If kids are only exposed to the standard one-mummy-one-daddy-per-child thing, they grow up learning that's the norm. If they're exposed at a very young age to the idea that some people have parents of different genders, some have parents of the same gender, and some have only one parent, and some have three or four or five parents, and the reasons why are explained, little kids at least tend to be pretty accepting of the whole deal.
Might be a bit different when they hit teenage years, but if you're going to take the "let's not give the bullies ammunition" route, you could just as well argue that my parents shouldn't have been allowed to have me, because a child who's a) ginger b) fat c) bespectacled d) socially inept and e) the smartest kid in the class is going to get a lot of shit.
Basically, pretty much everyone will get bullied for something. You won't improve matters by pretending homosexuality doesn't exist until kids hit their teens. All you'll do is ensure they come across something very different to anything they've ever known at a time when most of them, frankly, are utter shites who could do with a damned good smack and then solitary confinement for ten years until they turn into reasonable human beings. Kids pick on anything different. If gay couples can adopt, then it's not such a big difference; kids are more used to the idea.
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that's... interesting logic by
on 2009-06-02 13:57:00 UTC
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Re: And just look at the comments... by
on 2009-06-02 13:55:00 UTC
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"L0Lbanz0rz violent videogames!1!!one"
Don't forget Mass Effect! Fear the alien sideboob!
"Muslims are ALL terrorists"
The view most of my family has is that they're not all terrorists, but they're not doing themselves any favours either. They allow extremists to teach in mosques, they protest about the Iraq War in ways that are just utter BS (see the protest about the Poacher's march through Luton a few months back (I was there and it was complete bollocks)), coming to Britian to get away from Sharia law and then demanding Sharia law (*headdesk*?) and other things like that... then they complain when governments attempt to tighten their security to prevent terrorism. If Muslims were to police themselves and weed out extremists, then they would find that the world would think of them far more favourable. This view is also shared by a Muslim friend of mine, so it must have some good points in it.
"So if you think it's normal ponder this if everyone turned gay the human race will be extinct in less than 50 years!"
*headdesk* I heard somewhere that ninety percent (I believe) of sex between lions is homosexual. That's not made them extinct has it? No-one's saying that everyone should be homosexual. That would be stupid (except in Lady Land, which is also stupid, but for different reasons). In fact, if everyone were to turn homosexual instantly, that would be a good thing. It'd solve world overpopulation in an instant. In fact, that's one theory I read about homosexuality in humans. It's evolutions way of trying to help us survive. Besides, fifty years? What about all the children?
"So as always homosexuals get special treatment (even tho they don't think so)."
But they don't, unless "special treatment" translates to "keep them away from me, the horror, the horror"...
"There is uproar when a natural heterosexual couple kiss and make out on daytime TV for kids veiwing but hey, lets put 2 girls doing it and confuse our kids more than they already are!"
As far as I know, no gay person has ever complained about heterosexual kissing being viewed by children. After all, that would kind of hurt their own agenda, wouldn't it now?
"A lot of people get cancer, but does that make it normal?"
Err... yes?
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Agreed. Gyaaaah by
on 2009-06-02 13:48:00 UTC
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*cringes* What happened to us not being so bad? *shakes rest of Australia* Wake up, guys, we're supposed to be cool and awesome and tolerant and you are making me want to genocide my own country right now, damnit!
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Your male leader... by
on 2009-06-02 13:44:00 UTC
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... maybe they thought he was transexual? Regardless, epic, epic fail.
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P90 or phaser? by
on 2009-06-02 13:41:00 UTC
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Which to kill every moron in the world with? Hmm... decisions, decisions...
For God's sake, seriously? WTF?
First of all, I should point out that I have no idea what orientation I am. I'm a ''total'' virgin who's never even been kissed. For now, I'll identify as heteroflexible (because Pads thinks it sounds funny).
I'm not exactly a Slash fan, but I think that's more because none of it that I've encountered has been written well at all. If I find a good one, chances are I'd enjoy it regardless of pairing.
I presume that I'd be vaguely uncomfortable with gay people in that, if they start to hit on me, I'll be slightly confused as to how to respond. That's theory as that's not happened to me yet. However, that's nothing bad, because I feel uncomfortable if women hit on me (it happened once :P). I just have no idea what to say, my stammer hits like an anvil dropped from the sodding atmosphere, my head could be mistaken for a tomato. I presume that it'd be the same for gay people.
However, I do support gay relationships and gay rights. I think that Star Trek should have one, even if it's only a minor role at first. No more beating around the bush, an actual proper gay episode. As Gene Roddenbury said "In the 24th century, no-one gives a shit!"
I have at least three bisexual friends, two lesbian and one undecided, on top of my indecision. In fact, the only part of gay rights activism that I don't approve of (that I know about, anyway) is gay couples being allowed to adopt children. This isn't religious fanaticism or mindless homophobia (after all, if I find myself in a homosexual relationship, my views will affect me). This is pity for the child in question. Children can be utter devil-spawn when they want to be. I've bullied to the brink of suicide throughout my life. Can you imagine the type of flak that'd get thrown a child's way if the others found out that they had two fathers or two mothers? I hope that one day, I can support gay adoption, but that day won't be a long time if it's even within my lifetime. That day will only come when homosexuality is accepted for what it is: nothing to be afraid of.
But that's the problem isn't it? This generation's homophobia is infecting the next generation. Our children won't be able to tell that it's wrong if all they see and hear are homophobes ranting mindlessly about shit like this. Therefore, I come back to my original question: P90 or phaser?
Just my two pennies.
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Welcome. Here's a tall ship. (nm) by
on 2009-06-02 11:39:00 UTC
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Hello! Welcome! by
on 2009-06-02 11:09:00 UTC
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Have some Convenient Cake. :)
I see you've already been given The Links, so I won't fuss about that. And you're not alone m'love - quite a few of us, myself included, have furiously-crushed Sue-skeletons in our closet. It's what gives us the right to tell other people they're wrong. :D
Welcome!
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Hiya~ by
on 2009-06-02 10:33:00 UTC
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I comes bearing links. *drags out Big Bag O' Links and digs through it*
First off is the link to the Wiki, a veritable fount of information for a newbie to read through. Especially helpful for you if you want to write missions would be the page on Permission (note the capital P).
I would advise against reading any Legendary Badfic, unless you are of strong mind and stomach. Even the summaries have been known to give those of weaker constitution nightmares.
For your reading pleasure, not knowing what you have already managed to find, I have several links for you. The Original Series (not to be confused with Star Trek) is a good place to start, as the PPC did many aeons ago.What do you mean I'm exaggerating?The Department of Geographical Aberrations is another interesting place to visit, if you have the time and inclination. Also by hS is the Tangled Webs site, which contains backstory for the PPC as an organisation. If you would rather visit the Floaters, then July's site is the place you need to be. And last, but most definitely not least, Response Centre 45 is where Trojie and Pads' missions are archived.
Hope you enjoy your stay here. Please deposit your sanity into the container offered to you by another Boarder; you won't be needing it here.
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Hello! :) by
on 2009-06-02 09:14:00 UTC
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Hi all! Ever since my roommate introduced me to the original PPC missions, I've been a huge fan! As a *ahem* former sue writer myself...*sheepish look* I think this is such a great idea. Haha, maybe one of these days I can atone for my sins by doing some Sue slaying of my own :-P
At any rate, I just wanted to say hello!
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To all defenders of the Warriors continuum by
on 2009-06-02 08:01:00 UTC
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Someone on the good ol' Pit was nice enough to compile a community of the absolute worst godawful Warriors fics: http://www.fanfiction.net/community/TheShitList/65627/
There are also other people whose favorites lists are the fics that have sucked the most. It's a great way to find missions if you feel especially protective of the Warriors fandom.
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*promptly adopts mini* by
on 2009-06-02 05:54:00 UTC
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I'm getting to have a lot of these.
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That's pretty close to how I see it. by
on 2009-06-02 05:50:00 UTC
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Annoying straight people are still annoying, annoying gay people are still annoying, and it doesn't matter much at all. Besides, no one I've seen in the comic so far can possibly be described a shining example of human decency anyway. Especially not Hunter.
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Mini-boarder! by
on 2009-06-02 05:50:00 UTC
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Thirded, just to stay on topic.
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Think it counts as a poison? by
on 2009-06-02 05:34:00 UTC
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I'm just putting it under "miscellaneous" for now.
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your post, in lolcat by
on 2009-06-02 03:55:00 UTC
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Surprisingly enough, iz akshully qwyet gud at eet. It kan translaet nearly anyfin into hilariously childish lolcatees.
naterelly, dis haz spawneded ideaz...
sow heer's mai challenge. Yoo nows awl dat badfic? awl dat *reelee* bad fic, wif moar werdz wron than riet, enough mistakez ta keep teh Authorz gravez spinnin foar anudda millenia or too...
...wud dis tool maeks dem worse, or... bettah?
*grinz evilly adn runz of ta getz moar caffeien*"
hee hee hee
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I second Ungolino's motion. by
on 2009-06-02 02:20:00 UTC
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More information pages are always helpful.
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"Secret weapon" used in mission by
on 2009-06-01 23:10:00 UTC
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In "Scouring a Blue Soap," my agents use a preparation called "44228 Ultra" against a giant Villain!Sam. Although it's not a canon substance per se, it's derived from one. Should it get its own page in case anyone else wants some for their own personal use?
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True. by
on 2009-06-01 22:46:00 UTC
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Are you familiar with the webcomic Suicide For Hire? At one point the main character Hunter is harassed and threatened by a gay guy and ends up warning him off by threatening him at gunpoint. The guy's reaction is to scream "hate crime". Hunter responds that he does indeed hate him, but because of his behaviour rather than his orientation. Storyline starts around here: http://suicideforhire.comicgenesis.com/d/20060920.html
Before anyone gets offended by it, the unfortunate implications caused by the only gay character to appear in the comic so far being, quote, "a vile, disgusting would-be rapist" are mostly cancelled out by the fact that the nature of the comic means all the *straight* people are pretty damn unpleasant individuals as well, Hunter himself actually being possibly the worst.
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Which is precisely why I used him by
on 2009-06-01 22:14:00 UTC
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There are certain aspects of PPC canon that I am fairly sure everyone has forgotten, and thus, I try to use as many as possible (ie. the All-Purpose Department, which only had one set of stories that now only exist on archive.org)
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"Yay, someone kept some of the muffins," said Krisp. by
on 2009-06-01 21:43:00 UTC
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"South, here's your share." Krisp handed him five or six muffins.
"No, thanks, I'm already full and I don't want to start a vomit fight."
"'kay, thanks." Krisp ate the muffins except the last one, that What' snatched.
"Thanks."
"Hey, what the heck!"
The Trio resumed the Silly String fight.
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cheers, I'm going to need it ... (nm) by
on 2009-06-01 21:21:00 UTC
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