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Well, I know that TOS sent at least one Canon Replacement 'Sue to OFUM for extermination. I imagine that if OFU characters are acceptable forms of punishment, there's some wiggle room for using other goodfic canons. The rescue and use of plotholed canons is really the only other close thing we've had before. Except for Team Phoenix...(http://www.misssandman.com/PPC/Pranksters.html) Hmm. Couldn't say.

Kerowyn, Mercedes Lackey's Valdemar books. Mercenary captain (it took her an altogether appropriate length of time to train and work her way to that position), Herald of Valdemar, owner of a magic sword that's really inconvenient to its bearer. The pb cover annoys me (to the extent that I wrote a term paper on it), because the picture has her in a silly, silly suit of armor with long flowing hair, etc. that she would never wear.

Likewise her teacher, the Shin'a'in Tarma. Goddess-bonded warrior. Celibate, sarcastic swordswoman.

Mirax Terrik, Star Wars. She's primarily a smuggler, but her cleverness, resource, and common sense sometimes end up in a firefight, where she keeps her cool well.

Polly Perks, Discworld. She is a soldier. That's really all there is to it. She is a successful (i.e. passing) crossdresser, but doesn't turn into a bombshell when in girly clothes.


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I would just like to put in a plug for a series of anthologies related to this. The first is called "Chicks in Chainmail" and they are edited by Esther Friesner. They deal with exactly this topic--how to write the warrior woman without turning her into a pinup girl or losing her sense of humor. They're hilarious, frankly, and well written.

I think it's hard to find the balance. I mean, we're dealing with centuries of gender roles on the one hand--the ones that say good women are good mothers, homemakers, etc.--and the new feminism on the other hand, which says good women should be able and even want to do everything that men do. If you get a female character behaving like the classic woman, she's weak or at best oppressed according to the new standards; but if you get a female character behaving like a man, she's too outspoken, too forward, unfeminine, etc., by the old standards. There's a place in between, but it's hard to get there.

I think it's a mistake to completely devalue the old standards, even as we move forward and add new ones, like intelligence, ability, and self-confidence. It's a mistake to exclude anyone from becoming strong in any area if that's their nature, and that includes men.

~Neshomeh, who is neither girly nor tomboyish, but her own brand of human person.

Isn't that illegal or something?

Eh. I'm ceasing to care. I don't want to be associated with a place where it's effectively okay to send death threats to kids. If we can't fix it, I'm using that auto-spam thing to send porn to the support address and cutting my losses ... well, cutting my losses at least, I don't know if I'd dare to do the other bit, but it's fun to dream.

Oooh.

XD Yaap~
Oooh, new nickname!

Ah, that's alright.
Oooh... -pokes- :O

Aye-aye! -salutes-

Late greetings are still very welcome~ And oooh, thank you~ :O Very true, very true... I'll watch out for that.

More late greetings, but welcoming nonetheless! I gift you with some twolips from Xanth. Admire the pretty flowers, but don't get too close unless you want to be kissed. And I'm pretty sure they're not sentient, but you never know around here.

and every griefer on the net.

Kylara Vatta (Vatta's War; Elizabeth Moon) attended Space Force Academy and then, sometime in her last semester, got kicked out for political reasons. She rejoins her family's space shipping business shortly before it is attacked and nearly destroyed by a coalition of pirates, whom she eventually manages to build up a force to defeat. Also, she often wears a spacesuit (really the only thing reasonable when you're in a spaceship that could get blown up).

Paksenarrion Dorthansdotter (The Deed of Paksenarrion; Elizabeth Moon) A shepherd's daughter fleeing an unwanted marriage joins a mercenary company. The books were written as a rebuttal to how the author was told paladins in role-playing games were often played, so Paks is unfailingly humble and, though she eventually succeds at most of her aims, goes through a lot of grief (including four straight days of torture).

Firekeeper (Firekeeper Saga; Jane Lindskold) A girl raised by (sentient) wolves is found by an expedition that set out to find the village founded by a disinherited prince (because his father is getting old, his siblings are dead, and his daughter is technically the next in succession). Her only posessions are a dagger and a set of flint and steel, both of which she is quite proficient at using. Although she is clever, she's also quite savage and has several opportunities to learn the value of armor. (Naturally, growing up in a forest had already taught her the value of short hair, and she did have that dagger to cut with.)

There was someone else, whom I will doubtless remember as soon as I post.

I already had quite a bit of respect for her but after Syaoran told her he liked Sakura... She handled that very well, didn't she? Wished him the best and waited until she was safely in Tomoyo's arms to burst into tears. She even gave Syaoran advice and gave Sakura hints that he liked her! The female characters who are in love with male characters destined to end up with another are very rarely handle rejection well and are very rarely even taken seriously. I was happy with Meilin. I can't believe she never showed up in TRC.


I am not surprised you cannot explain your admiration of Yuuko. It's difficult enough explaining Yuuko at all.

Aeryn Sun kicks butt. Actually, so do most of the women on that show. Chiana has her ways, Zhaan will take you down if you're really annoying, Sikozu (although Not Nice), Jool... eh, well, Jool. ^_^; Anyway, Aeryn is just particularly awesome in that regard.

~Neshomeh

Rilwen's in.

Cavan wants to sneak in, being androgynous and prepared to crossdress for it.

I think it'd depend on if the mods ever check the support inbox and how many people join.

Imagine logging on one day and seeing a few hundred reports for the same troll. Heh.

just now, I see that you are in Alas Babylon. Silly meh.

I shall name you Kasu-Tiff. Yes, I do realize the nickname ought to be shorter than the real name. :P I hope you are not insulted by the sheer randomness of it.

What a late greetings it is.

*presents with large block of Blumble ice*

Use this with care. xD

Of course Yuuko is in there! *is not able to fully explain admiration of Yuuko*

Meilin, I really liked after the Twin cards. I think her loyalty is impressive.