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Only admins can delete pages. Maybe Nesh or hS can take care of it.

(Also: “donb’t”.)

Alternatively, you could get either of them to give you admin priviledges.

—Ls, who’s an admin on another wiki.

Looks like I donb't have the authorizations to delete it myself. I've unlinked it from all other pages and deleted all its contents, though, so if someone who can can nuke it I would be happy.

(My old blog post on the wiki can be nuked as well - I have no idea why I posted it here in the first place since it has nothign to do with the PPC)

In fact, I think I had already nuked most of my Suvian pages in the past - I think only the one about "Thunder 2" remains, as I wanted to keep it as it was the first air-to-air kill involving fighter jets in PPC history, and so I thought it was notable enough. But in hindsight, it really isn't. so I'm gonna nuke it pretty much as soon as I post this. Consider my part of the Suvian page cleanup done!

Spinoff name wise I'm good, I've been using "Wings of Canon" for mine for years, and even gave one to Keiko's (Wings of Canon: Second Strike), so when the time comes I'm ready for that as well. Only question to me now is, would Blank Sprite warrant its own page, either as a story or an incident? I'm pretty sure World Without Authors does, as it is a sort of alternate apocalypse timeline (and was included by hS in his multiverse analysis stuff), but Blank Sprite is in that weird place more than a mission, but less than a proper emergency.

Kaguya is found, but the group discovers something rather nasty in their path that involves a canon character and a mouse.

Sections: That's a very different concept to what I was imagining, huh. It's also a lot more work. Is anyone realistically going to go through Tawaki's spinoff and write a full synopsis for every mission?

An intermediate option might be a table format, with link - timeline - published - summary. (Or, to avoid the Issues with tables, add the summary as a second sub-bullet under the link.)

"Story": Could be called Summary? This is the counterpart to Agent History. It doesn't have to have a cohesive plot, but also doesn't have to go into detail when 'they take several missions into different canons' is the overall plot. TOS would be some expansion of: They take on LotR missions. Over time these get longer, and they interact with HQ more, up to and including a BBQ. Then they get transferred to DIC because Tangled Webs, fumble about a bit there, and move back to DMS. Jay starts getting missions with other agents, and eventually when Acacia retires she is repartnered with Rhus.

Spoilers: See very first point; I was seeing this as somewhere a new reader might land, not as a compilation of all information about the spinoff.

Spin-off: because I think "Spin-off Story" looks clumsy. :-( Acacia used both, in back-to-back sentences no less, but mostly "spinoff".

hS

What if: Each episode gets its own section with link, timeline/publication info, and synopsis? 'Cause my concept was very definitely that I wanted these pages to answer questions like "which story was the one where X happened?" ^_^;

Also, I don't think most spin-offs have an overall story, per se. At least, mine don't. They have a few character arcs, but they're not aiming at a definite end the same way a TV show is. I can think of a few sentences about recurring themes for each, but I'm not sure how I'd describe the "story" of either. Doesn't help that they're both ongoing, too.

For a not-me example, I don't think TOS works that way, either.

Re. spoilers, I feel like that can be taken for granted, so the pages don't need hats; maybe a single line of text in the lede as a reminder, if anything. Plus, there are other sources for plain links, such as agent pages (which also may contain spoilers by default) and the Complete List of PPC Fiction.

(Also, why go against internal consistency with "spin-off"? It's listed as the primary spelling in any dictionary I look at...?)

~Neshomeh

But without any swearing.

Once David Null switches partners, what do I do on the "The Complete List of PPC Fiction?" Should I wait until David Null and K get to the number of missions David Null and Paye have endured, or should I seperate them (in a sense) and list David Null with x missions, K with Y missions, and Paye with x-y missions (or, to play with actual numbers (including the unpublished mission 3 and planned missions 6 and 7), David with 7, K with 1, and Paye with 6)?

-kA, hoping that this makes sense.

I always wait for you, because I know that there are errors I missed. Thanks for pointing them out! They should be fixed now!

Not exactly going for the "minimalist stage play vibes," but, considering that I'm acting in such a play and have acted in such a play before (twice, I think: once was Check, Please! where the only resemblence of setting one had was in the hall in front of the auditorium, and the stage only had two tables, four chairs, and a piano played by a piano person. The other was The Crucible, but that barely (or doesn't!) counts because of the sheer size of the cast.), so I could've given those vibes and, to be honest, I like those vibes from the story.

Pffff. Paye has a thing for spooky stuff, especially since she was only in Dream Girlfriend for like two minutes. A lot of stuff in her home canon are pretty, not really spooky, and the things that are spooky she didn't experience. And she likes experiencing new things. If you recall, Paye likes 1984 because of "how dry and pessimistic it [is]," and she thinks gardian is "kinda cute, I guess?" So of course Paye would love, effectively, a mini giant spider.

The spider joke was actually (and may still) be joked around in the next mission before I decided to give David a new partner. I'm thinking about writing one more mission with this trio, though (and I still have Mission 3 to rewrite lol).

-kA

I still check the post in case any more added their agents, but work got busy so I couldn't really respond. =)

Doc can have a book with an inset jewel or something, and Mellon can attempt to steal that? I am planning to have a bunch of agents chase after him, but the things he steals have to be somewhat easy to carry for a crow and a whole book might be pushing his limits.

/Ekwy, not jealous at all, hoping you have fun, plotting to attend a US Gathering in the future maybe

...to the list of cameos, but work got intense over the past few days and I got very busy. XD

Escher room is good! Don't have a cameo staged there yet so that gives me ideas.

/Ekwy

(Not to you, Linstar, just wanted this at the top of the thread.)

For agents who have been declared out-of-continuity by their authors, it's probably best to avoid adding archival links for missing stories. They have often been removed for a good reason.

(This message brought to you by the recent recovery of an Agent Rosedale story. It's partly my fault, because I was asked to blank July's agent pages back in 2018 but missed the Building Maintenance ones. I've gone through and removed all remaining links, including the recovered one, so hopefully we won't hit this issue again.)

hS

It reads like a page for a series, between the synopsis and the important characters and all of that. My brain's telling me it would be really cool if the links to the spinoffs could be arranged like the episode charts of a TV show from Wikipedia, but I don't know if Fandom offers that sort of functionality with its charts, and it's literally just a cosmetic thing. Might look into it for E and C's spin-off page, then...

Tales from DOGA, because it's the one I could do off the top of my head.

I've treated "spin-off" as the Wiki technical term (so the new category is "PPC Spin-offs"), but have felt free to use my preferred "Spinoff" in the article itself.

Unusually, I've structured the article with the list of links first. My reasoning is that you're not going to this page for the plot summary - you're going because you want to read the spinoff. For plot details, you're mostly looking for a specific agent, so you'd go to their page. Also, it allows me to use the Spoiler tag on the plot without you having to scroll past it to find the links.

I feel like the structure works, but I'm open to negotiation; and if there's anything else we think needs to be on there, just shout out!

hS

Oh, I like the approach you took with depicting this mission! An absolute void, with only what's described by the narrative present, gives me minimalist stage play vibes. Rain's appearance and dialogue, and the plural clones popping in and out of existence, add to the spooky, unsettling atmosphere of wrongness, and something lacking. I do love that you have Potter escape basically instantly once the Suefluence has ended. Of COURSE he would, especially if Rain hadn't bothered to take his wand away!

I love that Paye is so unfazed by the huge spider that she just treats it like a pet! I especially like picturing her carrying it around the response center in her arms . . . It makes Matt's reaction funnier, too!

Some typos, I believe:
"'As long as we hide the the shadows and don't make a —-ing fool out of ourselves, we should be fine.'"
An extra "the," which is probably supposed to be "in?"

"David instinctively closed his eyes and heard Paye gagged."
". . . heard Paye gag."

—doctorlit thinks that void just needs a few well-stocked bookshelves to feel like home

Doc and Vania will certainly still be around!

Doc
DF
He/him
Short brown hair, Caucasian, collared shirts and cargo shorts
Shy, quiet, reads constantly
Books probably aren't shiny by a crow's standards, but you're welcome to have Mellon steal his, if need be. This will make Doc get angry and desperate to get it back, though!

Vania
DF
She/her
Black hair in a ponytail, Japanese, pinstripe suit and pants
Confident, in an easygoing way. Talkative, and excited to try new things.
Nothing shiny but her personality, alas!

Neither leave HQ very frequently, but they can be just about anywhere in HQ's public spaces. Just please, if you're going to set them in a restaurant/bar, don't depict them drinking alcohol.

—doctorlit, about to pack up for the Chicago gathering!

"What the RC number again?" K asked, in an attempt to distract himself.

"Hyperbola," David Null replied.

"Yes, I know that," K said, "but what is the number?"

"Uhhhh," David said. K glared at him. Qnza it. "It's, uh, one equals ex-squared over- no, wait, one equals the quanity of ex-squared over ay-squared minus- no no, wait, one equals y-squared- no, qnzzit-"

"Oh look, we're here," K said, pointing at their RC door.

"Why did you have me shpxing say it, then?!" David asked.

"It's a distraction to listen to you try and say it," K responded. "And you shouldn't curse so often! It's unhealthy, especially around little kids!"

Something like that, but probably funnier, to be honest.

-kA

...that’s the most you can get in a disagreement.

But, really, who reads the TVTropes review pages anyway? (Not me.)

—Ls

I'm too short on time to make a proper story right now (plus most of my Nursery kids would be around 20 years old by 2022, and I have other adult agents I haven't properly introduced yet). But as for my main pair: Vania would try to get competitive over it, but Doc would refuse to put his book away, and only has 40% of his mind on paddling, and DEFINITELY isn't watching where the boat is going.

—doctorlit wonders where SkarmorySilver's agents are; they tend to do well with foot-related activities

I did try and reason with them but to no real avail. The least I can say is they were polite and explained their reasoning, flawed as it was, which is better then what I’m used to dealing with on fan sites.

Sounds like I need to read some of your fans' stories to get the full picture!

—doctorlit on lunch break

...”Click-One-One-One” or “Exclamation mark!-One-One-One”. Named ironically after this badfic phenomenon, of course.

Huh, 1111 is available? Maybe I’ll give that to my Troll Division agents.

—Ls, facetiously.

(Huh, 1111 is actually available...)

More seriously: How do you pronounce !111, and how do you spell it out in dialogue? "Bang-One-One-One"? "Click-Eleventy-One"? "Eleven-Eleven but the first digit is an exclamation mark"?

But at least it's not too much of a stretch to say that one out loud some kind of way. Getting around Headquarters is tricky enough without needing to take five minutes to explain what your RC is even called. And this works fine in an ICEP address, too.

In sum: It's still a functional label, so I don't hate it. I just don't get the appeal.

~Neshomeh

Also, to Nesh, it's not like I haven't been labeling mission numbers based off of how many missions David Null has done, anyways. I would've felt a little miffed if you labeled it "David and Paye's Missions" because a) Paye is soon to be not David's partner anymore, and b) you don't have David Null's full name there lol.¹

¹Not that you'd forget David Null's last name normally, but you said "out of spite" and that's the easiest way to make me really wanna fix it.

-kA, not upset.