Oooh, look, I'm only jumping in when Trojie did, same as other people were accused of. Bad me.

I've been watching this thread since July decided to say something, and it's been a couple of days, and we've heard nothing from Fichunter. There has been no response to this entire thread from her/him. That in itself says a lot. The entire thread seems to contain references to "senior" Board members, and that's not the way it's meant to work here, which means, in effect, anyone can object, but few dare to. So kudos to July for being the one who dared to.

And I will also volunteer to look at your stuff, Lynxihez, and quibble with you over any Sueish aspects and how to make them non-Sueish. Glod knows, as other Boarders could tell you, I've been critical enough of late when it comes to potential Sueishness; it'd be a fine thing to see a Sue whose author actually wants to fix her, and be able to help with that. Even if you're not planning to publish anywhere (even online), we're still happy to talk over how and why you're writing, and happy to try to help you improve.

It's just that I, being overcautious about offending people (and admittedly not having an excellent memory for who has done what), would find it very hard to do what July did, and say what needed to be said. Thus, I admire the fact that she did it, and wanted to say so. It was meant as a careful compliment.

Everything else I might say in response here has already been said - thanks, July. Le Jai, I really appreciate you sticking up for us.

And cga? Just to make a personal note, I don't think you were being insolent (not that I'm even close to being a senior member); you were being honest. Inaccurate, in my opinion, but honest. Not rude. Sharp, perhaps, but not rude, and sharp isn't necessarily a bad thing. In any case, I'm glad you said what you think instead of keeping quiet.

Ah, just sorta interrupting here, but... I've seen some of the shock /b/ material July is talking about. It's not really PPC fare. At all. Considering, most especially, that there are members that aren't even fifteen yet. People shouldn't have to look at that if they don't want to, especially if it's something like /b/-stuff. And I'm a lurker/Noob myself, so, just saying and all. And if you're here, you should know that an Agent has to be good to get into the PPC; you can't just throw a Stu together and expect to get in. It's just not the way things work. I'm almost positive my possible-agent-idea isn't going to be good enough, and I am always thinking of how to make it better. You can't simply just assume yours is good enough.

Also, out of curiosity, do you know Fichunter at all? Have you seen his posts, etc? Because if you haven't, I think it's kind of rude for you to be jumping down Sedri and July's throats for telling him the truth about his likelihood of getting in. If they think he's not got a good chance, he's probably not got a good chance.

And I really probably oughtn't be sticking my nose in, but as someone who respects July, Sedri and the other Mid- and Old-bies.

So, apologies for jumping in where my opinion likely isn't wanted, but I felt I had to say something.

And while my response isn't nearly as well thought out or as definitive as July's, I still feel the need to put it out there.

And now, I return to my lurking, and enjoying everyone else's interesting-ness on the board.

Being 'kind' was not the first concern when I wrote that post. It wasn't even a main concern. I'm not going to be kind when stating my opinion, and the truth is, that's my opinion. I typed all of that because I believe that's the case. I even said that at the very first. "I'm not a Permission Giver, but I'd just like to put out my opinion here. "

And I said nothing, nothing at all about Fichunter's writing style. What I said regarding his posts here is that he posts rarely, and whenever he posts something that other people call him out for, he ignores it for a few days and then maybe replies. One of the things that is asked that a person do before they ask for Permission is to be active on the board. A half dozen posts a month that are mostly one-liners is hardly active.

As to Fichunter himself, I don't think saying that it seems like someone is showboating themselves, making people uncomfortable due to posting a link (on two different occasions) to a website full of things like bestiality, bad porn, and grotesque death images, or sticking to posting in threads where 'prominent' people have posted is being insulting. When you're only posting in a thread because people like that have posted in it, that's more of an insult. All I was doing was stating what the situation looked like.

And when the point of the PPC is to be a fun thing that kills Stus and Sues and other badfic things, having an Agent that is a Stu is against the point. When at one point your Agent is described as reading "...the entirety of Celebrian out loud without bleep-products or showing any disgust, (perhaps the sadistic grin was enough) and won the use of their bleepsinthe for 'whenever'" "In an act of true insanity, and a bet between him and the bad slashers" alongside "He also enjoys sadisticly [sic] "enlightening" the newbies about the many kinds of sex fetishes that suethors love to thinkup [sic] and why glue is not lube." this is less an Agent and more a Stu that's copying the characters of other Agents. He only changed all of that after several people read his article for Janus and commented on the talk page thinking he was a troll.

Also, I'm not sure where I'm insulting 'insulting... everything they stand for' but if I managed that, I'm definitely impressed with myself. I never even managed to do that when I was a flamer and was trying to do that!

And everyone is entitled to an opinion, cga. Even if it's wrong, crass, insolent, rude, stupid, over egotistical, silly, or insulting to someone else. After all, I'm not sure about you, but I don't live under a totalitarian dictatorship where having an opinion is wrong. Plus, there's nothing wrong with what you said, you're definitely not being insolent. Maybe cheeky.

And no, you can't get kicked from the board for being rude, and definitely not for being rude to me. Besides, you weren't even rude here. If you thought you were being rude, you need to stop being so nice. Fynn could probably do something about it though, I imagine.

Also, long post is long. o.o;