... beware, there aren't actually any rules!
But yes, it has some guidelines on the subject of exorcisms.
When you say 'and at number/severity of charges is a good place to cut it off?', er, what exactly do you mean? If you mean what I think you mean, i.e. how long should the exorcism be? then the answer is 'stop juuust before it gets repetitive and boring' :)
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Yep! But ... by
on 2010-02-27 05:50:00 UTC
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Awesome :D (nm) by
on 2010-02-27 00:21:00 UTC
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I'll try to find the picture. by
on 2010-02-27 00:20:00 UTC
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The more I think about it, the more I'm sure I did it. I'll send it to you if it turns up. {= )
~Neshomeh
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I need to clean it up ... it's kind of all over the place by
on 2010-02-27 00:17:00 UTC
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And I'm pretty sure it's got typos and other nasties lurking in it ... the problem when you take several nearly year-long hiatuses during writing something.
I *do* remember someone drawing a Hellpuppy, and that it was awesome ... but that was several computers ago and I think I've lost the picture, if I had a copy :(
Hmm, I think I've worked out what I'm going to do with the rest of my day - clean up GOOFSS :D
Hope you enjoy the new installment!
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Oh, yay! by
on 2010-02-27 00:15:00 UTC
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Joy! ^_^
I should re-read the whole thing from the beginning. As I recall, I hadn't actually read Good Omens when you started it and... I drew the Hellpuppy for you, didn't I? Or am I thinking of something else? But no, I distinctly remember doing a Google search for images of evil-looking chihuahuas.
~Neshomeh
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PLUG: The Good Omens Official Fanfiction Summer School by
on 2010-02-26 23:49:00 UTC
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Part the Eleventh is now out!
http://goofss.livejournal.com/4222.html
Part the Twelfth is in the works, and Part the Thirteenth, the final installment, is being plotted.
- Trojie, most erratic OFU writer ever
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*SNORT* Of coouuuurse you do. (nm) by
on 2010-02-26 19:40:00 UTC
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A couple of answers :) by
on 2010-02-26 19:39:00 UTC
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'What method for dealing with charge lists have you found most effective? Listing stylistic things as they come up, and then describing characterization issues with the neuralized canons seems the most common, but you've also talked about using excerpts of charge lists during the exorcism as well.'
It's an interesting question, this one. The charge list, in Bad Slash missions, if we're honest, is mostly a way of keeping the reader informed about why the sporker thinks the fic deserves to be sporked. In-story, the Agents just list whatever crimes (both stylistic and characterisation-based) come up as they come up. And as for incorporating things in exorcisms, well, that's entirely up to you as to how you do it and what you include - we tend to include charges that are easily 'banished', or basically whatever sounds good.
'Do you have any recommended sources about the more... physics and biology side of things? Even real life men sometimes find out even basic stuff like that moisturizing soap isn't really moisturizing enough the unpleasant way, but some of the kinkier stuff I'd be cautious about trying to Google up answers.'
*cough* Uh, actually ... I should probably find some. The physics and biology side of things relies on my and Pads's particular interest and knowledge of those subjects, so ... we tend to just remark upon things that we know are wrong.
I'll keep an eye out for good resources, though, and of course you're always welcome to ask me specific questions :)
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I'd agree with that by
on 2010-02-26 19:30:00 UTC
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If they're being weird, they're probably possessed. Even if by 'weird' you mean 'carrying out actions that they never ever would in canon.' If they're actually going against defined canon characteristics, they're probably replacements.
So, to take Harry Potter as a frequently-possessed-AND-replaced-character;
If Harry is, for reasons of OMG ANGST, running around killing Death Eaters and having violent angsty sex, distasteful as that is, he's probably possessed.
If Harry was born evil, sides with Voldemort and thinks killing anyone he fancies and violent sex is fun, he's probably a replacement.
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I've still got my leather pants. *tempt tempt tempt* (nm) by
on 2010-02-26 19:07:00 UTC
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Canon replacement. by
on 2010-02-26 18:58:00 UTC
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For me, a big indicator is the name. If a character no longer goes by their real name, there's a good chance it's a replacement. In fact, that's why I killed Nadia/Hermione but not Ginny in the HP/DroP mission. (Also I didn't let it get to the parts where Ginny was in the spotlight and thus more Sue-ified.)
Of course, there are plenty of instances in which the character retains the name and that is literally the only thing they have in common with the canon character, especially if their defining characteristics are gone, such as you mentioned with Cregga Rose Eyes.
A character that's just behaving very strangely is probably possessed--they're still themselves to some degree, but being forced to act weird due to outside influence. But if the story takes away the things that define them, that's a replacement. It is a judgement call up to the person writing the mission, but that's how I look at it.
~Neshomeh
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Ohhhh. In that case, I heartily second you. by
on 2010-02-26 18:35:00 UTC
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I used to see that sort of thing in Neopets RP all the time, and it drives me nuts. No balls of chocolate stuck in eye sockets, please. Nor of jade (although that could make for a spiffy false eye, I suppose, if glass wasn't your thing).
~Neshomeh
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*high fives* (nm) by
on 2010-02-26 18:34:00 UTC
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Daggers and painkillers! Time to learn to juggle. (nm) by
on 2010-02-26 18:31:00 UTC
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Awesome, I can make a Liguar. (nm) by
on 2010-02-26 18:25:00 UTC
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Thank you! Also, I am a sir. (nm) by
on 2010-02-26 18:24:00 UTC
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A few questions by
on 2010-02-26 17:18:00 UTC
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On the general side:
Are there any particular cut-off points between when a canon is being Possessed, and when a canon is being Replaced? The feel I've gotten so far is that the answer is whatever works best for the mission report, but cases like a dark-eyed and passive Cregga Rose Eyes seem to have so little in common with the character that it demands the Replacement label. I think either Agent Trojie or Pads also said that they'd probably need to kill an alive!Sirius personally rather than simply exorcise since he was supposed to be dead.
What method for dealing with charge lists have you found most effective? Listing stylistic things as they come up, and then describing characterization issues with the neuralized canons seems the most common, but you've also talked about using excerpts of charge lists during the exorcism as well.
Do you have any recommended sources about the more... physics and biology side of things? Even real life men sometimes find out even basic stuff like that moisturizing soap isn't really moisturizing enough the unpleasant way, but some of the kinkier stuff I'd be cautious about trying to Google up answers.
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Oops, I phrased that poorly. by
on 2010-02-26 16:53:00 UTC
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I meant to say that it's all right to say "brown eyes" instead of "chocolate orbs" or "green eyes" instead of "jade optical."
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With my luck, probably just about when you got here. (nm) by
on 2010-02-26 16:19:00 UTC
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Welcome back, sir or madam! by
on 2010-02-26 15:55:00 UTC
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I'm a rather recent newbie, so it's nice to meet you! Have a venomous arthropod.
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Welcome back. Here's a tall ship. by
on 2010-02-26 12:46:00 UTC
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Fair winds!
I registered almost a year ago, when did you leave?
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Welome Back! by
on 2010-02-26 11:39:00 UTC
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Also, i've started branching out my welcome gifts just a few months ago. Have several Tigers, Lions, Ligers and Jaguars!
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I'm a little late, but... by
on 2010-02-26 06:45:00 UTC
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Happy birthday! *Puts on a party hat*
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Payback by
on 2010-02-26 05:54:00 UTC
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In the wee hours of the morning a white-furred hand emerged from a mass of sleeping female flesh, searching blindly for something. It grasped the neck of a large bottle, and the body the arm was attached to emerged from the pile, dull green eyes blearily looking over the empty container.<br> “Why's the rum always gone?” the arctic fox muttered to himself, tossing the empty bottle away and standing up unsteadily. “Ah, that's why,” he replied to himself before pulling a flask from between the bosom of a passed-out girl and downing the contents. He needed to go on a booze run, he could feel his perpetual buzz fading. Sighing loudly, he grabbed a pair of pants and shook off the grasping hands on his legs begging him to come back to the cuddle puddle.<br><br> “The source of my recovery. Sweet shadow taking hold of the light, another day has been devoured Calling me away, begging the question why...” Jack sang along softly to himself as he listened to his MP3 player. Despite having the attention span of an ADHD child who has just discovered Monster Energy drink he still needed music as a distraction in HQ. He sang along to Disturbed as he wound his way around the labyrinthine corridors, stopping cold in surprise as he picked up the distinct smell of mating.<br><br> Turning down the corridor the waft originated from, Jack's nose led him to a broom closet in the middle-of-...ing-nowhere. He definitely heard the sounds of a rather... intense... session of lovemaking going on inside, and having the better sense not to interrupt, turned to continue on his way. Besides, booze called.<br><br> Meanwhile in the closet, the two paused as they heard the footsteps.<br> “Ah, I think someone is coming Barid,” Neshomeh commented, pulling a strand of hair out of her sweaty face.<br> “Yeah, its me,” Barid replied with a lecherous grin.