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The problem is when it's done badly. I think it's cool when characters are best friends with Legolas or marry Caspian or any of the other things you mentioned. But it has to make sense. The girl who's a better wizard than Dumbledore should show it off and do something really cool and impressive. Sues usually just have a character SAY they're better than Dumbledore. The character who blows up the Super Double Death Star should have some big action-y sequence where they work as hard as they can and come out as a hero for it. Sues just have it happen. I don't need every story to be a cerebral look at the flaws of man and his failings. Heroes are allowed to just be cool. They're heroes after all. But the difference between a Mary Sue and a hero is that the hero earns the title and makes me like them.

The girl who does backflips is fine though, because that's legitimately impressive, and Legolas is a smart elf for recognizing that.

But here is the thing.
Take on look at my old whitewash representation of New Orleans and tell me that it's okay to show a mostly black city with a deep black history as Asian.

Take a look at all the bad ocs who use mental disabilities and illnesses as accessories to excuse their wrong doings or make them edgy and tell me that's okay.

The importance of sues and stus is that they are just a stage. An unavoidable stage that one must grow out of in order to let true characters and truly important characters shine through.

*Tosses NM&Ms*

At least make the invitation TARDIS Blue and send me one :P

Instead of wasting your energy on us, why don't you take it and put it to use teaching the world not to tell girls that they're nothing? Then, according to this essay, they won't write godawful Mary Sues anymore, and maybe fiction in general will improve so that the next kid with a Barnes & Noble gift card will fall in love with a book that actually deserves it. Everybody wins!

Though, I'm pretty sure my own terrible writing had nothing to do with feeling undervalued, because I wasn't and I knew it. Also, this doesn't address boys creating godawful Gary Stus, which we also don't like. Just saying.

~Neshomeh

Though I will be wearing these.

In TARDIS Blue dress?

(Don't ask how, it's timey-wimey.)

It involves you walking down (up?) the aisle to 'bu-du-ba-bum, bu-du-ba-bum, OOO-EEE-OOO...'

And it is glorious.

hS

It's funny, honestly, because the original character Mary Sue from Star Trek was a parody of the concept itself.

It therefore follows that any Mary Sue is just as bad as the characters created for Star Trek which inspired the parody in the first place. In short: We're not going to listen to you.

Not that it matters. I'm going to assume that you just posted this in a flash of anger and then disappeared into the ether to provoke us, with the exception of the troll comment. After all, you know we're not going to stop doing what we do: Writing good stories to show others how it's done and how to improve.

S oI just wantd to sho the bestets most canin ship in the POC, so I hope you liek!

~~~

Ix relaxed in her RC reading a book.

And then suddenly, Charloote burst in the door! “HEY IX I GOT A PRESENT FOR U!”

Ix looked up from her book. “What prestnt? It’s not my brithday.

And then Charlotte bounded up superfast and kissed her. “It’s meeeeeeeee!”

“Butbutut your a vampire1 How am I supposed to do lovey things with w vamirpe from Tsilight/“

“Simple! First we” And teh rest of thes convo was sencored by the Folating Hyacitnh, becuase its TOO SEXY 4 TV

And Ix just blushed and blusehd and bleushd the lgoner ang longr Charlotte talked and seid “Can we jst kiss 4 now? Yore the best girl ever butI dutn thing I’m ready for all the stuff yuo talkin about.”

“KISSING IS COOL”

And then there aws lots of huggnig and skising.

((What is wrong with me. I do ship this, but not quite to this extent =P))

...since Doctor Who is what brought us together, it's only fitting we theme the wedding around it.

Your points are valid. Your opinion is valid. They simply aren't relevant to us.

We are not enemies. We are all fans. PPC authors and writers of Mary Sues are both fans. Yes, we have different ways of expressing our fandom love in our writing, but we are not enemies. We have no problem with other authors writing Mary Sues; after all, writing missions is part of our setting and tradition! Our goal is not to cause less writing to be made overall, but more writing, and better writing, by transforming poor writing into a completely different story that celebrates what we love about the original canon.

—doctorlit, from his cousin's bed on Long Island

I can assure you nobody in this lesser-known forum will be moved by your lengthy troll essays.

(Also, hey, November 23's my birthday!)

Now I can sit and sink into the world of English magic once again, and it shall be the most glorious. Plus, more money for Susanna Clark, which is nice. =]

Not sure how you're supposed to tell the color of something that's always a glowing bluish-white, but I love ginger tabbies, so I consider it a win!

Shame...

a) it's not yours, per Delta Juliette.

b) you're probably the same Tor-using troll as posted the (deleted) reply to this, which is just attention-seeking.

c) it doesn't apply to the PPC. We have never, ever, ever shamed anyone for writing Suvians. Said they should do better, yes. Explained what the problems with the character are, yes. Done both of those with snarky voices, yes. But shamed them? Never.

hS

(Also: November 23rd? I see what you did there, you crazy people. ^_^)

hS

But I'm glad to hear you're on your way to feeling better about it. You've been nothing but lovely to me, and I should hope karma smiles on you for it.

...you should at least cite your sources. As far as I can tell, this was originally written by UnWinona, on their tumblr.