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None of this has anything at all to do with what I said. What I did was point out that you believed you were ready to come back, while proving that you were (in my opinion) not ready to come back.

Nothing you are saying has any bearing on any of that. Expecting you to hold up your promises in the very same thread you raised them is not disregarding your point of view. I have no idea what your points about guardrails and working outside the community even mean, let alone what bearing they have on this conversation. My point still stands.
You seem to still be placing the blame of the entire situation on this community, and the question is raised again: why do you even want to rejoin us if, in your opinion, we are all constantly wronging you and require your forgiveness?

I don't know why you felt the need to critique my explaining skills and compare them to 'other places.' That's irrelevant, too, and it looks like, from where I'm standing, a vague insult. Though, I understand your issues in communication, so I won't push that any further.

This is an awesome fic! Super interesting, and the protagonist is a really exciting character and a very original concept. I csn't wait to see where it will go.

[[AN: AUGH. You wake up the next morning and discover that you've posted to FFW drunk. Apologies for that nonsense. The following story will be up to my usual standards of quality.]]

The Aviator walked into Rudis and sat down at the bar. "Grr. I am sad and angsty," she said, in a sad and angsty. She then burst into tears and started crying. She took out some black paint and started painting her face.

"Oh shut up," said Acacia, who was sitting nearby. "If you keep crying like that, I'll stab you."

At this point, The Head of the PPC, Mr. Sunflower, walked in the bar. Everyone in the bar bowed. "Good news!" he said. "I just sent out all the paychecks, and we've done such a good job you can all get a two weeks vacation!"

Everyone cheered, except Agent Selene. She wished she could spend more time doing her job.

Just then, Thoth walked in. "I just loosed a bunch of Genestealers all over HQ. Jave fun dealing with that!"

"But why would you do that?" Asked Agent Cameo. "It doesn't benefit you at all?"

"Because," said Thoth, "I'm evil! Do you think I need a reason? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Just then, Tom hit Thoth in the back of his head with a crowbar. "Sorry about that. Come on..." He dragged Thoth back to the RC by his T-shirt.

Then Jay showed up and punched Acacia in the face. This started a barfight, which stopped why Terry Pratchett entered the room.

"But what are you doing here?" asked Jay.

"Didn't you know? I'm secretly an agent." said Terry. He then gave them all copies of the 50th Discworld novel, causing most of the participants in the fight to become so focused on reading that they stopped fighting.

Then the author of this fic walked into the room and was immediately shot by Agent Zeb for writing something this stupid.

• Ave and Dee are doing a wonderful job of the "friendly bickering" component of a relationship
  - Oh, Zeb. Are you going to be poking fun at those two for the whole mission?
  - Elanor is cute
  - ... I had to look up who Lainduilien was - that was a good meta joke
  - Heh. The Aviator's flying.
  - Yes, Zeb, please do play Bingo
  - Trying to clear water out of your head seems like a reasonable response to being italicized
  - Of course DoSAT has a betting pool on how many C-CADS Ave and Zeb will blow up
  - Ok, so this entire fic is basically going to rip off Disnay movies in an Avatar setting with some stupid extra sort of bender tossed in?
  - Good point about two-story houses
  - re: jungle "On second thought, Generic isn't so bad". snrk
  - That's a good description of picking food
  - Ave and Zeb drying off in the TARDIS (with the clothes and the butt-licking) is a cute scene. Also, where did the Aviator get that burn scar?
  - Zeb has a point about the hot guys
  - "thicker than Goyle"
  - I've learned something about wave heights today
  - The scene in which Zeb asks Ave if she'll be OK is touching
  - Nice of the Sue to make the assassination easier
  - Zeb putting on the earmuffs for Elanor. Heh.
  
  So, overall, this was short and had a lot of neat moments between the agents, and took decent advantage of the silliness of the fic to create some funny situations and lines.

The working on my permission request was part of working on myself. I was under the impression that you would give me a fair shot, so working towards that was enforcing that hope. I'm kinda disappointed that you just ignored me instead of talking to me about it. Not working on that between self-reflections would have inspired resentment.

(( - Tomash ))

I did say that I could do all of the work I could outside of the community. What happened to the plan of putting up guardrails? I feel like if you expect things to get better by continuing to do the thing I stated makes it worse, you're just disregarding my point of view entirely.

Add to that something that I noticed last night. When talking to you, I have a tendency to ask you to rephrase and clarify. That is something that isn't required in other places.

(( - Tomash ))

...of someone falling into Middle-earth, input instead it's the PPC...but then the main story started and it kind of sounds like you're copying the Jaycacia stories...? I mean, the had a prophecy too, I think...

Also, maybe you should make your paragraphs shorter. They're hard to read since even when there's dialogue it isn't broken up...

Maybe what you should do is skip backward to Kitty and Ruby introducing themselves, and have them narrate the story from the first person perspective because otherwise how are you going to get their personalities and looks into there? Then go through the mission and make them kick lots of butt! Maybe add prophecies. Prophecies are always a good plot. I love this story so far!

Also maybe, since I wrote this good review for you, could you go review my fanfic? It's called "The New Recruit", and it hasn't been getting much attention. Thank you and have a Foxytastic day!

-Nightmare Twistey the Demon Fox Animatronic

I think Zebbie-boy once again took the spotlight of the fic. I can't help but to be absolutely enamored by his actions, starting from the obvious blockage in the beginning, through the grooming part :P

Also, oh my Elune people are ripping off Moana already!? Yeeesh. Good call with the Glopsnerch, too. Nice to see more obscure PPC tech making it a comeback.

And I might be an outlier, but Farkas and the Dragonborn being all cutesy together is basically me and Aegis, so I know it can happen in real life. :P

Also, I hope you're pleased, I'm gonna end up wasting the day on Skyrim because of you.

Can't wait to see your take on the quests!

Muchas gracias for the review. I'm glad you liked it! Especially the sweet bits. One of my betas thought I might be overdoing the number of those, so I'm keenly aware it might not be to everyone's taste and am very happy at least one person enjoyed them.

And yes, there will be more. I have written an insane number of words covering the main questline and the Companions questline, up to Dustman's Cairn and the immediate aftermath. None of it is quite ready for beta yet, but I'm getting there!

~Neshomeh is practicing being a real writer and typing words almost every day!

Maybe you could stretch out the fic a little to make it longer and more detailed and more exciting? Like what does Captain Deadly look like? He's probably pretty hunky, so don't let words be spared when they could be used to describe his fabulous bulging muscles. Either way, this fic's plot is nice, and it fits right in with PPC canon! (Although sometimes it's also nice not to be canonical, but your fic is one of those situations where it's better to be canonical.)

Anyway, Thoth dearie, could you leave a good review on my fanfiction? It's called "The New Recruit", and I worked so hard on what there is so far - there's a lot more to come! It hasn't been getting much attention, though - the only comment I've gotten on it so far was a troll. :( Since I left this good review, could you leave a good review? Thanks and have a Foxytastic day!

-Nightmare Twistey The Demon Fox Animatronic

(Note from the Non-Suethor version of this author:

My apologies for calling you "dearie".

-Twistey)

Lets face it Luxury is a skank anyway who doesn't deserve to have true love.

I hope Jacques ends up with Chralotte though!!! I kno you made Ix pretty in this but I can't stop remembering her as ugly lol. At least you broke them up for this becuz thatd be weird.

A/n: So I did something a little different for this chapter... Don't worry! We'll get Ix POV eventually. I just want to set things up more first!

Chapter 2

Luxury’s pov

I was just back from fighting a slime monster when I next saw Jacques. He looked gorgeous as usual with his chocolate brown eyes and pale skin; and I just couldn't believe what he'd told me last night, so I took the opportunity to walk over and ask him.

“Jacques, did you mean it?” I asked him. He turned those beautiful eyes on me, but a tiny frown marred his lovely face. “You've really given up on...on everything...to find your True Love?”

“That's right, Luxury,” he replied. I shivered when he said my name, just like always. I feel so much more alive when he's around. “I'm searching for True Love. If someone like me can even find it.”

I wasn't really sure what he meant--didnt he know that just seeing him made my heart beat faster? But he didn't continue, so I tried to be as courageous as he always is, and asked, “Jacques...do you have anyone in mind?”

“No,” he said bitterly. “I'd know by now if my True Love was someone I'd already met. I'm probably destined to be alone.”

Oh.

“I,” I said. “Jacques, I...I always thought that, well, that if you loved anyone, then it'd be me! I mean, we have so much in common—”

“Not anymore, don't you see?” he interrupted. “I've given up sleeping with people I've just met—”

“I could give it up too, for you!” I cried. I meant it, with every fiber of my being. “Jacques, I...I love you.”

“And I love you,” he replied, and I stopped breathing, “but only as a friend Luxury.”

“But, but, but we've slept together…”

Jacques laughed bitterly. “So what? We've both slept with most of HQ! And you're not in love with anyone else, are you?”

I had to admit that I wasn't, but didn't that make this so much more special?

Apparently not, because he managed to end the conversation and leave a minute later, with a kiss on the cheek for me. I lay right down to cry there in the corridor when he was out of eyesight.


A/n: aw, poor Lux... unfortunately, this isn't her love story. Maybe sometime I'll write a story about that, but it's not this one!!

No preview of the next chapter this time... I'm still getting through what I previewed at the end of the last chapter! It should've said "preview of following *chapters*", probably... Heh :)

Don't forget to review! I love yo know what you think...and the more reviews I get, the faster I write!!!

I think I'll let my review speak for itself, but I'll add my kudos here.

If you're a fan of Skyrim, give this a read. It's excellent.

*wanders off to resume playing her Companion*

To be clear, I am abstaining from this vote as I did from the last one, but I agree that if the vote is no, the issue should not be raised again for a year at least. I think the community has been more than reasonable about this matter, and we deserve to be able to move on when the vote is over.

~Neshomeh

Really, Ix, I am utterly in awe of how well you write. TEACH ME YOUR WAYS.

I don’t want to hurt anybody, but I can’t promote Bram’s return; I’m too afraid that it might hurt many of us. Also, it’s obvious that Bram cannot fit in without lots of mentoring, and I don’t see who could do that. I know I can’t.

That’s an official abstain.

HG

And honestly, I see nothing in this that makes sense of why you (Bramandin) would even *want* to come back, except perhaps for closure (at most). Almost every paragraph of this, including the posted corrections, shows a very low opinion of this community; I accept that perhaps the description of the other online communities might not have been intended to sound so passive-aggressively negative, but it does. I have no understanding of why you'd want to interact with us again--the only reasons I can guess at are closure and liking the concept of PPC HQ--and what's more, as far as I remember those are the only two reasons I can pick out from the thread in May, too (which I've glanced at recently, but have no wish to reread thoroughly).

I'm not here to give you apologies on behalf of the community. If you want your accusation-turned-feeling that PPCers found (find?) joy in adding to your and your husband's stress addressed, then here: to my knowledge, no one here has felt that way, and if they have, then that's on them.

What's more, there have been a lot of stressful events this year. A number of people (a minimum of four, I believe) left; several more went on hiatus. I very nearly did the same myself; the *only* reason I didn't go on hiatus was that I took so long trying to put the post together that I moved in the middle. By now I no longer feel the same need for a hiatus, so I've elected (up until now, I suppose) to leave the dust more or less settled, despite having felt strongly that it ought to be noted that one reason I wasn't as active was because of what happened.

My point, however, is this: pretty much everyone who joined the Board before June of this year and was around in the March through May period was exposed to stress. Even the people who tried to stay on the sidelines. I sincerely hope that nowhere in all of that was someone grinning about adding to others' stress levels; and if there somehow was, then I certainly hope they've had a good long think since and will never do it again. And, to return to Bramandin, *if* anyone was doing that in your case, well, same note. But if anyone was, it's *definitely* not widely known. We are not and have not been sitting around giggling about stressing people out.

I did say I'm not here to apologize. What I will say is that it's regrettable you feel that way, and that you have so low an opinion of us.

I also agree with the other people who have said that the PPC and you do not seem to be a good match--not for you and not for us. And for that reason especially, I am voting to uphold the ban.

I'm glad you've found other online communities that are a better fit. I hope that goes better for you and for them.

~Z

Bram is arguing that she has matured and is ready to rejoin the PPC. This is the basis her appeal exists on. And within the very thread she raises this argument, she also says this:

'Despite you finding joy in adding to that stress, we survived it.

I had forgiven you for your mistakes, but you did nothing to reinforce it, so I'm retracting my forgiveness until you've earned it.'

Bram has not matured and is not ready to rejoin the PPC, and the very issues that led to her being banned certainly seem to remain in full force, as they have every single other time she's tried rejoining. I really don't know why she wants to join us so much, anyway, if we've wronged her and she still hasn't forgiven us.
But, anyhow, no. I vote against Bram returning. It's a bad idea for this community and for Bram, who clearly isn't having the most fun, on her side, either. And if this is an issue of mental health, heaps of people have already said that we are clearly not capable of sufficiently providing for Bram, nor is it really our responsibility. Healthier for everyone, I'd say, the block.

See you lot the next time Bram decides she's ready to return and we all need to vote on it again.

If the vote results in a continued ban, I don't plan to ask for another vote unless I have a good reason to believe that the result is likely to be different, and, in any case, don't plan to raise the issue for a long time (that is, at least a year from now in the best case).

My reason for this is that I don't want to put the community through a bunch of ultimately pointless re-votes about Bram, since that's counterproductive and at least a bit harmful for everyone involved in this issue.

I'm going to suggest that other people follow these guidelines about re-votes (or at least the first bit about a likely change in result), but, obviously, I'm not the PPC dictator and people should use their own judgment about if (or when) to bring up this stuff again if we continue the block.

- Tomash

I feel like this isn't a matter of mental health. For me, at least, that hasn't ever been part of the equation. The problem is... Honestly? I'm not going to claim to be in any way some kind of authority on the matter, but if I had to say what I think in one sentence, it's that I don't think that Bramandin has a history of improving. It seems that at any point, from writing to working with the community, Bramandin has a history of either not responding to criticism, saying they will work to improve themself but not providing evidence of it, or even spending the time dedicated to that on other things instead, as might be seen in Phobos' post, or stating that the issue is not with them, but with us, and I would point to their first response to Neshomeh for this. None of this is would seem, and I place emphasis upon the word seem, to point to a devoted effort to come to a better place that would lead to a better community experience for all sides. Because of that, I am voting that Bramandin's block be continued.

(( Bram would like to correct " Despite you finding joy in adding to that stress, we survived it." to "I feel that you find joy in adding to that stress." ))

That no one has denied it (( that we found joy in adding to the stress -Ed )) is a little bit concerning.

More time isn't going to fix things. I've done all that I can outside of the community.

(( - Tomash ))

I would also like to note an email I got from Bram on June 7, just one week into her ban (enacted May 31), asking to use one of my agents in their permission request.

I have often said that I feel that Bram purposefully tries to get around the rules and around punishment; and it seems to me the "I will ban myself for a short time to work on me" was just another example. I believe it was meant to placate us so that we would allow Bram to have her way. Bram didn't get to work on herself, she got to work on her next permission request while she sat out for the minimum amount of time.

-Phobos