 UTC
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You were, and still are, banned. by
on 2017-05-27 00:52:00 UTC
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Why am I not surprised that you seem to struggle with this concept?
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Me too, strangely enough. (nm) by
on 2017-05-27 00:31:00 UTC
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I cannot Discord. by
on 2017-05-26 23:36:00 UTC
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I left the channel because I harassed someone. I cannot privately poke you without an invite to the PPC channel. I tried, and the software rejected me.
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I will not stop yet, sorry. by
on 2017-05-26 23:09:00 UTC
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I feel that I should defend myself. I feel like I should dispel the zdimensia bogyman. I have accomplished that the mistakes have been acknowledged. I feel that this is not closed yet.
I acknowledge that my presence made your introduction to the PPC rocky. I acknowledge that I remind you of past mistakes.
I do not want the PPC as a sounding board for anything other than writing problems. Though it was because of them that I discovered that there might still be something wrong with me.
I apologize for all the beta problems. I especially apologize to Skarmory for jumping-the-gun, and I have learned from that at least.
You are under no obligation to help me, even after the Duckletts are in a row. I'll look for a support group or something. I mean that with no malice, and you are welcome to choose to contact me.
For the fear of potential backlash: You are saying it clearly and should not be chastised.
I am still very confused at what went wrong in my initial permission attempt.
Maybe I didn't ask people to make themselves clearer in the proper way. Maybe there was a preconception that I should be angry when I knew that I wasn't going to make it on my first attempt.
I am also confused about a lot of what you are accusing me of. I might have missed responding to concrit. Or did I do it wrong? In my mind, it's "I agree with you. I'll work more on that thing that you pointed out." There has been very little "I'll leave it as-is because of reasons" on the board.
I do remember asking why they took a void and assumed malice, in reference to one of my characters. I still don't understand.
I think that it was your subconscious making you distrust me. Either you recognized me, or you recognized yourself.
I am still unaware of when I was disrespectful and what I should apologize for.
As far as harassing them, I was unaware of that social construct, and thought that they were being rude. What I was after was information on what I should apologize to them for. I have learned from that. I think that the board also learned from that.
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I'm writing my fic again! by
on 2017-05-26 22:49:00 UTC
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I have a RWBY fic on AO3 that's been lagging for a while, but I finally got back into the swing of writing it!
Also, I have never responded to one of these before, so I don't know how they work, exactly.
When I was like five years old snake was the COOLEST thing to me. Also, so were cellphones, because I was five and they had all of these BUTTONS.
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Good question. by
on 2017-05-26 22:38:00 UTC
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Does anyone remember that conversation about a misspelling of "Bristol" "Bristle" in a Harry Potter fic?
There was an argument of whether it should be a paintbrush, somehow connecting it to the real world.
Or there was an argument that it should be a mini-arogog, like in the Harry Potter series.
I think that the answer was either never found, or the answer was "whatever is funny."
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I wanted to. by
on 2017-05-26 22:20:00 UTC
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I wanted to use my other team. I just didn't consider who my mains were, and my mains don't live in the same RC. I didn't know that I could use the team that I was going to work with first.
I ended up having to abandon the Larry and Samantha team because they just didn't work.
I tried to talk about the problem I was having.
I think that the PG thought I was only going to do two things with my permission pair and then never look at them again.
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All this begs the question... by
on 2017-05-26 22:07:00 UTC
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...Why not just use a different character, then? I know I come up with so many different concepts so often I did like two things with my original permission pair and then never looked at them again.
(I'll probably reboot that spinoff eventually though, once I think of a story worth telling with them.)
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Yes. by
on 2017-05-26 21:58:00 UTC
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I am wondering again if Samantha was a good choice of character, but I like her. Perhaps the bad choice is dealing with Legacy of Kain within the context of the PPC.
(There are humorus fics in the LOK universe, but most of them are good. Most of the bad LOK fanfictions are taking themselves seriously.)
Having Samantha chase children is like letting a wolf loose in a deer pen and not expecting something horrible to happen.
((I know that Wolf Park in Lafayette, IN lets the wolves loose in the bison pen. The wolves are fed and trained, and I haven't heard of any accidents where the bison were seriously hurt.))
Samantha is not like my cat, who continues to bring dead dragonflies into the house for no reason other than boredom.
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I accept your point. by
on 2017-05-26 21:47:00 UTC
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I'll even agree with it.
My point, in turn, is that I feel banning is supposed to be used on people who are actively malevolent - who are deliberately trying to cause trouble. I don't know that I feel zdimensia/Bramandin has ever come across that way.
But I also think she should leave. I guess I want it both ways - I want the PPC community to have a set of shared values, but I don't like the idea of kicking out people who don't share them. ("Recognising when you're in the wrong," in this case.)
I don't know.
hS
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Prompts are supposed to show... by
on 2017-05-26 21:43:00 UTC
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... that you understand how to write for the PPC. In this story, I showed that I could pair serious issues with humour, without dismissing the serious part, but also without letting it override the humour. Precisely how well I did that is open for interpretation, I suppose.
Given that you told Neshomeh you couldn't write your vampire chasing children "unless you like dead baby jokes" (paraphrasing), I am not inclined to believe your description here.
hS
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Torchship, bilateral symmetry, psychology. [Thumbs up] (nm) by
on 2017-05-26 21:40:00 UTC
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... ah, bother. by
on 2017-05-26 21:38:00 UTC
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Okay, there's two problems there. One was Webs, which I've fixed. The other... is that FfW is built on Google Drive javascript and CSS files, which are no longer available.
This... may not be easy to fix.
Individual stories are still accessible; the addresses take this format:
http://fanfic_land.webs.com/FfW/Story21-1.htm
I think I may just make a link repository for both sites, and then move the next Badfic Games (that I feel up to archiving) to a third site. One that Liechtenstein can't find and sabotage.
hS
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I also has question =IyI= by
on 2017-05-26 21:19:00 UTC
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(Not sure if this should have been a new thread... best not to bump stuff, right?)
(Maybe add this to the FAQ?) I'd like to know rules about starting RPs. More detailed description on the talk page.
http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:FAQ:TheBoard#Aquestiontoaskandtoadd
-Twistey
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Oh, phew, good. Not the Ozzie/Ocelot I was thinking of. (nm) by
on 2017-05-26 21:16:00 UTC
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My thoughts. by
on 2017-05-26 21:14:00 UTC
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*picks up the mini-boarder* (My name's Narnian, so it looks like a dragon.) ((Non-sequitur, look up my name, and you might find a wiki article that explains why I chose it.))
I do intend to ask to have my IP temporarily re-blocked after this thread is finished. (If that's not too much trouble.) Not as a silencing or punishment, but as a precautionary measure until I heal. Just as you would put a cast on an arm to keep it from moving until the bone knits.
I think that banning me would be bad for the community, to set up a precedent of rejecting people with mental health issues.
((It would also symbolize that the community values protecting itself above all else, even a person's life. The way to make up for the past mistake is to give me an honest second chance.))
I do need to leave for a while. Not really a ban, no clock, just to go fix myself before I try to be part of the community. I realize that if I am disruption, (on my future actions, not because of the past,) it would then be right to remove me.
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Obscure Mini problems. by
on 2017-05-26 20:28:00 UTC
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So in Iximaz's mission to Rose Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, a mini of Halloween (the holiday) was created.
It manifested in the form of a Jack-o'-lantern with the misspelled name carved into it. Halloween (the holiday) is not a continuum, so there can be no fan fiction or OFUs written in it.
In addition, Iximaz says that not only is the mini-jack-o'-lantern not their idea, but they also do not remember whos it is. If I wanted to add this to the Minis page on the wiki, what should I do?
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I started a ridiculously long fanfic project! (nm) by
on 2017-05-26 20:27:00 UTC
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Uh, hS, while I've got your attention... by
on 2017-05-26 20:16:00 UTC
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...there's something wrong with the Fanfic Land and Fanfic World links. Specifically, of the links under "Links" on this page, only the third one works. None of the stories are accessible.
~Z
PS: The table, on the other hand, is working well and is very, very fun. It's also made me realize that half of my agent pages (or so) are several years out of date, which...I mean, I knew some of them were a little out of date, but I didn't know they were that out of date. Whoops? Anyhow, the table's been fun.
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Arguments... by
on 2017-05-26 20:06:00 UTC
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I'm not trying to flame. I just lack the language to state my interpretation; I lack the language to make it easy for the other person to correct it.
The response I wanted was, "This is why this isn't true."
I think I'm getting hung up on the difference between "didn't do anything wrong." "There wasn't a mistake." Or "This didn't affect the receiving party."
I am embracing that there was an accident. I am embracing that my misunderstandings turned a small problem into a big one.
Once other people acknowledged that they made a mistake... I might have been slow to accept it.
I admit that I was mirroring the community's attitude when I rejected Neshome's apology. She didn't deserve that, and I am sorry.
I was under stress for days. Non-sequiturs do not feel disconnected to me.
I felt that the myth you built up wasn't giving me a fair shot. I felt that the preconception that I was a troll prevented you from trying to hear what I was trying to say. I thought that Bramandin was doing somewhat well.
About the inability to be clear, I am working on it. I had this conversation with a stranger. https://docs.google.com/document/d/10EPxperH4W5zyuQSJb2eoE1-ZowUa8dFiQZ5DdrmYfE/edit?usp=sharing It was rather spooky.
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Awesome! (nm) by
on 2017-05-26 20:02:00 UTC
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