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Stop making jokes. It is a bullying tactic. If you can state your point logically, things will go smoother.

Okay. Explain to the class how having trouble with a thing and not wanting to do the thing cannot be correctly described as not liking that thing.

~Neshomeh

I'm pretty sure that your brain just short-circuits whenever someone tells you why they're mad at you, but let's try an easy one that I may or may not have told you before.

I am angry because you assume people can read your mind when you use vague terms, and then you turn it into their fault for not understanding you. 'Obviously I meant this definition' even though other definitions make more sense.

No, actually. You are legitimately, factually wrong. We have listened. We have treated you fairly. Maybe the initial ban was wrong in your eyes, but it was exactly that -- in your eyes. Not ours. Also, while we may have made mistakes, we identified them and changed. You didn't.

No-one mocked you for unclear instruction. hS is a better person then I for volunteering to slog through that list of demands you want from us, and made it very, very clear from the start that all we want is to be left alone, and you made it very, very clear that, no matter what we do, you won't.

I had nothing to do with this last time I spoke to you. I wanted to understand why you were so persistent, and perhaps come to an agreement. All you did was convince me that no such thing would happen. Even after all this time, you still haven't stepped back and looked objectively at what's happened. Maybe you can't. I had nothing to do with you, but you managed to turn me away from wanting anything to do with you. Perhaps this may help you understand that you are not in the right, but alas it is doubtful.

Just... leave us alone. You'll never get want you want from us, because what you want is unreasonable.

I will not be responding to any replies you leave.

See, by providing transcripts and quotes in their full context that prove beyond all doubt that Bram is talking through her hat, you're challenging her version of events with one that can't be real because it doesn't line up to the one in her head! And that means you're doing a gaslighting! Presumably! Somehow! I don't actually know what the word means but I know that it's bad, so that must mean that you, Nesh - in your official capacity as The Bad People - must be doing it!

I am very intelligent and this means I am always right about everything, and anyone who challenges me is Doing A Gaslighting because I can never ever possibly be wrong!

This is how logic works!

Have I mentioned you're the narcissist in this conversation yet?

What I was doing was directly stealing your idea of turning the whole thing into a comic strip. My strip was four panels directly quoting this thread, with you drawn based on Disney's Sleeping Beauty, and myself cast as Hades. That thread was chosen because you selected it in your 3000-word screed as an example of... something, I don't even know. Not of you having trouble with instructions, because there was never any instruction implying you should post saying 'Permission request' when you weren't requesting permission.

I took it down because it served no useful purpose, and I didn't think it had been up long enough for anyone to have seen it.

If you would like to create a webcomic quoting everything with all applicable context, go wild; I doubt anyone anywhere will care.

hS

> I'm not convinced the article is actually confusing as-is, since we've had all of one person (who is self-admittedly confused a lot) say so,
>
> ~Neshomeh 19:41, August 10, 2014 (UTC)

Your lack of reading comprehension is not our fault. Go away.

~Neshomeh

You're mocking me for not understanding unclear instructions. Besides, this is the version of "How to Find a Beta" I had read. https://ppc.fandom.com/wiki/Beta_Reader?oldid=23498

Also, the talk page on Permission shows that you and Neshomeh talked about it as if I wasn't the only one who was a problem.

Maybe instead of just dismissing "person is confused," you should have tried to explain it and used my feedback to make the instructions better? Once I said that the instructions were confusing, the responsibility passed to other people.

I could make a comic about how people here just don't understand why I'm angry even though I keep trying to tell people.

People here have persisted in picking and choosing what they will listen to in order to twist my words, and I have complained more than once, and I have said at least once to stop twisting things.

You tried to insist that I promise you to give you what you want whether or not I get what I want. In theory, you could call me a liar and a troll and insist that I promised to leave you alone. I'm not going to list the options of what will convince me to leave you alone, because you might come up with something palatable to us both that I haven't thought of. The short version is that I want to be treated fairly, or that other people be called out for not being held to the same standards as I.

All of the conversations got shut down because someone got insulted and didn't even wait for an apology. I do have tone problems that I didn't know about, but it still looks like every one of those people can't handle criticism.

Go ahead and confront me on Reddit. Right now, there is a hierarchy where it's hard to disagree with the leadership. You've acknowledged that there is a problem with some people having more authority, and it's been brought up that people who have been here longer can get away with more. Out in the wild, someone might be willing to tell you that you're wrong.

You don't get to pull the "end of our tether" crap on me because I have been for more patient and gotten crap for finally getting angry enough to say something.

The "just go" part has not helped in the slightest. As long as I can't let my mind wander or reliably sleep, I'm going to keep bothering you, unless you can give me something else worthy of keeping it to myself.

This is the complete transcript of that conversation, which you persist in picking and choosing random lines from to try and present your lies as truth. You know perfectly well the reason I shut that discussion down, so quit this game of claiming you don't.

People have tried talking to you. So many people have tried talking to you, listening to you, discussing with you. You have been heard out. We just don't agree with you.

I am well aware of what you've been posting to Reddit: the way you've taken my words and Neshomeh's out of context (the context being that we are all way past the end of our tether with your constant harassment) to try and get sympathy, and have still largely failed; the way you've sought out people to harass us on your behalf; the way you have been told by literally dozens of people with no connection to the PPC that the way to deal with the 'narcissistic bullies' is to leave them behind.

And that really is all you have to do. I know of only one instance when someone from the PPC came after you elsewhere, and as soon as we knew, we said on the Board that it was inappropriate. Just go away, and the PPC will never bother you again.

Do you know how sorely tempted I've been to go to your forums, when you're actually attacking me on them, and give them the evidence of how big a liar you are? But I haven't, and I never will. Hell, I'm not even going to tell you to stop - go on, keep casting me as the villain for not wanting to get into an endless discussion about whether Neshomeh and Eatpraylove both using the word 'second' is some kind of plot against you. I hope the endless series of 'you haven't really given enough information to know what's going on' responses makes you deeply happy inside.

But leave us alone. Please. For the love of God. Just go.

hS

On this point:

'While I will not intend to insult you, some things may come off that way, so I insist that you not shut this down just because you feel hurt. Most importantly you must not assume my intentions or say that I am lying when I explain them.'

Agreed, provided you are willing to promise the same.

hS

Another discord I'm on uses this, I'm not sure what the bot/plugin is but it's really helpful.

I'm low on things to say at the moment, but I liked Fandom for Robots, and I thought people here would too.

As a bonus, Meetings for Robots is a quite good fanfic for said story, and I recommend it too.

It's a bit shorter than the last one since the fic was just not the kind of bad that I could make funny - 3494 words long.

Looking for the usual things - PPC canon, style and flow.

I have virtual cookies!

https://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/07/fanfictionfridaythepokemon_story.php

This is not an MST.

We have criteria for adding new Legendaries. Can you show us if this fic meets them? A link to it would help, too, so that anyone who's interested can judge for themselves.

And, just a reminder: We're about a lot more than the most disgusting badfic the Internet can vomit up. Obsessing over that stuff is not good; in fact, it's creepy. Be sure to engage with other topics while you're here.

~Neshomeh

Although I'm not sure this is "sad" so much. Maybe more like "lonely".

—doctorlit, randomly knowing some random songs

The only one I really listen to with any sort of regularity, though, would be David Tennant Does a Podcast.

Now, I obviously listen to it out of an obsession with Doctor Who (he did an interview with Jodie Whittaker a ways back, and I love to hear two Doctors talking to one another and pretend I'm contributing to my acting career while I just go whole hog on my obsession with fandom), but Tennant's style of really just trying to sit down and have a conversation, rather than go anywhere in particular, is one that I found myself surprisingly drawn to.

I've also found that a number of his questions, and their respective answers, are good for getting an insider's viewpoint in the entertainment industry, obviously with a focus on acting. That much is a big draw for me personally.

But overall, it's just a nice, relaxing podcast hosted by the Tenth Doctor.

Dunno if that really helps anyone, but I felt like mentioning it just in case.

This notorious Pokemon squickfic involves beastiality, lolicon and research failure. It's worse than it sounds.

Or rather, link back to this page. =P

But it definitely explicitly happened in-text here, and that's what I was thinking about.

- Tomash

Given doctorlit's (and Phobos') comments on Agent!Thoth's arrogance, I'm curious about what your read on it was before this story. Anything you recall?

Either way, thanks!

~Neshomeh

I'd forgotten about "Dimming of the Day," which I knew from the Bonnie Raitt cover. I like that, it's powerful, but the original is so very sweet. <3

Richard Shindell is new to me, and wow. Dunno if I get the song, but wow, what a voice he's got, and that guitar is gorgeous. *wipes up drool*

What is it with water and love songs, eh?

~Neshomeh