But I also post my missions on FFnet which makes it more likely that someone stumbles across a mission than if I posted on LJ or on a private website. My message is:
Hi,
I'm sending you this message to let you know that I've written a spoof of INSERT TITLE. The spoof is not meant as a personal attack on you as the author of this story, but if you have a strong attachment to the character of INSERT NAME OF SUE OC I suggest you don't read chapter CHAPTER NUMBER of INSERT TITLE OF APPROPRIATE PPC SERIAL.
I think that has gotten me three or four author reactions, and the most negative was "Hey, you said your wrote a story about my story, but I don't see it". Because I also usually wait a few days for a reaction before I post the chapter.
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I often tell them by
on 2009-12-21 18:30:00 UTC
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We have a live one here! by
on 2009-12-21 15:37:00 UTC
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I think this is one of the first to poke back! Excellent... She will fit in nicely...
Leto
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RE: UPDATE #2 by
on 2009-12-21 15:13:00 UTC
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Sounds good. I want to be able to read your missions without hassle, though I'm thiking of getting a LiveJournal account sometime soon as well.
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Oh dear... by
on 2009-12-21 15:08:00 UTC
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Sounds horrific. Does anyone else but me think this one should REALLY be killed? With fire even? Heck, make that //LOTS// of fire!
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Zotz loves that stupid video. (nm) by
on 2009-12-21 13:02:00 UTC
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MEEP? by
on 2009-12-21 13:01:00 UTC
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That's against school rules, you know...
http://community.livejournal.com/mockthestupid/3223937.html
XD
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Hi! by
on 2009-12-21 12:50:00 UTC
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Welcome to the PPC! Here's an Anti-glitter shield from the Raven Armory. (It'll block out the sight of a Sue and can't be Sueified. Don't ask how that's possible.
I don't even know, myself.) Oh, and here's a bottle of bleeprin as well. You'll need it, believe me.
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Re: Imagination by
on 2009-12-21 08:48:00 UTC
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Exactly as you say it, that is the way YOU think. We might be able to cintinue later, but not now.
Good night!
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Imagination by
on 2009-12-21 08:44:00 UTC
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To be honest, I don't really understand your point of view. I don't understand how you can say there is no good or bad, no right or wrong, because I think a world without those things would be drab, lifeless, and boring. It excludes the possibility of the very good just as surely as it excludes the possibility of the very bad, and I just don't want to live in a world without the very good.
Some of the things you say are true; for example, the writer is entitled to her imagination, and the plot of a fanfic is completely up to its author. However, the writer is not entitled to everyone thinking the product of her imagination is a good read, and just because a fanfic author CAN write whatever they want, that doesn't mean that they executed it well, or that I have to like it.
I think we have a different concept of what "canon" means. To me, canon is to fiction as the laws of physics are to reality: you can't change them and expect the world to be right. Furthermore, the original author (the one whose name is on the books) is to canon as God is to the Bible. So, when you say Hogwarts might be a spy organization, I say, "No, it isn't, because J. K. Rowling says so and she created the thing, so she should know." Same goes for the rest: J. K. Rowling made the Harry Potter characters the way they are, and since it's her world, she's the ultimate authority.
(For the record, I'm not a very religious person, and I'm especially not about to worship a work of fiction or its author. It's just an analogy.)
Anyway, if a fanfic writer wants to change things for the sake of imagination, I'm fine with that. I just expect it to be done with regard to the canon and to have some kind of logical reason and explanation behind it in the fic. I call that well-executed. If a fic isn't well-executed, I call it a badfic and I'm not going to take it seriously.
Closing thoughts: If you don't love Hogwarts and its people as they are in the books, how can you call yourself a fan of them? Isn't a fan someone who loves something?
~Neshomeh (who is going to bed now)
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Have a Bengal Tiger cub! (nm) by
on 2009-12-21 08:37:00 UTC
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Glad to make your acquaintance by
on 2009-12-21 08:02:00 UTC
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Hi there. Have a cup of some Whomping Willow Tea. It's good for you.
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Re: There's a time and a place. by
on 2009-12-21 07:34:00 UTC
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I suppose I do, but what I am saying is that this is the writers 'imagination'. Some might imagine Luna being that way, and some characters don't have a solid personality. There are plenty of open endings for us to fill in. Like ,for example, how we don't know if Luna was always the way she is, or how Madame Hooch behaves. In fact, to many, even coming up with a name of Luna’s mother can change the whole entire canon personality! The very definition of fanfiction is fiction written by fans of a TV series, movie, etc., using existing characters and situations to develop new plots. And to not all is it ridiculous. In fact, that is just an opinion. Some find it quite alright to change the main plot of the story.
Also, they might not in fact be doing so. If they are telling the story from a different point of view, why should they include what's going on in someone else’s life, if, in fact, they are focusing on another?
And who says there is a right or wrong way in fanfiction.The plot of a fanfic is supposed to be completely up to the author of said fanfic. And who said that what we see is the true personality of Luna. She is a fictional character. Yes in many she is just as real as anyone else, but is it right to give her a strict personality? There are many thing that are unexplained in her life that can leave to new possibilities, and possibly a whole new Luna.
And yes that may be the Hogwarts you know an love, but to others it is not. In fact, to some people it may be a spy organization!
Now do you understand where I am getting at?
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There's a time and a place. by
on 2009-12-21 07:14:00 UTC
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To quote the PPC's founders:
"We love fanfic. Honestly, we do.
"But changing the *main plotline* of the canon story is ridiculous. (Except in speculative AU "what-if" type stories.) And Mary Sues upstage the canonical main characters, which really should not happen. If you want to be the main character, try doing original fiction."
To rephrase, yes, fanfic is for exploring possibilities left open by the canon, but there's a right and a wrong way to do it. In general, good "what-if" or Alternate Universe fics take one point in the story and explore a singular alternative. "What if Luna's mother hadn't died?" "What if there were five houses in Hogwarts?" "What if Luna had become Harry's best friend instead of Hermione?" "What if Luna was the one in the prophecy?" Stuff like that. Once the writer asks a question like that (usually just one, since it's more difficult to write a believable AU the more things you change), their challenge is to answer it while also staying true to the spirit of the original canon, and that's where a lot of writers miss the mark and stray from legitimate AU or "what-if" fic into badfic.
To run with the Silvermoon fic as an example, there are things she could have improved to make it more believable as an AU. First and foremost, there's no escaping the fact that Luna is completely out of character. It's a big problem because we love Luna for her quirky personality and the weird things she says and does, and there's none of that in the fic. If the author didn't want to write about that Luna, she shouldn't have used her at all.
It's the same problem with Ollivander and Madam Hooch: that wasn't the wise, strange Ollivander I read about in Harry Potter; it was some flaky old guy with blood pressure issues. It wasn't the strict, competent Madam Hooch, either.
It's the same problem again with adding another house, especially the way she did it here. The writer claimed it was a new house, that it had no Head of House, and that the students didn't have to wear the Hogwarts uniform. That doesn't fit in the Hogwarts I know and love. It throws Hogwarts out of character, if you like. The new house has no history, no depth, and nothing to help it fit in with the canon: it exists simply because the author wanted to make her cast of characters stand out, which is something a good writer should be able to do without gimmicks.
Remember, the writer was attracted to Luna for some reason in the first place. Presumably Luna stood out to her for some reason; but in her fic, whatever that reason was is erased and ineffectively replaced with gimmicks and shiny baubles.
... That's a lot of text. I hope I'm not stretching your patience too much; I'm just trying to explain my standpoint and that of most people on this Board as completely as possible. Do you understand what I'm getting at?
~Neshomeh
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Re: Same difference. by
on 2009-12-21 05:48:00 UTC
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Sorry, typo. I meant Well. Mindless error.
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Re: Same difference. by
on 2009-12-21 05:47:00 UTC
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Wee, isn't that what fanfiction is for? I don't believe there are any good or bad fanfics. It's just the author's imagination on what they think how something should have gone. Or just mindless drabbles on daydreams they had on the certain topic.
Also,I came here because I was interested.
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UPDATE #2 by
on 2009-12-21 05:18:00 UTC
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The links on all our agents' pages are now done, so anyone trying to get to missions via there can do so now.
(and I didn't realise quite how many agents we write until I tried to track them all down ...)
Just a couple more changes to make and we should be all up to date and ready to go :)
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okay, great by
on 2009-12-21 05:16:00 UTC
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I was just wondering if it was a rule or something of the PPC. Thanks for the information :-)
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Not usually. by
on 2009-12-21 05:14:00 UTC
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In general we don't tell them, because we write the missions for ourselves, not them. Also, more importantly, waving the mission under the writer's nose would probably just result in bad feeling and possibly ignite a flame war, which nobody wants.
On the other hand, if you know the writer would be a good sport about it, there's no reason not to tell them.
~Neshomeh
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Welcome! *proffers a plate of lembas* (nm) by
on 2009-12-21 05:13:00 UTC
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Same difference. by
on 2009-12-21 05:08:00 UTC
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It's still not likely that someone like Ollivander, who's seen more strange things than most, would actually faint over something like that. Therefore, it's the author's/self-insert's/Sue's doing. Anyway, that's just one quibble in a list of the fic's errors.
... You're new around here, aren't you? What brings you to the Board?
~Neshomeh
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oh no need by
on 2009-12-21 05:05:00 UTC
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Seriously, besides a fireplace poker is MUCH more threatening. Unless one is terrified of getting papercuts or playing cards... but I digress. And thanks again
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Hmm, tough question. by
on 2009-12-21 04:58:00 UTC
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It's a toss-up between Aragorn and Sam. And Faramir. And Eowyn. And Galadriel. And Theoden. And Bilbo.
Um.
You see the problem. ^_^;
~Neshomeh