And as always, my comments are as unnecessary as a towel to a fish... I'll shut up now.
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As mentioned in Discord, "Today I've learned..." by
on 2017-09-06 18:23:00 UTC
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Bram could be completely correct. by
on 2017-09-06 18:12:00 UTC
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There are many different systems that can be used to calculate IQ, and they all use different numbers. What's always more important to remember is the percentile that you are in. Without more knowledge and context about the system Bram used to calculate their IQ we can't make any comments about it from the number alone.
For example, I've done a couple of IQ tests in my time. One I came out with around 190 (I think) and another I came out with around 130 (I remember the number because it was more recent). What's more important is that both times I was placed somewhere around the 97th percentile (just outside of the band of IQ required to join Mensa IIRC) but that is irrespective of the numbers I got.
After all as a mathematician I know that numbers, without context, are just numbers. Nothing more, nothing less.
Novastorme
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I think it's clear it's permaban from me (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 18:02:00 UTC
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I'm sorry, but... *snrt* by
on 2017-09-06 18:02:00 UTC
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That IQ of 137 just really got me... Not to bash anyone's intelligence (although at this point of absurd it's hard not to)...
About 50% of Earth's population has an average IQ of 90 to 110.
2.5% is quite gifted. Their IQ is over 130.
0.5% classify as natural geniuses with IQ over 140.
So yeah... I may be wrong in some statistics, but you get the idea.
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We might want to add an entry to the Board FAQ by
on 2017-09-06 16:49:00 UTC
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covering this situation, just in case. Something along the lines of
Q: I'm blocked from the Board, but I've never even been here before. What gives?
A: Sometimes, to remove spambots or enforce a ban, we have to block certain IP addresses or ranges. This does carry with it the possibility that someone innocent will be blocked as a side effect. If you believe this has happened to you, please [insert method of flagging down someone the community that's likely to get noticed or get brought to the attention of the relevant people here]
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I vote permaban by
on 2017-09-06 16:40:00 UTC
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From what I can tell, TooPurple/Bramadin/zdimensia (let's go with Bram for simplicity) is about as likely to not be a disruptive influence if readmitted as Agent Ix is to send an HQ-wide email coming out as a werewolf (for the reasons set forth by hS and others).
So, if we consider my proposal for the requirements for opening revote ("[Some Boarder has] a good reason to believe [we'll let her back in]"), I believe that almost surely won't happen in the future, at least for me. Therefore, I might as well simply my position on the issue to "permaban", which also takes care of a bunch of potentially confusing clerical issues about what, exactly, the community has decided to do about Bram.
- Tomash
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There currently aren't any people in that situation. by
on 2017-09-06 15:39:00 UTC
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Given that Bramandin has shown herself entirely willing to find a nearby internet connection, make up a fake name, and interact for a year before admitting it - yes, I think this is an acceptable measure. It sucks for the hypothetical PPC fan living in the same town as her, but they haven't existed for the past year and a half, so I say risk it.
The Board header links to both the Wiki and T-Board, where people who are accidentally blocked can go and leave messages.
hS
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OT: Are we going to block entire /16s by
on 2017-09-06 15:36:00 UTC
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without any mechanism for people mistakenly caught in the blocks to get an exception?
- Tomash
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The following IP addresses have been blocked: by
on 2017-09-06 15:31:00 UTC
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72.215.148.50 (304 messages, all from Bramandin or a known alias)
72.218.246.58 (100 messages, all from Bramandin; this is the IP identified as her home IP)
72.218.175.18 (1 message, the 'TooPurple' one; this maps to the same location as the immediate previous IP)
72.215 (304 messages - precisely matching the first IP)
72.218 (101 messages - precisely matching the second and third IPs)
The first two have been blocked since her temporary ban was enacted. The final three have been put in place over the past 24 hours as a technical measure, to prevent this currently-banned user from continuing to violate said ban.
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I vote for a permaban. by
on 2017-09-06 15:22:00 UTC
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I would have suggested it earlier, given that this is either the third or fourth time this has been brought up, but I wanted to see the consensus first. Now that Bram has decided to throw this into the mix, I feel that a permaban is the only option.
And Bram? You earning permission again required you following your ban and earning a place in the community again. Just demanding a place is not good enough. If you want, you could consider being let back into the community properly as the first part of permission, in
Which case you applied again and failed.
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On banning and blocking. by
on 2017-09-06 15:13:00 UTC
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I know there's been confusion about these terms in the past, so allow me to explain them again.
A ban is a community and/or moderator ruling (as applicable) that an individual is no longer welcome in our spaces. IP blocking (or just "blocking") is a tool that may or may not be used to enforce a ban. A person may be banned with or without technical enforcement by IP blocking. The absence or presence of an IP block does not bear one way or the other on a person's banned status.
We prefer not to use IP blocks, because that may affect people other than the banned person, but we do it in cases where the banned person cannot be relied upon to stay gone of their own free will.
This appears to be the case with Bramandin. This person is banned. The fact that an IP to which Bramandin has access may not have been blocked does not change the fact that she is banned. Attempting to post from any IP while banned is a show of bad faith. Incidentally announcing your intent to continue flouting your ban is a show of even worse faith. Possibly zero faith.
I will be in favor of continuing to enforce the community's decision by whatever means necessary.
~Neshomeh
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(( One relay. )) by
on 2017-09-06 14:57:00 UTC
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(( Bramandin contacted me unsolicited with three further responses. I am passing them on because I think the last one in particular is relevant to our decision and grants an opportunity to explain banning and blocking [again] for posterity, but I won't be accepting any more. ~Neshomeh ))
To: O the marvelous things:
One, I don't appreciate your sarcasm, and my beard has had gray hairs in it for years. I would have photograpic proof that it has gray hairs now, but I shaved it off.
It would all be pointless because I believe that you're just going to stick to your own opinion and ignore everything I say. I do consider that other people are correct, and then come to the conclusion that they are wrong. I could say you have no capacity to consider I'm correct because you conclude that I'm wrong. I do compromise at lot, which I guess you can't see because I don't preface it with any sort of statement. I thought I had already covered my mistakes and accepted them, while the community continues to deny that there were any mistakes on their end. I am not unapologetic because I have made apologies. There might be something I've forgotten to apologize for, but if that's the case it's an honest oversight.
I believe that you haven't treated me fairly. In 2014, I didn't see evidence that you had given me the benefit of doubt. I believe you asked me to use a set of characters that I wasn't ready to use and ignored me when I said I didn't want to use them. I believe that right now, you're deciding not to give me another chance after in May people were willing to consider it. I don't understand where I've been given four chances. The reputation is mostly from me being validly angry and people deciding that they hadn't even made a mistake.
I haven't ignored you. I've considered what you said and decided you were wrong.
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Reply to Nesh Just a couple things:
I have been tested, and they decided not to diagnose me because "depression can increase the aspie traits" (IIRC, my IQ tests at 137, so I guess average people like you have scores like 190.) I've also tried bringing it up with a doctor, but they choose to focus on the depression. I could try again if my insurance covers it.
Most of my experience with people has been with those do who enjoy causing pain, so it's a reasonable assumption that I could be dealing with people who follow the pattern. A principal once got me to cry and then mocked me for it. The group's deciding to continue something that has been shown to cause me stress is not taking great pains to avoid exacerbating it.
I apologize for thinking that you were enjoying my pain. I'll keep that in mind for next time.
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Re: Ban evasion:
One, I didn't expect the message to go through. Two, that it did go through meant that I wasn't blocked. If you're accusing me of hacking into the Nameless Admin's account, I didn't.
The banning me for a year because you decided I didn't work on myself when I did is wrong.
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Permaban is more than fine by me. (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 14:40:00 UTC
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I also change my vote to permanent ban. by
on 2017-09-06 14:37:00 UTC
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There is no reason we should have to go through this all again every 3-6 months.
-Phobos
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I'm changing my vote to 'permanent ban'. by
on 2017-09-06 14:14:00 UTC
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This post is a direct violation of a ban imposed by the PPC community, and a statement that zdimensia intends to violate that ban again in December. I have also received an email from zdimensia, which I will quote in full at the end of this post, which includes a declaration that she feels entitled to post PPC stories without Permission, again in direct violation of community consensus.
Zdimensia has proved time and again that she is unwilling or unable to accept that she is in the wrong. She has now twice posted in breach of bans laid against her by the PPC community. She has engaged in sockpuppeting, harassment (remember that?), avowed lying and manipulation, and now she has demonstrated that she feels she has the right to ignore any community decisions she disagrees with.
I feel strongly that someone who behaves this way is too much of a disruptive influence for us to keep trying to salvage. This is exactly the sort of situation permabanning is intended for, and I vote that we use it.
hS
The following is the email I received from zdimensia, posted here as evidence. I will not be reposting anything else I might receive from her.
I expect this and your reply to be made public.
I am not insisting I did nothing wrong. I made non-malicious mistakes. If there is something I forgot to apologize for, tell me what it is and then assign a mediator to make sure I'm doing it right.
Don't tell me what I don't like. I'm sure there were plenty of times I enjoyed contributing. I would like the rules if you followed them as well, particularly the golden rule.
As far as your "deal" I was already told that writing for the drawer was fine. As far as renouncing permission, that was because I was told I would be able to get it back. If that person lied, I should get an apology. If you don't give me a chance to go through the process properly, I am under no obligation to not publish. People who are unaware of permission also get to publish.
I want to freely be able to post from home since December 2014. I want the past changed so that no one pushed my buttons in the first place. I want to participate in this year's mailbox thread. I want to comment on other people's stories. I want to clear my reputation and be given a fair shot. I want access to a beta that knows and likes the PPC, and that the stories can be posted to the board and wiki.
Think of an equitable compromise, not you get what you want and I get less than what I had.
As an aside, there was some stuff that Tomash didn't relay before he said he wouldn't.
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I was going to stay neutral and abstain. by
on 2017-09-06 13:34:00 UTC
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But this... This is enough for me to change my mind. I vote to continue the ban on TooPurple/zdimensia/Bramandin.
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omg what have u even been reading by
on 2017-09-06 13:33:00 UTC
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zeb doesnt have genitals evryone remembers episode 772 when zeb was turned into a jellybean genie made out of swirling jellybeans in the form of a vague humann figure constantly screming in the eternal existential horor of having your entire body stolen away from u JELLYBEANS ODONT HAVE bODYPARTS DUMMY
but ur right about ix; shes very forceful as seen in chapter 22201 when she used her plantinum skin to deflect the bulltet right back into corporal zargnon's gun causing it to explode in on itself adn defeat the entire league of darkness in a single climatcic end
rember that?
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Tofu Hop - Chappie 2! by
on 2017-09-06 13:21:00 UTC
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brandywinebaby89: BRANDYBABY! glomp golmp glom. kk so teh protal is bad b/cus its' not jsut steeling the bad fnagirls lik MorOna but aslo teh good ones lick Tallulah adn Jessaminthe, aannnnndd igues thats' aslo wh tehyr'e all to get her? lol keep reedin!
MrsSupernumerary: ofcurse yuo can yuse Tallulah in your'e story!!!!!!!!!! tast amasing. i lorv yuo!!!!!
Ronion: gald you licked my sotry!!!1
~#~#~#~#~
"Wow," said Tallulah, "it is so weird that I forgot about how we were childhood friends and played pranks on our siblings all the time!"
"Yes," said Jessaminthe, "that is so weird." (A/N: tihs is from MrsSupernumerary's WONDERFOOL sotry witch you shouldr go and reed WRIGHT NOW!!!!)
They were sitting in their room which was a Response Centre, but because it was part of Tofu Hop it didn't have a number, but they got to choose a name and they chose RIVENWOOD after their homes (A/N: cam upwiht that miyself!! lil). And they were waiting for the third person who would sleep in their room. "Which classes are you looking forward to?" said Jessaminthe.
Tallulah looked at her timetable, which was written in Elvish writing (A/N b/cus shes'an EFL so ist CANNUN taht she reeds elfis i. tihnk abut cannun alot yuo knoe). "I like the look of 'How To Be A Department Head', by the Sunflower Official," she said, "and also 'How To Not Be Human' by Illian the blue horse thing (A/N 4got teh name sozzzzzy!)."
"Yes," said Tallulah, "I like those too. But I'm most interested in 'How To Be The Best Agent', but it doesn't have a teacher listed, I wonder why that is?"
"I don't know," said Jessaminthe, "but we'll find out today. Look - it's our first class!"
"Good!" stated Tallulah. "What do you want to do until then? We could go and play pranks on people."
"But who would we play them on?" asked Jessaminthe. "Everyone in the PPC is so dreamy."
Tallulah thought about the agents she knew about. "What about Suicide?" she asked. "His name sounds bad."
"He's super-dreamy," said Jessaminthe. "He's only called that because so many girls have committed suicide when he rejected them, which he did for good reasons."
"Oh," said Tallulah, "I was wrong." (A/N: SEA?? shes' can't be an Mery-Sud bec/s seh gts stuffv wrogn!!)
"That's all right," said Jessaminthe, "you're still very beautiful."
Tallulah didn't think she was, but she didn't say anything because Jessaminthe always said that and it was no good arguing with her. "Maybe we could prank the other students?" she suggested. "What about Ruby and Kitty (A/N SHOTUOUT too deadpassion1479)?"
"Oh I think they are having sex in the next room," said Jessaminthe. "I can tell because of all the shouting."
"Oh," said Tallulah. "Then what about-"
At that moment the door swung open and the two girls looked round and an arrow shot between them and hit the wall and bounced off and NEARLY HIT TALLULAH only it didn't but the girls didn't get a chance to notice that because who should be standing in their door but...
"MORANA KRISTINE STEPHANIE HECATE KING!" shouted Tallulah and Jessaminthe at the same time, and then Tallulah said, "What are you doing here?"
Morana pulled out her archery things again and shot another arrow past Tallulah. "Oops," she said, "my hand slipped."
"Maybe it wouldn't have if you hadn't been in our room," said Tallulah (A/N WAT A COMBECK am i wright?!?!?!).
"Oh, but I'm not," said Morana evilly, stepping through the door and putting her things down and pinning her posters on the walls and putting her bag on the best bed and resetting the alarm clock to TOO EARLY and turning the radio to her music which was bad music. "I'm in my room... and I'm sharing with you!"
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A/N borroed som more carries!! aslo MorONa istill efil and NOBBYDY REED HER SOTRIES.
((Did you spot it? [Jaws theme]))
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yaaaaaaaaY!1 by
on 2017-09-06 12:53:00 UTC
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taht is suck a good twits taht shes' has to mary Supernumberary! aslo that tehyr'e only twits on teh fathers' side! ASLO TAHT TALLULAH IS HER CHILD HOODFIEND OMNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
neway your'e owsome
~JayBird~
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NO1 IS TALKONG 2 U!!! (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 04:10:00 UTC
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It's like talking to AIs that learned English from Twitter (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 01:41:00 UTC
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JAYBIRD IS AWESOME OK UR JUST JEALOUS (nm) by
on 2017-09-06 01:29:00 UTC
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OMG stop claming ma friend Jaybird u flamer@! by
on 2017-09-06 00:56:00 UTC
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JayBird is a GR8 WRIER and u SUCK. Ur just mad bcuz ur JEALUS u don't have any oringfal ideas like she does. Go cru in ur moms bawement an lave nice ppl like JayBird ALONG.
XOXOX
(( I'm sorry, I had to. JayBird is an Alpha Suethor, and Brandy is a sycophantic little sheep. ~Neshomeh ))
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Okay, thank you~ by
on 2017-09-06 00:12:00 UTC
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(Also, back on the news topic, if you really want to find out about the Wolfenstein series, you should probably check out the 3-part "History of Wolfenstein" video series on YouTube made by The Gaming Historian. It goes really in depth as to what each game in the huge franchise is all about.)
-Twistey