Subject: So far, so good
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Posted on: 2013-08-06 20:22:00 UTC

It seems like you got the traits of a Sue mainly correct over the course of the article. However, I disagree somewhat with the definition: "an unintentionally flat fictional character."

I think that your usage of "unintentionally" is in order to separate Sues from trollfic characters. If so, my opinion is that that distinction needs to be fleshed out in the article, but not necessarily mentioned in the definition.

Also, since you distinguished between Sues and bits ("It's perfectly fine to intentionally design a one-note character to enter, play their part, and exit, but if the main character—the one who has to engage the readers and carry them through the story—never develops, that's a sign of poor characterization and story-telling.") then maybe your definition should say "an unintentionally flat fictional main character."

However, I have been quite a fan of the formulation that you made quite a while ago: a Sue "A. does not behave like a believable-for-the-context person, B. does not get believable-for-the-context treatment from others, and C. is successful just because the plot says so." So let me suggest this to the Board: perhaps that should be the definition, since I believe we all agree that that is the essence of what a Sue is and does.

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