You can also take more than one role if you like, there's no rule against it. If you feel confident in accurately voicing Violet, Helen, Chell, GlaDOS, or Ellie the mammoth, feel free to pick at least one among them. I look forward to seeing how you'd portray your choices!
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There's a number of possible roles open, yes! by
on 2020-04-17 16:25:35 UTC
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Ooh. by
on 2020-04-17 16:20:22 UTC
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I'm interested in mission live-readings generally, for sure! I don't quite feel that I can commit to something the length of that one, though. 48k is nearly a novel!
What about something from TOS? I have a vague, nebulous fantasy about adapting it into an audio drama someday, and a live reading would be good practice for that. ^_^
I don't think it's self-centered to offer your own work for the entertainment of others, to be clear. I would offer mine, except I have an aversion to reading my own words out loud. It just weirds me out. I'd spend the whole time cringing at phrasing that ends up not working and worrying about getting my characters' voices wrong because over half of them are guys and I've never done accents. ^_^;
~Neshomeh
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Wait, wait, nope. by
on 2020-04-17 16:13:20 UTC
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AnyAmy must predate TOS13 - because she's mentioned in it! Good grief, I can't see the woods for the trees, can I?
The BBQ is also mentioned in TOS12 - in the authors' note. So at least we know that mission was before the 21st?
Okay, I think I have to Extant Phylogenetic Bracket the TOS13 spinoffs:
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The Last Word is Always Goodbye: by AnyAmy -- http://fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=733570 -- extant, 2002/04/21
LotR: The Mary-Sue Menace: by Queen of the Damned (well, inspired by us, at any rate.) -- http://fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=715336 -- --25 is 2002/04/11
Freedom's Just Another Word . . . by Black Katana -- http://fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=627968 -- archived, 2002/02/27
The Floater: by NytBloomer -- http://fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=699353 -- extant, 2002/04/03
PPC - The enterprise expands: by KazraGirl -- http://fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=653198 -- --90 is 2002/03/12
Intelligence Briefs for the PPC: by Architeuthis -- http://fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=642406 -- --04 is 2002/03/07
Agents R and... Another R: by Robyn -- http://fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=696601 -- --07 is 2002/04/02.
Protectors of the Plot Continuum- New Recruits: by SilentStep -- http://fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=736896 -- --95 is 2002/04/23.
Taken far too literally: by Grey Lady Bast -- http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=602168 -- extant, 2002/02/13, but only PPC from ca. 2002/04/28.
PPC: The long, painful day of Anna Maria: by kezya -- http://fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=697658 -- --45 is 2002/04/02
Protectors of the Plot Continuum: The New Kids: by Sakira Kage -- http://fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=701665 -- extant, 2002/04/04
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So our latest confirmed 'before TOS13' date is 2002/04/23; I think I prefer that to the Bast date, because assuming she got reviewed the day the chapter went up is fraught with peril.
Also! Robyn's story must come after TOS7 (since that's when Ranger was recruited), but I think it also comes after TOS8 (when he was partnered with her): it would be a presumptuous author indeed who wrote their new partner in before officially being given them. So that pins TOS8 a little earlier, which is nice in a 'by degrees' fashion.
hS
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As I said before, I'm in! by
on 2020-04-17 16:01:28 UTC
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You were one of the first PPCers whose missions I specifically went looking for, so forgive any over-eagerness. I'd be glad to voice whoever needs it, but I'd prefer a female character or narration. If I can make it through a few chapters of The Rise of the Drackens with a mostly straight face, I'm fairly sure I can do this.
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You mad genius, you! by
on 2020-04-17 15:55:58 UTC
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I don't know if that qualifies as an intelligent response, but I put effort into it, at least! {= D
~Neshomeh with gifs
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Hap (belated) Birf! *blows party horn* (nm) by
on 2020-04-17 15:23:12 UTC
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Congrats! *tosses Spikes* (nm) by
on 2020-04-17 15:22:27 UTC
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Help wanted for a mission Live Reading! by
on 2020-04-17 15:21:59 UTC
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Hey, everyone! It's been a while, and largely I've been more active on the Discord than here, but I had this idea for a short while and wanted to get it out there. So, here goes:
Some years back, I tried to do a live-reading of my very first PPC mission, "Connecting The Dots". Emphasis on "tried" because I ended up getting past only the prologue, and then stopping and never actually managing to continue let alone finish it. I still feel bad that it happened, and I think I know why it fell through: personal cowardice. The main reason I sporked the fic way back when, aside from obviously addressing all of the problems pertaining to the fic itself, was because it carried a lot of emotional and personal baggage from when I was younger and acted in a way that alienated more than a few people both online and off, and the decline in the fic's quality as the writing progressed reflected that. Re-reading the fic thus made me feel understandably guilty, angry with myself, and so embarrassed that I felt like it would be too much trouble to continue with the live-reading. I'd have to relive a lot of the fic's worst moments, in other words. I still feel bad that I never did finish that live-reading because of this, though, and it's a selfish move which I still regret and wish to apologize for. So to make up for it, I've thought about re-doing the live-reading from start to finish, although this time, I was hoping to get some help with this reading - there's so many characters involved that voicing them myself would have been a chore in its own right!
To this end, I was wondering if anyone here on the Board (who can also be on the Discord server, I mean) would like to attend this new live-reading, when you guys think would be a good time for me to host it (preferably on Saturdays and Sundays since I'm free all day on those days) - and most importantly, if those of you who can attend the voice chat are willing to provide voices for the characters featured. I plan on doing the narrating and voicing the characters currently belonging to myself, including Falchion, Rashida, Sarah, Ripper, and... uh... T/e/r/r/o/r/d/a/c/t/y/l... but if anyone else is willing to voice the canon characters, feel free to specify who you wish to voice. If you don't feel confident in voicing people, that's fine - attendance and enjoyment of the reading is fine even if it's at my own expense! XD
For reference, I intend to read from the AO3 re-upload of the mission, the recent editing of which in certain parts was what inspired me to want to redo the live-reading:
RC #227 Mission #1: Connecting The Dots (Warning: NSFW, somewhat NSFB, NSFM, and contains mentions of several blacklisted topics on the Discord server.)
I apologize by the way if this comes off as being self-centered. If anyone has issues with what I intend to do, feel free to let me know, and if the rest of you think I shouldn't then that's fine, too. Otherwise, feel free to reply to this post or send me a PM if you wish to help! Thanks in advance, and I look forward to FINALLY redoing this thing!
-SkarmorySilver
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Logic by
on 2020-04-17 14:32:34 UTC
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TOS15 doesn't mention anything from Intel4, while it does make reference to stuff from Intel2&3. It's not the most solid logic, but there it is.
Ah, right, I'd forgotten that about Katana mentioning the chapters. Good. ^_^
And ooh, yeah, AnyAmy helps. That mission is also the source of the horse mentioned in TOS15, so that most likely puts April 21 between TOS13 (where the BBQ idea started) and TOS15 (when it was brought to fruition).
I'm going to go try to find something intelligent to say to your phylogeny post now. {= D {= D {= D
~Neshomeh
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-- OMG EXTANT PHYLOGENETIC BRACKETING. by
on 2020-04-17 13:36:19 UTC
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Or, to put it another way:
"FF.net story numbers are sequential by publication date."
TOS once stood, like a proud castle rising above the stormy sea of Sues, at story ID 576539. The link format has changed, but story IDs have been preserved. So take a modern FF.net story link, paste in that number, and just iterate backwards...
The first extant story before 576539 is 576527. I don't even recognise the fandom, but who cares? We're here for the date, and 'That's Where the Beach Was, That's Where the Sea' was posted on January 30th, 2002.
Working in the other direction... well, 576544 doesn't exist because its category was deleted - theories on a postcard - but 576546 is still there, and sure enough, was also posted on January 30th, 2002.
Double-checking, the next one up is --50, same date. The next one down is --14, also same date. So that's confirmed.
So there we go. At long last, we have a firm date for the creation of the PPC: 2002/01/30.
(And, incidentally, KazraGirl's story's nearest before-neighbour confirms her March 12th date.)
hS
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Happy birthday! (nm) by
on 2020-04-17 13:04:29 UTC
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I have tweaked the timeline. by
on 2020-04-17 09:01:18 UTC
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I think you're right about Black Katana - she talks about emailling J&A, so we can't fix her to TOS6. She also mentions a lack of vacation, which seems like a specific TOS reference - but given that we already have a datefix for TOS5, I don't think it's going to help.
The reviews to her story do help with one thing, though: they confirm that 'Taken Far Too Literally' was not a PPC spinoff from the beginning, as Bast is still trying to get J&A to read it on 2002/02/27.
--NO WAIT, I take it all back: Katana specifically mentions 'all seven chapters so far'. Since we know the A/N was a standalone first chapter, that means she does postdate TOS6. Phew!
I think the main thing the Architeuthis data provides for TOS is that 'Intel 4 has to be after TOS15'. I've added the claim to the timeline, but, er... what's the logic behind it? I'm afraid I don't follow.
EDIT: iiiis it useful to know that Amy and Brent mention the BBQ at the end of AnyAmy's first mission, which hit FFn on April 21st? The first mention of a BBQ was in TOS13, which I currently have timelined as after April 28th; on checking, that's based on a review date on Bast's story, so probably isn't reliable. I think AnyAmy's evidence may push it back, and narrow down TOS11&12 as well.
hS
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Help from Architeuthis by
on 2020-04-17 05:15:14 UTC
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I'm coming to realize that TOS and Intel are very closely linked. TOS2, "Chosen," was reported by Archy! She was a follower of the PPC from the very start!
Intel1 "The Beginning" and Intel2 "Manic Depressive" (which I'd bet were published at the same time, having a separate chapter for the intro being the done thing) can be placed somewhere between TOS2 "Chosen" and TOS7 "Children of the Earth." (I'm less certain we can date TOS6 based on the assumption that those first three spin-off authors waited for the A/N invitation to publish. Possibly Archy, Katana, and Kazra got permission via reviews or a forum before the general invitation? IDK, my brain is tired.)
Intel3 "Time Will Tell" features Alice, so it goes after TOS9 "Laugh at the Moon" (which is where Alice is recruited) and before 25 May 2002, when the spin-off was rehosted.
TOS15 "The Maiden" (a.k.a. the PPC barbecue) references Clefe and Ash from Intel1 as well as Zaneth the mind-flayer from Intel3.
We know Intel4 "Harry Potter and the One Ring" was published on 17 June 2002 thanks to P@L, which pretty much has to be after TOS15. It's definitely before TOS17 "Darkness Awakened," which was published on 29 June 2002. We also know Intel5 was published on 16 December 2002, again thanks to P@L, and it references TOS19 "Torment" in which Jay deals with bad slash.
It's possible the authors were in communication and could have referred to events in each other's series before they happened, but I don't think so.
So, that gives us:
- Intel1&2: between 2002/02/04 and 2002/03/20 (earliest date for TOS2 and best for TOS7)
- Intel3: between 2002/03/30 and 2002/05/25 (earliest date for TOS9 and Odd Lots)
- Intel4: 2002/06/17 (Odd Lots)
- Intel5: 2002/12/16 (Odd Lots)
And maybe that helps narrow down one or two dates for TOS, but unfortunately, my brain ran out of steam for working it out tonight. I went into this evening planning to work on the TOS playlist I'm trying to build from all the music references (I'm on TOS15). I wasn't intending to process this much information. {= P
Oh, but, re. close ties: Architeuthis was the one to invent the Department of Fictional Psychology??? It's mentioned in Intel1, from Feb/March 2002. Everything I know is wrong! Again! {X D This... suggests that Acacia was referring to FicPsych when she mentions the "Department of Psychology" in "Sisterhood"? Which means DoPsych is a myth...? Except it was canonized via that PPC archival post on LJ, which was rescued from an older site that was posted with J&A's permission. I don't think this mucks up anything for me in-universe, but only a closer reading will tell. ^_^
~Neshomeh can't think anymore tonight.
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It could be! {= D (nm) by
on 2020-04-17 01:20:54 UTC
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Nice find! by
on 2020-04-17 01:18:03 UTC
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That's a pretty interesting thread, and well done finding it! The timeline is looking great. {= D
That forum reminds me—you may have this already, but I've been meaning to hunt up the ProBoard that was briefly tested in 2003, where the A/V Department stories and some other threads from the
realPosting Board were archived, and I finally did. It still exists, though there's a layer of spam on top of the actual posts: PPC Message Board. Could be worth adding to the current archives, if you don't have them. If for no other reason than that the colors Kaltia used to represent thread nesting make my eyes water. I can barely read the blue text (it's too close in value to the background), and if I stare at the blue next to the red for too long, the paragraphs start to sink/float due to the 3D glasses effect. O.oThere's not a ton there, but it's interesting, reading that the ProBoard was made as a testing ground for mods, to see if it would be worth asking P@L to make changes to the Posting Board allow for them. Reactions to the form of ProBoards were notably mixed, and clearly it didn't catch on. (It likely didn't help that the yellow-on-dark-gray theme is hideous. Not sure if yellows are the same to your eyes, but trust me. {= P )
~Neshomeh
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Happy Birthday! (nm) by
on 2020-04-16 20:49:07 UTC
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Happy cake day. (nm) by
on 2020-04-16 12:20:42 UTC
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The complete timeline (so far) by
on 2020-04-16 09:58:44 UTC
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The full timeline, using the Lost Tales order (which, yes, places TOS23: To Know Where You Are Going out of publication order).
((Note: This post has been repeatedly edited to keep it up to date.))
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TOS1: 2002/01/30 [Extant Phylogenetic Bracketing]
TOS2: between 2002/02/04 - 2002/02/20 [Entmoot - TOS4]
TOS3: between 2002/02/04 - 2002/02/20 [TOS2 - TOS4]
TOS4: ca. 2002/02/20 [Entmoot]
TOS5: ca. 2002/02/24 [Entmoot]
TOS6: between 2002/02/24 - 2002/02/27 [TOS5 - Black Katana]
TOS7: ca. 2002/03/20 [Entmoot]
TOS8: between 2002/03/20 - 2002/04/02 [TOS7 - Robyn's spinoff]
TOS9: between 2002/03/20 - 2002/04/08 [TOS7 - TOS10]
TOS10: ca. 2002/04/08 [Miss Cam]
TOS11: between 2002/04/08 - 2002/04/16 [TOS10 - The Flame]
TOS12: between 2002/04/16 - 2002/04/21 [The Flame - AnyAmy mentions the BBQ]
TOS13: between 2002/04/23 - 2002/05/04 [SilentStep's spinoff - FFn]
TOS14: ca. 2002/05/10 [Oddlots]
TOS15: between 2002/05/16 - 2002/06/01 [Oddlots & TOS16]
TOS16: between 2002/05/16 - 2002/06/01 [Oddlots & OFUM 59]
TOS17: 2002/06/29 [Oddlots]
TOS18: 2002/08/21 [HA / Oddlots]
TOS19: 2002/08/25 [HA]
TOS20: 2002/10/09 [HA/Oddlots]
TOS21: 2002/12/27 [Oddlots]
TOS22: between 2002/12/27 - 2003/04/18 [TOS21 - MissSandman]
TOS23: 2003/08/12 [Oddlots]
TOS24: 2003/06/15 [Oddlots]
TOS25: 2003/06/15 [Oddlots]
TOS26: before 2003/08/21 [MissSandman]
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Oh, and while we're at it:
PPC Board: 2002/11/03 [Oddlots]
PPC Constitution: 2003/03/09 [Unhinged Mind]
Oddlots rehosted: 2003/03/10 [Unhinged Mind]
PPC homepage rehosted: 2003/03/12 [Unhinged Mind / Oddlots]
hS
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And an incidental find: by
on 2020-04-16 09:05:27 UTC
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Is AnyAmy's review reply halfway down the page the first mention of the DIA? ^_~
hS
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I am interested by
on 2020-04-16 07:24:19 UTC
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I would like to share some spooky scary tales, hopefully treat y'all to the horror that is my recording voice.
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I haven't had insanity-inducing cake by
on 2020-04-16 07:21:09 UTC
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But this is the PPC so...
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Thanks for the chocolate! by
on 2020-04-16 07:20:39 UTC
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Though I'd save the emergency stash for post-angst recovery for your characters. :P
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Chocolate is good stuff. Thanks! (nm) by
on 2020-04-16 07:19:49 UTC
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Thanks! (nm) by
on 2020-04-16 07:19:16 UTC
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The baked goods are appreciated! (nm) by
on 2020-04-16 07:18:49 UTC
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