A) Won't comment on this, since I am not writing from the prompts.
B) I think a better question is: Do you, Novastorme, want to continue posting prompts? If 'yes' then please continue to post prompts. If 'no' then maybe someone else will step up. If 'sometimes' then maybe find a partner and pass the responsibility back and forth between you.
C) I don't think it matters where a prompt comes from. If you don't have time/energy/inspiration to come up with a new prompt, then absolutely use any resource you have access to. It can be a lot of work coming up with something specific enough to speak to people, but broad enough not to write itself, and we understand that.
Remember, you haven't been at this long and it can take some time to figure out what works. Try not to get discouraged when a prompt doesn't grab your audience. That is going to happen, and that isn't a reflection on you. All you can do is keep trying, learning, and working to improve. Eventually you will look back and be amazed at how far you've come.
-Phobos
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Some responses by
on 2018-01-24 14:45:00 UTC
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Let's not. by
on 2018-01-24 13:52:00 UTC
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No summary would be adequate, and I don't believe rehashing everything would be constructive at this time. I'm not having this turn around into a big blow-out in the other direction. It's not warranted.
If you all really want all the information, we do have an archive. You are free to look through it and see everything in context there.
~Neshomeh
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Yes, I don't care, just make it up (nm) by
on 2018-01-24 12:52:00 UTC
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Earthsea is required reading for my course. by
on 2018-01-24 08:27:00 UTC
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Ursula K. LeGuin was a fearless and tireless campaigner for the rights of the marginalized and dispossessed, both in speculative fiction and the wider world. She was a champion of the oppressed and the silenced and I would like to remember her thus:-
The time she ripped up the script to a whitewashed Earthsea TV adaptation
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Prompt Wonderings by
on 2018-01-24 08:14:00 UTC
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So I know I've been trying to put up a writing prompt every other Thursday for a few weeks now (tomorrow will be the third one from me), and I am aware that a) the last prompt I gave was really not good (Sorry) and b) probably as a consequence not many people responded to it. But I was thinking about things for the future.
A) Do people still want a prompt going up every other week? If not is that because you want a shorter/longer gap between them, or do you not want it at all?
B) Who do you want posting the prompt? I don't mind if you'd prefer someone else posting it, honest.
C) What sort of prompt do you want? Do you want the person doing it to make it up? Do you want it from some website's prompt of the day? Where do you want the prompt coming from?
Nova.
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Yeah, elaboration would be nice by
on 2018-01-24 05:35:00 UTC
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I am mostly a lurker, I know, but I would also like more info. Especially since this isn't the first time I have seen that name mentioned in relation to a supposed pattern of drama.
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Here's what I'd like to see going forward. by
on 2018-01-24 04:41:00 UTC
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(This topic being discussed in a separate thread from the amendments seems like a good idea to me, even if it was an accident.)
I think I've seen all the apologies I need to see except possibly one: whoever felt the need to fan the flames of Ix's trust issues by telling them people were discussing them in the chat. That's the one piece of this that doesn't make any sense to me at all, and I'd love an explanation.
I had a lot that I wanted to say about a lot of things, but it got late, and my brain isn't working so well. But in light of everything that's been discussed today, I do wish to suggest the following:
- Iximaz stays entirely out of the Discord. They are avoiding the place for a reason, and I suspect it's a good one. Let's make it a clean break. People can check the Board for new posts themselves, or someone else can carry the news in.
- Nobody reports on what goes on in the Discord to Iximaz. They are avoiding the place for a reason, and I suspect it's a good one. Respect that.
- Going forward, nobody in the PPC Discord discusses Iximaz at all. They are avoiding the place for a reason, and I suspect it's a good one. Respect that. If you have something to say to or about them, good or bad, do it on the Board. (And btw, do try not to discuss anyone behind their back. If you have a problem with someone, tell them to their face [following the Constitution, of course]. If you have good thoughts about someone, tell them that to their face, too!)
- PMs and emails are an entirely separate thing and are not under discussion at this time. We cannot presume to have any control over what people talk about with their friends in private. HOWEVER, if bad things are happening to you in private, do please come forward to someone. We really don't want anyone suffering in silence.
That's all I've got for now. Let me just stress that this is a proposal, not a dictation. If you find it lacking or unhelpful in any way, please say so, and we as a community will find a better way together.
~Neshomeh
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*Bows Head* (nm) by
on 2018-01-24 01:56:00 UTC
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Oh my god yes (on the fic part) by
on 2018-01-24 01:53:00 UTC
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Uh.. yeah. That's part of why I loved July's mission so much. It was just... FUN. I'd forgotten what that was like. And it's something that has definitely influenced my own writing, although it certainly won't be properly joyous.
It's important to remember how to be silly, even if you're not actually writing something goofy.
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...Wow, did I miss a lot... by
on 2018-01-24 01:32:00 UTC
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...And I'm glad I did, I'd rather stay out of this argument (though on the off chance I accidentally insult someone while in the chat, I want to apologize beforehand, I have a bad habit of saying/doing things without thinking.)
And while we're on it, I've noticed that the atmosphere here has gotten rather toxic and I'm sick of it. That and the prevalence towards angst in the current PPC missions. Character development is fine, but what's wrong with a little levity?
Sorry, I just wanted to get this all out...
-OpinionedAngel, fed up.
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I can sort of see where you got your interpretations by
on 2018-01-24 00:09:00 UTC
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From where I'm standing, they look like they assume a lot of negative intent on Quincy and Larf's parts. That's ... understandable, I suppose, assuming someone had poked you with (I'm probably exaggerating this, as I have no idea what happened before you asked me for context and logs) "People are being terrible and mean on the Discord, here's a screenshot".
That is, your interpretations were one of the valid ways to read the logs (they weren't completely out of nowhere) but that they were really improbable etc. .
I think the lesson here is that this sort of thing is one reason we have an "don't assume negative intent" clause in the Constitution.
- Tomash
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I'm sorry. by
on 2018-01-23 23:42:00 UTC
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I'm sorry for misinterpreting the chat log so badly that not only does no-one else see it, but no-one else can even imagine hoe I reached the conclusions I did. That is a huge failure on my part.
Sorry.
hS
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RIP Ursula K. LeGuin by
on 2018-01-23 22:55:00 UTC
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An obituary is here.
I haven't read much by her (aside from A Wizard of Earthsea, which I remember liking), but by all accounts she was a very good writer.
Just thought I'd mention this here.
- Tomash
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LOTS and LOTS of baaad emotions by
on 2018-01-23 22:52:00 UTC
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I'm honestly crushed that this... whatever it is... happened. I feel like what I said, if it was out of line, is nowhere NEAR Board-level. That being said, I still don't really feel like I went out of line, especially considering what I posted after the controversial stuff. What it looks like to me (though I am admittedly rather biased, and I feel the need to specify that I AM NOT REGARDING THIS AS THE UNIVERSAL TRUTH, because apparently expressing my opinion/discomfort sics hS on me??? Maybe that was a bit unnecessary but that's how this whole ordeal has made me feel, dang it) is that y'all saw me saying something 'against' Iximaz and decided immediately that I had to be punished for it. Again, I’m not saying that’s what happened, I’m saying it’s how it make me feel. Because I, too, have feelings. I'm legitimately scared, now, that this will happen again, that I'll be thrown onto the Board without even having gotten a warning. It is not as if I always do this! And the way hS just went after me... I don't know if I feel welcome on the Board anymore, and I certainly don't feel welcome on the chat knowing that somebody was there and decided to indict me without even talking to me about it first. To that end, it pains me, but I think I'm just going to have to take another hiatus! And whoever reported me to hS... next time, JUST TELL ME. I SWEAR I AM NOT EVIL. I DO NOT WANT TO HURT ANYBODY. SURE, I PROBABLY OVERREACTED??? BUT I WOULD HAVE LISTENED IF YOU WOULD HAVE JUST COME TO ME. All you've accomplished by doing this instead is upset *everybody* over an issue that could've been resolved through a quick PM. Unless your intent is to harm me?? In which case, congratulations, you've succeeded!
I just wanted to come back and be with my friends. And then... THIS. Maybe it's my fault? I don't know, I don't really *feel* like I've done anything egregious. Maybe I'm paranoid. I told myself I've been overreacting, but as the day goes on, I just get more and more sad. But... I can't believe this happened. I don’t even feel like I did anything??? I don't know! I'm scared this will happen again and I don't know if I could handle it. I hate this, all of it. It’s making me wish I never joined the PPC. I mean, can I not also be upset/hurt/angry over what happened, or is that a premium right reserved for those whose names are Iximaz??? Please, somebody. I just want to know why something of this magnitude happened over something so small.
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What I said was unnecessary. by
on 2018-01-23 22:19:00 UTC
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I am very tired of drama. I have offhandedly whinged about it quite a few times, before, and I find it disappointing that it's just so consistent.
So, I was miffed. I was miffed that another drama - which I thought was over with - was brought back into conversation. I was miffed that I attempted (weakly, I admit, and an attempt that I immediately went back on, myself) to drive conversation away from it and it was immediately brought back.
But miffedness is really all I have going for me. I was annoyed and my blathering gob said something completely unnecessary, which added nothing to the conversation, help cool it down, or anything. I didn't think big of it at the time, but, well, somebody was hurt and them being hurt can be tied directly to something I said.
So, I apologise for that. I didn't need to say what I said - could've just, I don't know, gotten off the computer, squeezed a stressball or whatnot - but I said it. Don't have anything nice to say, don't say it, and so on. I never want to be the person who's hurting someone or getting involved in dramas (the irony being that I have now enrolled myself in one) but there it is. Good effort on my part.
Sorry. I expressed myself immaturely and I won't do it again.
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Oh. That's worth considering. (nm) by
on 2018-01-23 20:43:00 UTC
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I think what happened there by
on 2018-01-23 19:59:00 UTC
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is that you brought this up using words like "repeatedly" (which could've been read as "multiple incidents" and not "a few different messages") along with a general notion that the Discord needs to watch out for a culture of rug-sweeping (which is not a completely unfounded concern, IMO) and constitutional amendments.
Putting a minor behavioral concern in the same post as a bunch of Important Issues gives off the feeling of it being an Important Issue, I suspect.
- Tomash
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I was referring to Ix's comment by
on 2018-01-23 19:56:00 UTC
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about the chat as a whole, and was saying they (Ix) might need to apologize.
- Tomash
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Ehhhh... by
on 2018-01-23 19:53:00 UTC
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>An apology for insinuating the entire chat hates them/doesn't care about them/... is in order, from the looks of it.
Thing is, from the logs, it looks like Quince went to great lengths to not insinuate that. An apology still might be in order, but I think that's worth noting.
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Re: all of that by
on 2018-01-23 19:39:00 UTC
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The Harassment Amendment
I've left a few comments in the GDoc (which is open for anyone to comment in, hint hint), but my vote is to ratify it, overall. I don't think anyone could argue we don't need it, in light of these situations sometimes occurring.
The Discussion Amendment
I also ratify this. More discussion leads to more thinking, which leads to smarter, more well-rounded PPCers.And I need all your brains as developed as possible before I can connect the entire community into a story-developing think tank.
The Chitchat Amendment
I can remember massive text chains between only two people happening, uh, once, or maybe even twice? And since the Board displays each page based on number of root posts only, and not response posts, it should hardly matter. I don't feel this amendment is necessary or productive, so I disapprove.
Dear Discord
I don't want to talk too long about this, partly because I wasn't present (or was busy on another screen at the time, if I was in fact in the Discord at the time these events took place), and partly because I feel it's being resolved as this thread goes on. I will briefly say that I don't see the comments posted as being serious or incendiary enough for me to view this situation as anything more than hurt feelings being expressed. I do, however, agree with Neshomeh that the individual who reported the conversation to Iximaz, seemingly with the intent to create conflict, does owe an apology to at least Iximaz and the other two parties, if not all of us.
—doctorlit, hopefully staying as diplomatic as he feels
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'Major Drama' (an apology) by
on 2018-01-23 19:26:00 UTC
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It was never my intent to suggest that Major Drama was happening. I wanted to highlight some relatively low-level behaviour that I found dismaying and not appropriate, to try and encourage the people involved to stop before it could become Major Drama.
I apologise for implying that Major Drama had occured. It was never my intent. I would appreciate someone laying out precisely how I implied that, so I can learn from it.
hS
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That was meant to go under the below thread (nm) by
on 2018-01-23 18:24:00 UTC
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Re: the present issue by
on 2018-01-23 18:23:00 UTC
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My thoughts:
- I'm not going to comment on Quincy's behavior at the moment. I feel a bit too emotionally tied in at the moment, if that makes sense.
- I think Larfen's comment has been blown out of proportion. That doesn't seem like an attack on anyone because of their mental health issues, and more pointing things out with an undertone of "not this again".
Now, is complaining about someone behind their back but still in public good? No (especially given various previous incidents), but I don't think that's enough to spark a Major Drama or the like.
- I should clarify to Nesh that Ix would briefly pop into the Discord to announce mission/interlude postsings then immediately leave.
- Ix's comment that "[Quincy] just said what y'all were thinking." is inaccurate, since I certainly don't feel that way, for one (and, from the logs, neither does Delta?). An apology for insinuating the entire chat hates them/doesn't care about them/... is in order, from the looks of it.
- From what I've seen over the last few days, I'm a bit worried about Ix's mental state currently. I'm not sure if anything unusual's up, but, if it is, I hope in clears up soon.
- Tomash
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You're right; I'm sorry. by
on 2018-01-23 18:01:00 UTC
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I could have found a way to contact you to discuss your part in this; that would have been better, but it didn't occur to me. I'm sorry.
hS
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Can someone elaborate? by
on 2018-01-23 17:42:00 UTC
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I'm getting the message that this isn't the first time that this sort of drama pattern has happened. If someone can explain, it would be greatly appreciated. I want to make as informed a judgement as I can regarding this.