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TooPurple, formally known as zdimensia and Bramandin, will be allowed back into the community in December without a vote called.

This is relly different, JayBird. Tallulah is kewl!

But don't b mad, but I'm a little confused? Who r the good guys and who r the bad gutys? I meen obvs Morona is a bad guy, but how come all the fangrisl r all rogether then, and the agantes r like ther tachers or something? An the poral is bad? But the SO is nice???

I'm sure it's me, I'm just confvused, cuz ur a reely gud writer and stuff! soz! Ur the best!!!

XOXOX

It probably won't do any good, but I feel a couple points need to be made for posterity.

First, in response to "The therapy part is impossible because I don't have a diagnosis":

That is pure nonsense. Part of getting therapy would involve the doctor seeking for and arriving at a diagnosis, then proceeding from it. You don't go to your GP, tell them you have strep throat, and expect them to treat based on your conclusion; no, you go in, tell them your symptoms, and let them perform tests as needed so they can determine the correct diagnosis and treatment. It's the same with a mental health practitioner.

The lack of insurance is a serious problem, and that sucks, but it doesn't change the process of how diagnosis and treatment works. If you're persistent, you may even find a good, affordable doc that works with the uninsured until you get a new plan.

Second, in response to no one (except Zing) denying that we find joy in adding to Bram's stress:

There's a perfectly good explanation for this. Most of us, through past experience interacting with people in general and the people of this community in specific, know that most people do not find joy in causing others pain. If we notice that anyone around us actually does, we don't keep them around. Nobody in this thread, or past discussions with Bram, has shown even the slightest hint of enjoying Bram's confusion or stress or mental health difficulties. I believe that any reasonable observer from the outside would find it abundantly clear that the truth is quite the opposite: we're all stressed out and confused and really taking great pains not to exacerbate anyone's mental health situation. It really does go without saying.

Bram has previously expressed a need for us to say that "things" aren't true. Well, Zing did, and now I am. However, saying demonstrably outrageous things just to see if we'll deny them comes across as extremely manipulative, and I find it not at all remarkable that hardly anyone has taken the bait. This community does not need anyone to apologize for its behavior, because its behavior in this has been exemplary.

That's my bit; I'm done. Just needed to get that off my chest.

~Neshomeh

becuz I life in new ENGLAD witch is waht the langurage is NAMMED AFTER so OFCORSE iM speeking Engish. Iv cecked your'e IEP adn it sas yuo live in STUPEDVILLLE witch is NO in New Egnland so YOUR'E RWONG ADN I'M WRIGHT.

also your'e pots is flamming witc is aginst the ruls so im' reproting you to fanfic_worl lol SPOYLIRS your'e gonaa get band

~JayBird~

iv'e talkt to my fiend whois a LARYER adn seh say taht plajgerim is ILEGGAL so ive reproted you to FANFIC_WOLD adn also teh GOVNERMET. hte pOlise will bee tehre shotly to ARSETT you!!1 neway your'e fic sukss

~JayBird~

Tallulah Greensleeves (A/N: kk so shes' Laegolasses sister fron mIlkwood whois not JUTS an elf but aslo a MERIMADE adn she grw up wit FORDO and SAM who livd togtheer in tihs stor becasue veryone knoes tehyr'e GAU and tahts' FIN but neway she wet to teh same shool as SPIDER who is aslo calld ARGAGON spollers lol neway now shse in tihs sotry) was walking along the banks of the Shire River when SUDDENLY a swirling blue portal (A/N kk so i KNOOOO i ususually make tehm pink witch is BETTAR but tihs is a bad protal sort of opps spoylers) opened under her feet and dropped her straight into PPC HQ. So she landed in a corridor and said to the Daisy (A/N not teh markee but the ohter dassy whos'e allays standining cordirors and suck) "Why am I here?" and the Daisy said Because you've been chosen to come to Tofu Hop, and Tallulah said, "What's Tofu Hop? It sounds like a game," but the Daisy said It's not a game, COME WITH ME and you'll see.

So the Daisy led Tallulah (A/N THERE ELLZ ANDA HAITCH ive bene watching doctro who can yuo telll?????) to the Not As Big As The Big Auditorium But Bigger Than The Small Auditorium Auditorium, and who should she see there, but... the SUNFLOWER OFFICIAL! And she ran up to him and gave him a hug because he's so awesome. Thank you, Tallulah Greensleeves, said the Sunflower Official (A/N: omng he is SO NISE), but please take your seat so we can get started.

Tallulah looked back at the seats to find they were all full of FANGIRLS, and there was one with her name on it (A/N: writting in ELFISH LETTETERS), so she went to it and she sat down. "Hello," she said to the girl on her left, "I'm Tallulah Greensleeves and I'm Legolas' sister from Mirkwood, and I'm not just an elf but also a mermaid, and I grew up with Frodo and Sam, who live together because they're gay and that's fine, and also I went to the same school as Strider who is also called Aragorn."

"Hi," said the girl next to her, who had black and gold hair and pointy ears, "I'm Jessaminthe Layla Windflower Evenstar (A/N: Jessaminthe is righten by MrsSupernumerary and shes' RILLY COOLL), I'm Arwen's sister and Elrond's daughter and the princess of Rivendell."

"Cool," said Tallulah, and she turned to the girl on her right. "Hello," she said, "I'm Tallulah Greensleeves and I'm Legolas' sister from Mirkwood, and I'm not just an elf but also a mermaid, and I grew up with Frodo and Sam, who live together because they're gay and that's fine, and also I went to the same school as Strider who is also called Aragorn."

"Ugh," said the girl on her right, who had black and pink hair, spitting on her, "I'm Morana Kristine Stephanie Hecate King (A/N MorONa is righten by NightmareTwisteyTheDemonFoxAnimatronic who is EFIL and a PLAJJERIS so DONT@T REED HER SOTRYS), I'm a 16-year-old girl with black-and-pink hair reaching to just below my boobs and shiny pink eyes, and I hate you."

"Well, that isn't very nice," said Tallulah. "Why do you hate me?"

"Because I hate everything which is nice," said Morana, spitting on her again.

Tallulah was about to say something which would make Morana feel very bad for what she was saying, but then the Sunflower Official spoke again. Hello, fans of the PPC, he said. As you know, I am the Sunflower Official-

"Yaaaaaay!" shouted Tallulah.

Thank you, Tallulah, said the Sunflower Official. You're really nice; can I call you Tally?

"Of course!" shouted Tallulah. "Can I call you Sunny?"

I would be flattered, said the Sunflower Official. Now, fans of the PPC, he said, I'm sure you know that there has been a lot of bad fanfiction about the PPC.

Morana cackled. "And lots of it is MINE!"

Precisely. When there was a lot of bad fanfic of Lord of the Rings, Miss Cam started OFUM to deal with it. Well, now we are doing the same thing. The Sunflower Official waves his leaves, and lots of other Flowers and Agents came up onto the stage. There was the Bonsai Mallorn and the Marquis de Sod and the Lichen, and also there was Dafydd Illian and Supernumberary and Suicide and even Jay and Acacia.

"Wow!" said Jessaminthe next to Tallulah. "They're all so dreamy! (A/N: sso Jessaminthe is lick in luv with EDERYBODI in her sotry so I dessided to make her lov all teh argents here hop tehts' okey!!)"

Fangirls, said the Sunflower Official, and also Captain Deadly (A/N: shootout two xXth0th999Xx!!1)... welcome to The Official Fanfiction University of the Headquarters Of the PPC.

"Tofu Hop!" gasped Tallulah. "So that's what the Daisy meant!"

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A/N kk so I nedded lost of caractars for tihs so i borruwd some HOPP TAHTS OKAE neway more chappie sun!! ~J~B~

Yeah, for some reason I got LotD and LatD confused. Ow. Okay, so that part doesn't stand.

However, I clearly can't be your clone, and you obviously aren't my clone. So we need to find the entity we were both cloned from. And... probably kill it or something. I dunno.

...Coming to a TV near you, 9/8 Central!

As you say, it exists to be the baseline for the rest of the world. If Garion began his journey in Vo Mandor, taking him to Val Alorn would be too big a shift - you literally couldn't fit them into the same worldview. But he doesn't - he starts among the Sendars, who have nothing interesting going for them (^_~), and so makes for a perfect baseline.

From an internal perspective, it's also the House That Pol Built. I think I'm right in saying that Sendaria is literally the nation she put together to serve as the perfect place to raise Belgarion when he finally showed up. It kind of shares that with Riva, which was pretty much built out of nothing to be the home of the Orb.

One thing that bugs me about the Belgariad is the language, or rather the lack thereof. It feels like all these city prefixes - Vo for Arendia, Val for Cherek, Tol in Tolnedra, Mar for Maragor, Sthiss in Nyissa... we can probably ignore Rak, and definitely Thull, but Yar might count - might point back to a common proto-word, perhaps something like Yaal... but I'm pretty sure they're just sounds that he pulled from the country names/out of nowhere. And don't ever make my mistake and try to figure out what 'Cthol' means... 'Cthol Murgos' and 'Cthol Mishrak' might point at 'land, region' (of the Murgos/of Eternal Night), but then what about Rak Cthol? 'Landcity' is a stupid name, and it would make much more sense as the 'Darkness' component of Cthol Mishrak... but then the country is called 'Murky Murgos', which is dumb. And so on and so on.

Similarly, names. Belgarath's name Garath suggests that naming yourself after your hometown was normal in the early days - and, incidentally, that he can't have used the name in Gara - but no-one else ever uses that convention, instead naming their countries after themselves. He names one daughter after himself and/or in memory of his hometown, but then the other gets a male magical prefix and a name (-daran) that doesn't connect very clearly to either -garath or -edra.

It's obvious that there were rules he followed - double-Ls in Arendia, Ses in Nyissa, voiceless consonants (rh, kh) in Drasnia - but equally obvious that they were essentially random. And that drives me batty. It's not actually a problem (it's not like language in our world follows particularly obvious patterns, even though they're there!) but it always bugs me.

This comes to a head over in the other series, the Elenium, where everyone has names in Fantasyspeak - except the protagonist, Sparhawk, who inexplicably has one made out of two English words...

hS

I've recorded a pilot episode of it, in which I hosted three Boarders. Moreover, I intend to do it again when I have the time and Tomash can record. =]

Also, you've made a slight misconstruation here; I used to play Lost and the Damned, not the Legion of the Damned. I've never been particularly interested in beakees, even those of the Cursed Founding, because I liked to win through tactics and PBI and not just because my army was full of power-armoured supermen. =]

But yeah. My secret's out. I'm a clone. Curse you for betraying my greatest and most secret shame. =]

How verifiably effulgent! Wedding plans! Serendipity cameos! Drunk!Zeb! The conglomeration of every multifarious character is simply effulgent in its facets multitudinous! Continue to detail the effervescent writings!!!1

Though it is a bit on the shorter side as far as your usual mission length. Nonetheless, the agent banter was good, as usual.

Okay, so you reference Zero Punctuation, and then you reference Citation Needed, both shows nobody else on the board or the Discord seems to know anything about except me. You're frequently rather blunt, and often kind of a jerk. You collected Tomb Kings and Legion of the Damned at least, both armies I've expressed interest in, and both of which bear some resemblance various respects to my army of choice, Thousand Sons.

...Are you my strange female (are you female? you looked female in the gathering picture, so I'm going by that...) clone/AU double/whatever who is British or something?

I mean, I don't think you are (no clone of mine would be this good at writing), but that is genuinely weird.

All the marvellous things I wish I could say, right now!
O' how this thread could travel off into the night;
O' how I could discuss and argue for hours and hours and only stop in order to trim my new, greying beard!

But it would all be pointless because, Bram, you have no capacity to consider that somebody else is correct! Why, that is why nobody thinks you're ready to rejoin the community! Notice the phrasing I used? 'Community.' Because the PPC is not a dumping ground in which to toss your written stories and leave them there in the dust, but a writing community, in which you must interact with, respect, and have compromise with! You seem to think you can compromise, boldly claiming 'The entire blame is not on the community,' but you then criticise it for not acknowledging its mistakes and for requiring amends and forgiveness!
Amends for what, Bramandin? Forgiveness for what? Bram, as long as we expect basic decency out of you, you will forever need our amends and forgiveness!
And, why, as you read this you will undoubtedly completely ignore the possibility that perhaps I may have a point, and instead blame it on the community (hey, 'community' again!) and explain that you vaguely improved somehow in some way or another!

In fact, it seems that, where I thought my basis for voting against your return was because I think you have absolutely no respect for anyone here, and because there are friends of mine who have been hurt by you while you remain unapologetic, and because your reputation has become as such that a simple relaying accident led to me reasonably concluding that you were passive aggressively insulting me, and because you have been given four separate chances to improve without changing a single thing beyond your name (in spite of your constant arguments against this), I was actually bigoted!
Why, you had been given another undeserved chance to show that you had improved, and you instead ignored every single thing I said and concluded that my reasoning was worthless because you decided I was being discriminatory!
Who would have guessed that Larfen J. Stocke, esq. was a bigot?
You think you know a guy!

But that's the end of that. This discussion is pointless and over and I regret even starting it, and I am more than happy for this entire situation to end with me a 'bigot' and Bramandin banned.

This fic is stupid. I mean, look at how OOc Zeb is. We all know that Zeb is incredibly violent and hates interpersonal relationalships. I don't even know if she has genitals.

And Ix is usually so unyielding. She's very forceful

It's like everyone in the fic got personality transplants. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? JEEZ. YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY AN IDIOT NOT WORTH MY TIME.

(Indeed. The fictional characters are irritating. I like to send them off with a Doombolt.)

Augh. Sorry, my fictional character has delusions of being real.

Sendaria also exists to have people that aren't as out of control as the rest of the world - their specialty is being practical, to use your formatting. They're the Only Sane Men of the Belgariadverse.

And it makes sense that my points wouldn't apply in the Timuli, given that I've never read it. I can't take that into consideration. (It is fun to picture Garion as an Arend, though. Which duchy, I wonder...)

I've also read the Belgariad more, though not by much. And I also happen to like the Marags and Wacites. Pity about the whole destruction thing; so much potential...

"I don't know whether the rash is from the cello or if it's simply because he's such a fantastic deviant. You should see what he does with his contrabassoon. Quite, quite dreadful. And very bad for the wood."

((Not Jay, just your Friendly Neighbourhood Huinesoron. Oddly enough, the first Jaycacia story was what led to actual!Jay contacting me out of nowhere...))

((And JayBird deserves everything she gets. ^_^ ~hS))

You're abusing the instrument! I am really offended! }:@

Lol, just kidding, I'm not offended. It's all fine. It's all fine. *breathing slows back down to a normal pace* This fic... is really funny...

And man am I glad that my *ahem* female torso mass is of quite a small size.

-Twistey

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(Note from the Shmexier Version of the Author:

You play a what?

-NTtDFA)

Shut up.

I AM NOT PLAGIARIZING JAYCACIA. (Good God, that's a stupid name! At least Morana is an actual name!) I didn't even know who Jaycacia was when I started writing this, and I still don't really think I'm ripping off of her just because a prophecy is involved.

Here are a few reasons why Morana is not a ripoff of Jaycacia:
1. Morana is not a ship child of two existing agents. Morana came from Sin City itself (Las Vegas), which if you'd read the goddang story, you would have known!

2. Morana has a completely different appearance and demeanor than Jaycacia. Jaycacia's color scheme is orange and yellow. Morana's color scheme is pink and black. Jaycacia's personality is sweet and cute like a 10-year-old is cute (as it says on the Wiki.) Morana is a different kind of cute, like a boy in high school would say that there's a "cute girl" in his class. That kind of cute. She also actually has a butt-kicking mindset, instead of just accidentally murdering things like Jaycacia does.

3. My inspiration for Morana was the greatest fanfiction of all time, My Immortal, and its protagonist, Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way. Again, I knew nothing about Jaycacia when I wrote the first chapter. Perhaps I should take advantage of this favorite in my reply to you by saying: You're a forking prep!

4. Prophecies are literally everywhere in stories. Anakin Skywalker was a chosen one. The three grandkits of Firestar were chosen ones and Firestar himself was a chosen one. Discovering that you are suddenly in a world with no idea what anything is is everywhere in fiction. Think about the first Portal game, think about Minecraft, think about Avatar (not ATLA, the one with the blue-skinned people.) And as such, you have ZERO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER, aside from Avlates_usted's suggestion about changing my fic (which I won't do, NOR take it down, NOR TEN OTHER SYNONYMS FOR TAKE IT DOWN, especially now that you're up in my a** about it), which now that my argument had been explained doesn't count as evidence anymore, that I was stealing your precious, preppy, ubermensching, Enya-listening, wolf-loving Mary Sue. Now that I know things about her, I wouldn't even want to steal your idea, she's such a piece of poop. BIRD POOP.

Hah. You can't even make a case, little bird. Fly back to your mommy's nest before you squawk another thing you regret or splat another white splatter with a stupid name on this earth.

-Nightmare Twistey the Demon Fox Animatronic

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(Note from the Non-Suethor:

Wait, is this actually Jay, or... Never been contacted by Jay before on the Board. Nice to "meet" you, haha. Did you like my Suethor's roast of your Suethor? I thought the bird jokes were a nice touch :P

-Twistey)

Sorry, the link got cut off: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html

I was not here when Bram arrived. However, based upon what I've seen of Bram's behavior in this thread and prior ones, I can in good conscience vote to continue the ban. Bram is, in my judgement, not ready to participate in this community, and as others have stated, unwilling to take responsibility for his or her actions.

Bram, I will put this as kindly as I can: although we try our best, the onus is not on us to understand your meaning implicitly. The onus is upon you to ensure that your meaning can be easily understood. If you are not capable of making yourself easily understood through the medium of text, then you need to practice until you are capable of it. Because you cannot participate in most online communities until you do.

It's not easy participating on online community. It's hard to admit fault, it's hard to get used to the norms of any community, and it's often painful to screw up. I've been there, I've done that, I know. But you have to learn to handle it better.

It's a bit outdated, and not always accurate (be aware of context in the community you're in!), but it's still worth reading some incarnation of one of the USENET guides to netiquette, such as the one viewable

I was not here when Bram arrived. However, based upon what I've seen of Bram's behavior in this thread and prior ones, I can in good conscience vote to continue the ban. Bram is, in my judgement, not ready to participate in this community, and as others have stated, unwilling to take responsibility for his or her actions.

Bram, I will put this as kindly as I can: although we try our best, the onus is not on us to understand your meaning implicitly. The onus is upon you to ensure that your meaning can be easily understood. If you are not capable of making yourself easily understood through the medium of text, then you need to practice until you are capable of it. Because you cannot participate in most online communities until you do.

It's not easy participating on online community. It's hard to admit fault, it's hard to get used to the norms of any community, and it's often painful to screw up. I've been there, I've done that, I know. But you have to learn to handle it better.

It's a bit outdated, and not always accurate (be aware of context in the community you're in!), but it's still worth reading some incarnation of one of the USENET guides to netiquette, such as the one viewable