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Haven't been involved before now, but also going w/permaban (nm) by
on 2017-09-07 02:57:00 UTC
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Adding my support for a permanent ban. by
on 2017-09-07 02:14:00 UTC
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I haven't said much on this subject, due to a combination of real life and not wanting to rehash things that have already been covered, but I've been quiet long enough. Zdimensia/Bram/TooPurple has repeatedly demonstrated—through Board posts, instant messaging, and emails—that they are unwilling to act as a member of this community. We have been lenient before, and our leniency was rewarded with harassment and disrespect. There has to be a point where we draw the line, and I would argue that this is it.
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I wasn't going to get involved, but. I vote for perma-ban. (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 23:22:00 UTC
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Voting for permaban. (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 22:23:00 UTC
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Nicely Done! by
on 2017-09-06 20:54:00 UTC
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Short and sweet with no complications. Though I can't believe the author of the fic went and ripped off Moana.
It doesn't help that Moana is easily among my top 5 Disney animated movies...
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((Would love to see this. ^_^)) (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 19:34:00 UTC
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Belated welcome! by
on 2017-09-06 19:04:00 UTC
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Have a brownie with NM&NMs in it! Those are a specific variety of M&Ms unique to headquarters made with Bleepolate; chocolate, brain bleach, and aspirin. I know it sounds gross, but it works and it makes badfic hurt less. Here's a wiki link if you don't believe me: http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Bleeprin
Enjoy your stay in the madhouse!
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If it was written by someone else, you say? by
on 2017-09-06 18:55:00 UTC
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If that's a writing prompt/challenge, I gleefully accept.
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Ronion, you're a mad genius! by
on 2017-09-06 18:54:00 UTC
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Normally I don't like stuff written entirely in a phonetic accent, bestiality, or bestiality written in a phonetic accent, but I was laughing the whole way through this chapter! Especially at Doc's description of the *deep breath* Boingokaspoingokadiddlymachen (ugh my brain @_@); Noodle Implements are always good for a laugh.
Tell me your comedy-writing secrets! No one cared about my entry last year even though I tried to make it decidedly not-serious!
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I vote permaban. (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 18:41:00 UTC
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((Brain, why you no have badfic ideas?)) (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 18:39:00 UTC
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Changing for a permaban vote too. (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 18:34:00 UTC
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As mentioned in Discord, "Today I've learned..." by
on 2017-09-06 18:23:00 UTC
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And as always, my comments are as unnecessary as a towel to a fish... I'll shut up now.
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Bram could be completely correct. by
on 2017-09-06 18:12:00 UTC
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There are many different systems that can be used to calculate IQ, and they all use different numbers. What's always more important to remember is the percentile that you are in. Without more knowledge and context about the system Bram used to calculate their IQ we can't make any comments about it from the number alone.
For example, I've done a couple of IQ tests in my time. One I came out with around 190 (I think) and another I came out with around 130 (I remember the number because it was more recent). What's more important is that both times I was placed somewhere around the 97th percentile (just outside of the band of IQ required to join Mensa IIRC) but that is irrespective of the numbers I got.
After all as a mathematician I know that numbers, without context, are just numbers. Nothing more, nothing less.
Novastorme
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I'm sorry, but... *snrt* by
on 2017-09-06 18:02:00 UTC
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That IQ of 137 just really got me... Not to bash anyone's intelligence (although at this point of absurd it's hard not to)...
About 50% of Earth's population has an average IQ of 90 to 110.
2.5% is quite gifted. Their IQ is over 130.
0.5% classify as natural geniuses with IQ over 140.
So yeah... I may be wrong in some statistics, but you get the idea.
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I think it's clear it's permaban from me (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 18:02:00 UTC
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We might want to add an entry to the Board FAQ by
on 2017-09-06 16:49:00 UTC
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covering this situation, just in case. Something along the lines of
Q: I'm blocked from the Board, but I've never even been here before. What gives?
A: Sometimes, to remove spambots or enforce a ban, we have to block certain IP addresses or ranges. This does carry with it the possibility that someone innocent will be blocked as a side effect. If you believe this has happened to you, please [insert method of flagging down someone the community that's likely to get noticed or get brought to the attention of the relevant people here]
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I vote permaban by
on 2017-09-06 16:40:00 UTC
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From what I can tell, TooPurple/Bramadin/zdimensia (let's go with Bram for simplicity) is about as likely to not be a disruptive influence if readmitted as Agent Ix is to send an HQ-wide email coming out as a werewolf (for the reasons set forth by hS and others).
So, if we consider my proposal for the requirements for opening revote ("[Some Boarder has] a good reason to believe [we'll let her back in]"), I believe that almost surely won't happen in the future, at least for me. Therefore, I might as well simply my position on the issue to "permaban", which also takes care of a bunch of potentially confusing clerical issues about what, exactly, the community has decided to do about Bram.
- Tomash
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There currently aren't any people in that situation. by
on 2017-09-06 15:39:00 UTC
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Given that Bramandin has shown herself entirely willing to find a nearby internet connection, make up a fake name, and interact for a year before admitting it - yes, I think this is an acceptable measure. It sucks for the hypothetical PPC fan living in the same town as her, but they haven't existed for the past year and a half, so I say risk it.
The Board header links to both the Wiki and T-Board, where people who are accidentally blocked can go and leave messages.
hS
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OT: Are we going to block entire /16s by
on 2017-09-06 15:36:00 UTC
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without any mechanism for people mistakenly caught in the blocks to get an exception?
- Tomash
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The following IP addresses have been blocked: by
on 2017-09-06 15:31:00 UTC
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72.215.148.50 (304 messages, all from Bramandin or a known alias)
72.218.246.58 (100 messages, all from Bramandin; this is the IP identified as her home IP)
72.218.175.18 (1 message, the 'TooPurple' one; this maps to the same location as the immediate previous IP)
72.215 (304 messages - precisely matching the first IP)
72.218 (101 messages - precisely matching the second and third IPs)
The first two have been blocked since her temporary ban was enacted. The final three have been put in place over the past 24 hours as a technical measure, to prevent this currently-banned user from continuing to violate said ban.
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I vote for a permaban. by
on 2017-09-06 15:22:00 UTC
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I would have suggested it earlier, given that this is either the third or fourth time this has been brought up, but I wanted to see the consensus first. Now that Bram has decided to throw this into the mix, I feel that a permaban is the only option.
And Bram? You earning permission again required you following your ban and earning a place in the community again. Just demanding a place is not good enough. If you want, you could consider being let back into the community properly as the first part of permission, in
Which case you applied again and failed.
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On banning and blocking. by
on 2017-09-06 15:13:00 UTC
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I know there's been confusion about these terms in the past, so allow me to explain them again.
A ban is a community and/or moderator ruling (as applicable) that an individual is no longer welcome in our spaces. IP blocking (or just "blocking") is a tool that may or may not be used to enforce a ban. A person may be banned with or without technical enforcement by IP blocking. The absence or presence of an IP block does not bear one way or the other on a person's banned status.
We prefer not to use IP blocks, because that may affect people other than the banned person, but we do it in cases where the banned person cannot be relied upon to stay gone of their own free will.
This appears to be the case with Bramandin. This person is banned. The fact that an IP to which Bramandin has access may not have been blocked does not change the fact that she is banned. Attempting to post from any IP while banned is a show of bad faith. Incidentally announcing your intent to continue flouting your ban is a show of even worse faith. Possibly zero faith.
I will be in favor of continuing to enforce the community's decision by whatever means necessary.
~Neshomeh
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(( One relay. )) by
on 2017-09-06 14:57:00 UTC
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(( Bramandin contacted me unsolicited with three further responses. I am passing them on because I think the last one in particular is relevant to our decision and grants an opportunity to explain banning and blocking [again] for posterity, but I won't be accepting any more. ~Neshomeh ))
To: O the marvelous things:
One, I don't appreciate your sarcasm, and my beard has had gray hairs in it for years. I would have photograpic proof that it has gray hairs now, but I shaved it off.
It would all be pointless because I believe that you're just going to stick to your own opinion and ignore everything I say. I do consider that other people are correct, and then come to the conclusion that they are wrong. I could say you have no capacity to consider I'm correct because you conclude that I'm wrong. I do compromise at lot, which I guess you can't see because I don't preface it with any sort of statement. I thought I had already covered my mistakes and accepted them, while the community continues to deny that there were any mistakes on their end. I am not unapologetic because I have made apologies. There might be something I've forgotten to apologize for, but if that's the case it's an honest oversight.
I believe that you haven't treated me fairly. In 2014, I didn't see evidence that you had given me the benefit of doubt. I believe you asked me to use a set of characters that I wasn't ready to use and ignored me when I said I didn't want to use them. I believe that right now, you're deciding not to give me another chance after in May people were willing to consider it. I don't understand where I've been given four chances. The reputation is mostly from me being validly angry and people deciding that they hadn't even made a mistake.
I haven't ignored you. I've considered what you said and decided you were wrong.
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Reply to Nesh Just a couple things:
I have been tested, and they decided not to diagnose me because "depression can increase the aspie traits" (IIRC, my IQ tests at 137, so I guess average people like you have scores like 190.) I've also tried bringing it up with a doctor, but they choose to focus on the depression. I could try again if my insurance covers it.
Most of my experience with people has been with those do who enjoy causing pain, so it's a reasonable assumption that I could be dealing with people who follow the pattern. A principal once got me to cry and then mocked me for it. The group's deciding to continue something that has been shown to cause me stress is not taking great pains to avoid exacerbating it.
I apologize for thinking that you were enjoying my pain. I'll keep that in mind for next time.
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Re: Ban evasion:
One, I didn't expect the message to go through. Two, that it did go through meant that I wasn't blocked. If you're accusing me of hacking into the Nameless Admin's account, I didn't.
The banning me for a year because you decided I didn't work on myself when I did is wrong.
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Permaban is more than fine by me. (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 14:40:00 UTC
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