-The original extract (two posts) was brought to me by Iximaz, who did of course also address it directly.
-I have no knowledge of who gave the extract to Iximaz.
-I obtained the full transcript from a third party who I knew could provide it.
-There doesn't seem to be much difference between 'tell the person who might be offended' and 'invoke the Wrath of hS', except that I am not actually an attack-dog who can be aimed at whoever people please, and so telling me is probably less likely to set things off.
hS
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Relevant facts: by
on 2018-01-28 12:15:00 UTC
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Communication by
on 2018-01-28 11:26:00 UTC
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So, er, considering I was one of the people with the dismaying and inappropriate behaviour, I can understand taking what I say with a grain of salt and such, but so on, so forth. Also, pardon for being so late, but I didn't want to add my own thoughts to such a raw situation I was a part of, and, well, I dunno, better to say something than nothing at all, right?
I don't think hS was necessarily entirely in the wrong, in this situation. Consider the fact that he's just sort of sat there, then someone comes to him telling him of bad things happening in the Discord - again - and that he and he alone ought to be the one who sorts this all out. It's a disconcerting situation, and I can entirely see why that would lead to him wanting to make a Board post. The very act of it being brought to him was escalating the situation into 'Major Drama' and that's not really the fault of hS. Though it was hS' ultimate choice to, obviously, make the Board post, I can entirely see the processing that led to him making said post.
I think the most questionable part comes in from whoever it was who went to hS in the first place. You have, here, a person who is concerned about the direction in which a situation is going, but doesn't say a single thing about it, and instead silently goes off and reports it to someone considered a 'higher up', as it were.
I disagree with this.
We needed - at least, I know I did - to be encountered on our behaviour, no doubt. And I appreciate that, and I'm glad we have a community that expects people to be encountered on bad behaviour. But, then, as Quince mentioned way earlier, why weren't we messaged at the time?
And I can understand, as well, the idea of bringing issues to the Board. That's a thing we do, so that we have a wider variety of opinions on a situation, don't lock certain people out of a decision that may affect them, and all. But in almost every previous occasion we had something brought to the Board, we all knew about it. It was mentioned in chat and we all agreed 'sure, bring it to the Board.' Our latest situation certainly wasn't!
Had there been better communication, this situation wouldn't have blown up nearly to the proportions it would have. There was no reason at all for Quincy and I to have not been contacted beforehand, whether through PM or just through the PPC Lounge chat itself. Were we really acting so irrationally as to have been totally unreachable at the time, leaving the only reasonable option being getting hS?
I don't like this attitude conveyed. I like to think we're all reasonable and mature enough to be able to stick a hand on each other's shoulders and say 'hey, you're out of line, cut it out.' and reply 'Oh, you're right, sorry.' and finish it off right then and there, without any needless escalation or unnecessary legality. I'm disappointed that we're not even trusted to be able to do that.
And I don't like the Orwellian sense that there is a person - or persons - sat there silently watching for anyone to mess up so they can instantly bring it in front of everyone, to hS, to the Board, without them even knowing about it at all until it suddenly pops up on the Board out of nowhere. There's obviously situations - have been situations - where a situation has to be brought up to hS, but I disagree with how that was the first solution, to the extent that Quincy had to ask if hS' Board post was about her.
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Gall grinned. "Ooh, lucky you." by
on 2018-01-28 04:43:52 UTC
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"That is some premium-grade Monstrous Nightmare gel, locally sourced from my boy Fellrazer here." She patted the blue, dog-sized dragon at her side, who parted his jaws in a toothy grin. "Coat something with that, and it'll burn. Hot." She turned from Ami to the other agents. "And there's more where that came from! If you're interested, come to Response Center 1110 with a reasonable offer, and we'll talk. No Zorkmids, though. Fellrazer Brand Monstrous Nightmare Gel: Get It While It's Hot!"
Her partner gave a long-suffering sigh. "Gall. Are you going to choose a gift today?" He gestured at the remaining Party Balls.
"Oh, right." The Viking went up to the pile, stared at it a moment with her lips pursed, then stuck her hand in and snagged one. She offered it to Fellrazer to sniff. He nudged it with his snout, licked it, tilted his head, and attempted to eat it.
Gall yanked it back. "Okay, good enough for me!" She shoved the dragon's snout down with one hand and opened the ball with the other. Out popped the distinctive form of a lightsaber handle. Gall's face lit with glee, and she eagerly scooped it up. "Is this what I think it is?" She toggled the control—and immediately flinched away from the bright urple beam. "Aw, no! Why would you do that?!" She held it as far away from herself as she could.
Fellrazer, too, hissed and backed away from the urple 'saber.
Derik laughed, although he was careful not to turn his good eye in Gall's direction.
(( For the record, I rolled a d20 to make it a random selection. More fun that way.(( A little more info on Monstrous Nightmare gel: it is bright lime green, and similar in action to kerosene gel or napalm. ))
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RP thread by
on 2018-01-28 03:31:00 UTC
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GMA had a good point about how there wasn't much on-Board RP happening these days down below, so I decided to do something about it. Namely, I quickly jotted down a paragraph of starter for RP set in Rudi's Pub (which is, among other things, the default setting for RP on the Discord) and started a thread on T-Board.
Said RP thread is here. Everything is quite open ended so, uh, yeah, have fun.
- Tomash
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Farah Tahar stood near the bar, flipping through a menu. by
on 2018-01-28 03:27:17 UTC
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She had decided that, since she was now in some sort of multiversal hub, she might as well expand her drink orders a bit. This turned out to be rather complicated, as, even with the "things I can drink" filter on, the drink list was still quite long, which made actually picking something to order rather difficult.
Eventually, she lowered the menu and started glancing around, hoping to catch the eye of someone who looked like they knew what they were doing.
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(( General Rudi's RP thread, take N )) by
on 2018-01-28 03:21:41 UTC
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Rudi's Pub was moderately busy. Agents, Operations staff, and the various other denizens of HQ (along with the occasional person who'd fallen in from elsewhere with a thump) came in and out, looking for food, drink, and/or company. They seated themselves at the bar or at one of the many tables and booths throughout the place. There was a moderate background buzz of conversation in the room, but not enough to make anyone nearby hard to hear.
(( - Tomash ))
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That was pretty funny by
on 2018-01-28 03:12:00 UTC
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It's actually funnier now that I'm reading the whole series in order, rather than seeing parts of it for beta-reading. It's all rather hilariously surreal, and you've got a nice descriptive and imaginative narrative voice.
Basically, this feels very PPC, and, uh, yeah. I'm bad at reviews. I'm working on it, sort of.
- Tomash
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"Nah, the Equestria Girls movies have their own albums," said Ami. by
on 2018-01-27 23:04:26 UTC
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"The one I got you has a few of the more popular songs from seasons one and two of the show. Hope you enjoy them!"
She trotted up to the stage. "Let's see here...gah, it's so much harder to choose when they all look the same." Her horn lit up and a party ball at the back of the pile levitated towards her.
"If she gets my present I'm gonna laugh," said Miguel.
The Party Ball opened, and a jam jar full of a strange gel landed on the stage. "Well, this is...interesting..."
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Happy birthday! :D by
on 2018-01-27 20:24:00 UTC
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Glad to hear this place has done so much for you. Have some sticky notes shaped like cats!
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Hap Birth! :D *tosses Spikes* (nm) by
on 2018-01-27 17:54:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday, Thoth! (nm) by
on 2018-01-27 17:39:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday! by
on 2018-01-27 16:09:00 UTC
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I'm glad you were able to have a good experience here!
Anyway, have a triple chocolate (as in chocolate with chocolate chips and chocolate icing) cupcake, and don't forget to blow out the candle and make a wish!
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Happ Birth! :> /Optional!Hugs (nm) by
on 2018-01-27 15:16:00 UTC
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Happy Birthday, Thoth! by
on 2018-01-27 13:52:00 UTC
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Have an ENIAC!
I do hope you have somewhere to put it.
- Tomash
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Happy birthday! (nm) by
on 2018-01-27 13:05:00 UTC
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It's my birthday! by
on 2018-01-27 12:58:00 UTC
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I am now 17 years old! Which is cool, I guess.
And in that time... Jeez. I've been in the PPC for about half a year. And if you had told me in Augest, when I posted that hesitant introduction on the board, where I'd be now? That I would be in the middle of a co-write that was also my first PPC mission? That I would meet people who would become my close friends? That I'd have opened up to myself and my family about my sexuality? That I would be a happier, healthier, more confident person? And that it would be thanks to you guys?
I'd have thought you were mad.
Thank you, everyone. You, all of you, this place, changed my life. And it changed it for the better.
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Speaking of Latias' Journey... by
on 2018-01-26 17:12:00 UTC
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Y'know how Brave New World (the sequel fic) is on hiatus?
Well, Ri2 said he'd get back to it after finishing Sonic Origins...
Which just wrapped up this week. So, there's that to consider.
Speaking on the second matter, I'm surprised Sweet Apple Massacre wasn't already on the list.
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Important: Please stop bothering JulyFlame. by
on 2018-01-26 15:51:00 UTC
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It's come to my attention that multiple individuals have taken it upon themselves to contact JulyFlame about things happening on the Board or in the Discord. I don't have names, so this is a general missive: If you've done it, you need to stop. If you're thinking about it, you need to not start.
Please understand that July has left the PPC, and she does not want to be contacted about anything PPC-related, at all, ever. Especially not drama.
Let me make it abundantly clear: Do not contact JulyFlame about anything PPC-related, at all, ever.
Now that this has been made abundantly clear, any further incidents of people bothering July about the PPC will unquestionably constitute harassment and will warrant consequences. Don't do it. If it happens, I will hear about it.
On a related note, July also does not want any of her personal characters to be used or referenced. She stated this when she left. Some of you may not have known that, others may have forgotten, so this is a gentle reminder. Things from her stories that are part of the shared universe are okay, but leave July's personal characters out of it.
Thank you.
~Neshomeh
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Current state of the amendments. by
on 2018-01-26 09:52:00 UTC
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Harassment Amendment
See the document. The following points are currently being discussed:
-Does Article 4 need a rider about harassment in someone's absence?
-What should we add to Article 8 to highlight that flaming/trolling in the PPC's name is Bad? The current suggestion reads: The PPC does not condone any form of trolling or flaming, of anyone.
-In Article 10, can we strike the last sentence?
-Should the following sentence be struck from Article 11: Remember the foundation of respect that the PPC community is built on (see Article 1).
-Should Article 13 be cut, and its first sentence appended to Article 10?
Current Ratifications: Huinesoron, Tomash, doctorlit, Neshomeh, Thoth, Matt Cipher, twistedwindowpane, The Good Mod Addict.
Ratifications from previously: Hieronymus Graubart, Scapegrace, Aegis(?)
Current status: 11(10?)/12 ratifications; probably can be considered ratified unless major changes occur/someone disapproves.
Discussion Amendment:
Section Four: On Thy Topics Of Discussion
16. If you feel something (e.g. a story, some news, a website, a salmon cannon) might be of interest to the PPC, please go ahead and bring it up. Don't worry about your interests being too eclectic, either — someone's likely to be interested.
17. The PPC community thrives on discussion, and wastes away in its absence. When you post a thread on the Board, try to do so in a way that encourages discussion and interaction. If you're posting links, you're encouraged to expand on them somewhat.
17.5 The PPC has always been about having a good laugh at badfic, so feel free to talk about it, and post links if you find something you think is worth sharing. If there's a thread about badfic on the top half of the front page already, go ahead and add to that - otherwise, feel free to create your own! (And when replying to a thread about badfic, or reviewing a badfic, please remember Article 2!)
18. That doesn't mean the PPC is Serious Business! Silliness and insanity are welcome here — even encouraged. Feel free to leave your sanity at the door. Most PPCers do.
19. There is no Article 19.
I feel 17.5 might need a bit of tweaking to account for its position as a rider, but it can also stand as it is. (Nesh - the Harassment Amendment changes these numbers anyway).
Current ratifications: Huinesoron, Thoth, Tomash, doctorlit, The Good Mod Addict, Neshomeh, twistedwindowpane.
Ratifications from previously: Iximaz.
Current status: 8/8. Will be ratified unless disapproved of.
Chitchat Amendment:
(As Article 17.5 in the Discussion Amendment, or 23 in the current Constitution)
17.5. Sometimes, a discussion between just a few people takes on epic proportions. If this happens, it might be best to take it to the Lounge, or to private emails, rather than consume the Board with your enthusiasm.
Current disapprovals: Huinesoron, Thoth, Tomash, doctorlit, Neshomeh, The Good Mod Addict.
Current status: Yeah, I think we can class this as officially rejected.
More comments are always most welcome. The best Constitution is one that as many people as possible have contributed to.
hS
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So far I'm fine with the new amendments... by
on 2018-01-26 00:07:00 UTC
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But then again, I'm not too good at judging this type of thing. I especially can't predict if I'll end up bringing any of this on my head, so apologies in advance.
Yep. It's decided. I'm not going to partake in the Discord. Hearing about Discord drama on the Board throws me for enough of a loop already.
-Twistey
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Okay, that explains it. Thank you. Sounds fun! (nm) by
on 2018-01-25 23:37:00 UTC
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Heehee, this was fun. by
on 2018-01-25 23:31:00 UTC
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I particularly liked "Do Mustafar shadow-demons have wings?" Excellent question, well worth debating.
I nominate Urag gro-Shub of the Mages' College of Winterhold for a position on the list of Most Dedicated Librarians. He's an Orc, both defying and living up to cultural stereotypes in pursuit of his calling. Not even the Arch-Mage is above his rule in the Arcaneum. He's one of my favorite NPCs in Skyrim. ^_^
~Neshomeh
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Hehe. Okay, thanks. (nm) by
on 2018-01-25 22:24:00 UTC
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Er, phrasing by
on 2018-01-25 22:23:00 UTC
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Yes, I agreed with that part, too. I'm not sure why I specified only for hS. I think I just assumed that it was also agreed with, or such.
It was, uh, quite late at night when I typed that.
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This was a neat thing by
on 2018-01-25 22:08:00 UTC
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Information-retrieval "missions" is a nice concept, the gaggle of kids asking silly questions was a nice touch, and it's really good to see the universe being expanded generally.
- Tomash