Though I like the part where it says Sues are feeding on canon characters, I don't agree that Sues need to feed on canon characters because their authors can't publish their work officially. There's plenty of (officially) published fiction where there are Sues in the story.
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Theory of Mary Sues as parasites. by
on 2010-06-10 07:57:00 UTC
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When I'm reading PPC missions and looking up multiple bad fics, I'm starting to notice a possible motive to why Mary Sues are twisting canon. The Scientific Theory of Suvian Origins may have established the "what" of Mary Sue but there's a missing vital piece of information, the "why" and their motives.
My guess is that Mary Sues are incomplete beings who can't self-substain themselves unlike canon characters. They lacked a vital part that makes anyone canon, gifted by authors. Canon is like a heart for a body to pump energy to survive. Canon is the essence of life and existence, I called this the "canon factor".
Mary Sues lacked the canon factor because their creators, the Suethors, can't publish their fics officially due to copyrights, thus they are posted as fanfiction. Without the canon factor, they slowly starve and if not fed, they die. This can only be slowed down just by being acknowledged by the Suthor herself but that won't be enough to ensure the sue's survival. Even with powers and/or the perfection, they are weak as characters for canon because canonical works rejects them because their involvement in most continua would harm their figurative structure as established universes.
The main method of surviving is to feed on canon energy. Usually, that energy can't bleed out by normal means but there's multiple methods to do that, interfere and/or twist canon through meddling canon affairs. Their acts of unholy uncanonized crimes usually affects the inhabitants, usually main characters but that also effects locations too. Ergo, canon energy bleeds off from the victims and the sue absorbs the energy, ensuring her survival in a disguise of a canon character. If the sue's powerful, she needs more energy. Should this be left untouched, the results would be catastrophic such as becoming a dry husk or a twisted mockery of itself or worse, cease to exist.
As for slash fics without Mary Sues, they are there alright but comes in a different form. Two sub-species called the author-wraith and the other is a clone called a Replacement Sue. Although they are different, the methods are the same. The victim of these monsters are "popular" characters, usually handsome or cute ones, beings with plenty of canon energy, enough to substain a canon location. Their ways are through pseudo affection and sex. Having sex with a sue is a very bad idea because no matter the gender, it drains the victim's energy quickly than the orgasms. These two are extremely dangerous so it is best is exorcisms for author-wraiths and assassinations for replacements.
To remedy these problems, the PPC has to do their jobs in order keep continua alive and healthy. Once the sue has been killed, the canon energy they stole return to their rightful owners as if they never step foot there in the first place.
This is one of many parts of this theory. I will write more about this in deeper topics such as the bond between Sues and Suethors.
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Ethics by
on 2010-06-10 05:37:00 UTC
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My understanding about the PPC is that it is less author specific (since we don't link the original author the story, and don't ever particularly plan for the original author to find missions) and more about generally sporking particularly bad works. From that position, the only criteria for fics would be ones that would be /fun/ to do missions for.
That said, if the author disliked the work enough to delete it (I actually would have left a bad fic up to just to show how far I've come) they would probably be upset that someone else put it back up, in whatever form.
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As I understand it... by
on 2010-06-10 05:18:00 UTC
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The missions that were written for deleted stories were being written when it was deleted.
Also, if the author has learned the error of their ways then it is our job to acknowledge that and not drag up their past mistakes. If the author removed it because they realize it was bad, then I think it would be best to let it be.
Those are my thoughts on the matter.
-Barid
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PPC ethics by
on 2010-06-10 05:01:00 UTC
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I was going through my stash of downloaded 'fics recently, and I came across the first ever H/D slashfic I ever read. For nostalgia's sake, I started skimming it, and realized very quickly that these days it was something I would much rather PPC than read. However, when I went looking for it online, all I found was a note from the author saying that she had taken it down and moved on. I know deleted 'fics have been PPCed before, but I also seem to recall an ethical note stating that it's in bad taste to PPC stories whose authors understood how bad they were.
I had a couple thoughts about how to deal with it, the main one being the author-wraith exorcising herself and knocking sense into the canons on her own. It's been done with assassinations, and I think I could make it work for an exorcism. Alternatively, I could just do a deleted-story drama, much like the one found in the JAAKSONS, among others, and ignore the exorcism altogether. My first inclination is for the first, but I could manage either.
What do the rest of you think about the ethics of this situation? Should I go for it at all, or should I just look around for another H/D badfic? (It's not like there's any lack of them. Heck, I've written several myself...)
(For the record, the mission coming from this probably won't be out for a while. I'm planning a story-arc for Sarah and Elaina at the moment, so we have a couple to go before getting here, but oh well. It's nice to plan ahead.)
--anamia
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Note: some adult parts by
on 2010-06-10 04:38:00 UTC
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But they are usually warned, and you can see them coming, so you can avoid them if you like.
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Epic Doctor Who goodfic! by
on 2010-06-10 04:27:00 UTC
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I don't remember anyone plugging this on the board before, and I am therefore remedying that now.
This is hands-down the best Doctor Who fic I've ever read twice. It's Ten/Rose, and it's kidfic, and it /works/. Even if you don't like kidfic, it works.
Midway through the second season of NuWho, Rose gets pregnant, and life in the Tardis gets a whole new dimension. The canon chronology is derailed, of course, but watch for familiar faces popping up in different times and places.
Everyone is in character, even the children. Earlgreytea68 has them perfect. If you want your heartstrings tugged in a wonderful way, spend a few hours with this story:
http://earlgreytea68.livejournal.com/82528.html
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Canonicity of EU Material by
on 2010-06-10 03:12:00 UTC
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Only speaking of Star Wars here, but there is actually a proper system for how canonical some of the EU material is. Wildly-AU works don't count as canon, but unfortunately even some of the worst of the books *cough*Crystal Star*cough* do count as canon.
See our wiki article or the Wookieepedia article for more details.
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PaPaZ (...that acronym spells something. Not cool.) by
on 2010-06-10 03:10:00 UTC
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Pride and Prejudice and Zombies had the potential to be funny. Most of those things do. I just wish the authors would show a bit more creativity about it--a lot of the lines sounded like they were quoted directly from the book. It's like the minor badfic genre-- "I'm too lazy to make my own plot, so I'll just write the canon in story form." Only found in visual-media genres, especially manga and anime.
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Well... by
on 2010-06-10 03:04:00 UTC
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Ahhh... Stupid after-series. With some, it's not so bad, but with popular series and classics, it can get pretty bad.
Curiously enough, LOTR has never gotten that treatment. Probably because LOTR practically defines fantasy. You just can't do anything more. With Dune, though, it just went way too far, and don't even get me started on Star Wars. Prequels, sequels, alternate-historequels... Ugh. Little more than published badfic. I'm surprised there aren't lame AUs and Bad Slash books.
I agree with what Cliever said; they're a divergent canon that includes the original but is not included in the original. Unless they're just horribly, disgustingly lame--then they're in a category all their own, specifically for despising. Like the later Dune spinoffs. And most of the Star Wars spinoffs.
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I rate Zombies by
on 2010-06-10 02:46:00 UTC
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Totally not canon, but entertainingly bizarre. Whether the spawned sequels and imitators stay as entertaining remains to be seen.
The only way I think I could ever get through Middlemarch is if they added some form of monsters to it. Glaurung, but that's a boring book.
Elcalion
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Morph armor? by
on 2010-06-10 02:44:00 UTC
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Sounds like fun!
On the other hand, none of my Agents (well, Agent concepts) is a morpher. Do you mind if I steal it into one of my original fics, or is it PPC-limited?
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I've heard an interesting rumor about the evil!Jacen plot by
on 2010-06-10 02:29:00 UTC
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Basically, the rumor is that Anakin was supposed to swap roles with Jacen, and then George Lucas decided that idea was a stupid idea. It does explain a lot about the structuring of the character arcs prior to Anakin's death. Dunno if there is any evidence to back it up, though.
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I've been there by
on 2010-06-10 02:22:00 UTC
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Specifically with the upcoming Xcom FPS, which is supposedly somehow connected to the X-com top-down turn based isometric squad tactical game. I think what irritates me most is that it is inexplicably set in the 1960's with the main character being an FBI agent. Mostly because I see no possible reason for that change.
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Yeah, I'm not a big LotF fan either. by
on 2010-06-09 19:53:00 UTC
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I think that evil!Jacen could've potentially been pretty good, but the way it was done just did not work. Some of the writers were better than others, though. *is not a Traviss fan*
I did really like Shatterpoint and the RotS novelization by Stover.
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Re: New category? by
on 2010-06-09 18:53:00 UTC
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Yep, I'd call it a Halo 'verse Canon too. Not Halo Canon, but a "subcanon" if you will.
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Mixed by
on 2010-06-09 10:23:00 UTC
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I was in two minds about Traitor... I liked having a novel that didn't portray Jacen as a whiny bitch, but especially after the whole Legacy of the Force debacle I'm not a fan of the book that started him down the path to being Darth Junior. Destroy one of the favourite characters of my childhood, why don't you...
Elcalion, only slightly bitter
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OT: Just saw Shrek Forever After by
on 2010-06-09 06:57:00 UTC
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Now I can officially ignore Shrek the Third.
All in all, I felt it was pretty good.
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Advance Wars Fanfic by
on 2010-06-09 06:23:00 UTC
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I've been addicted to Advance Wars: Dual Strike for weeks now, which was a resurgence of an earlier addiction to the earlier two games. As I only started playing this most recent game after my exposure to the Fan Fiction community (the story being the poorest of the three, leaving an unlikely and unsatisfactory end for my tastes), I was drawn to start writing a fun light hearted story that plays with the darker side of one of the hero characters, Sonja.
The first chapter of the story can be found at http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6035726/1/Enhanced_Vision if you are interested. I'll try to keep it updating at a fairly regular pace. Comments (I have a large ego to feed) and criticism (I have very thick skin) are welcome.
I tried to make it a fun read even for people that aren't as familiar with the canon, but obviously people who have played the games will enjoy it more.
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Categories by
on 2010-06-09 06:17:00 UTC
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I believe Red vs. Blue is actually a parody set /in/ the Halo canon. You could consider it an alternate canon in the Halo continuity.
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About that third fanfic... by
on 2010-06-09 04:47:00 UTC
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From the reviews, It appears that Kurt was Carey's Killer. Repeat: Kurt was Carey's killer. Anyone who knows what that sentence means, rejoice. You now have another cause for facepalming. Apparently Divorced Dads are now automatically homicidal by nature. *rages*
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Indeed. by
on 2010-06-09 04:38:00 UTC
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Here are some other fics, too:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3774376/1/HisForbiddenLife
Cody/Gary Stu. The writing's not really that bad (though I only read up to Chapter 6).
However, another fic by the same author begun much later after that one is a cliched mess that masquerades as a backstory for one of his villains.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4279145/1/StolenInnocenceIVThePrequel
And of course, there's this one:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3178119/1/WishingForDeath
Boarders who were there just before my failed Permission attempt (not going to talk about that) whould remember this as one of four fanfics that were candidates for my first mission. I ended up selecting another (now deleted), but only because I coudn't take this one.