Though it is a bit on the shorter side as far as your usual mission length. Nonetheless, the agent banter was good, as usual.
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Interesting mission by
on 2017-09-05 02:33:00 UTC
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Okay, now I have to ask... by
on 2017-09-05 01:24:00 UTC
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Okay, so you reference Zero Punctuation, and then you reference Citation Needed, both shows nobody else on the board or the Discord seems to know anything about except me. You're frequently rather blunt, and often kind of a jerk. You collected Tomb Kings and Legion of the Damned at least, both armies I've expressed interest in, and both of which bear some resemblance various respects to my army of choice, Thousand Sons.
...Are you my strange female (are you female? you looked female in the gathering picture, so I'm going by that...) clone/AU double/whatever who is British or something?
I mean, I don't think you are (no clone of mine would be this good at writing), but that is genuinely weird.
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O' the marvellous things! by
on 2017-09-04 23:14:00 UTC
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All the marvellous things I wish I could say, right now!
O' how this thread could travel off into the night;
O' how I could discuss and argue for hours and hours and only stop in order to trim my new, greying beard!
But it would all be pointless because, Bram, you have no capacity to consider that somebody else is correct! Why, that is why nobody thinks you're ready to rejoin the community! Notice the phrasing I used? 'Community.' Because the PPC is not a dumping ground in which to toss your written stories and leave them there in the dust, but a writing community, in which you must interact with, respect, and have compromise with! You seem to think you can compromise, boldly claiming 'The entire blame is not on the community,' but you then criticise it for not acknowledging its mistakes and for requiring amends and forgiveness!
Amends for what, Bramandin? Forgiveness for what? Bram, as long as we expect basic decency out of you, you will forever need our amends and forgiveness!
And, why, as you read this you will undoubtedly completely ignore the possibility that perhaps I may have a point, and instead blame it on the community (hey, 'community' again!) and explain that you vaguely improved somehow in some way or another!
In fact, it seems that, where I thought my basis for voting against your return was because I think you have absolutely no respect for anyone here, and because there are friends of mine who have been hurt by you while you remain unapologetic, and because your reputation has become as such that a simple relaying accident led to me reasonably concluding that you were passive aggressively insulting me, and because you have been given four separate chances to improve without changing a single thing beyond your name (in spite of your constant arguments against this), I was actually bigoted!
Why, you had been given another undeserved chance to show that you had improved, and you instead ignored every single thing I said and concluded that my reasoning was worthless because you decided I was being discriminatory!
Who would have guessed that Larfen J. Stocke, esq. was a bigot?
You think you know a guy!
But that's the end of that. This discussion is pointless and over and I regret even starting it, and I am more than happy for this entire situation to end with me a 'bigot' and Bramandin banned.
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So dumb by
on 2017-09-04 22:45:00 UTC
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This fic is stupid. I mean, look at how OOc Zeb is. We all know that Zeb is incredibly violent and hates interpersonal relationalships. I don't even know if she has genitals.
And Ix is usually so unyielding. She's very forceful
It's like everyone in the fic got personality transplants. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? JEEZ. YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY AN IDIOT NOT WORTH MY TIME.
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That's fair. by
on 2017-09-04 22:30:00 UTC
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Sendaria also exists to have people that aren't as out of control as the rest of the world - their specialty is being practical, to use your formatting. They're the Only Sane Men of the Belgariadverse.
And it makes sense that my points wouldn't apply in the Timuli, given that I've never read it. I can't take that into consideration. (It is fun to picture Garion as an Arend, though. Which duchy, I wonder...)
I've also read the Belgariad more, though not by much. And I also happen to like the Marags and Wacites. Pity about the whole destruction thing; so much potential...
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To quote Citation Needed's Gary Brennan: by
on 2017-09-04 19:53:00 UTC
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"I don't know whether the rash is from the cello or if it's simply because he's such a fantastic deviant. You should see what he does with his contrabassoon. Quite, quite dreadful. And very bad for the wood."
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I liked Dangerous Mission better. (nm) by
on 2017-09-04 19:38:00 UTC
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i dont't liste to playjerrisms.. fnigers in ears by
on 2017-09-04 19:37:00 UTC
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((Not Jay, just your Friendly Neighbourhood Huinesoron. Oddly enough, the first Jaycacia story was what led to actual!Jay contacting me out of nowhere...))
((And JayBird deserves everything she gets. ^_^ ~hS))
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Contrabassoon full of cheese?! I'M A BASSOONIST! by
on 2017-09-04 19:35:00 UTC
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You're abusing the instrument! I am really offended! }:@
Lol, just kidding, I'm not offended. It's all fine. It's all fine. *breathing slows back down to a normal pace* This fic... is really funny...
And man am I glad that my *ahem* female torso mass is of quite a small size.
-Twistey
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(Note from the Shmexier Version of the Author:
You play a what?
-NTtDFA)
Shut up.
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The reply in which you get wrecked! by
on 2017-09-04 19:21:00 UTC
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I AM NOT PLAGIARIZING JAYCACIA. (Good God, that's a stupid name! At least Morana is an actual name!) I didn't even know who Jaycacia was when I started writing this, and I still don't really think I'm ripping off of her just because a prophecy is involved.
Here are a few reasons why Morana is not a ripoff of Jaycacia:
1. Morana is not a ship child of two existing agents. Morana came from Sin City itself (Las Vegas), which if you'd read the goddang story, you would have known!
2. Morana has a completely different appearance and demeanor than Jaycacia. Jaycacia's color scheme is orange and yellow. Morana's color scheme is pink and black. Jaycacia's personality is sweet and cute like a 10-year-old is cute (as it says on the Wiki.) Morana is a different kind of cute, like a boy in high school would say that there's a "cute girl" in his class. That kind of cute. She also actually has a butt-kicking mindset, instead of just accidentally murdering things like Jaycacia does.
3. My inspiration for Morana was the greatest fanfiction of all time, My Immortal, and its protagonist, Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way. Again, I knew nothing about Jaycacia when I wrote the first chapter. Perhaps I should take advantage of this favorite in my reply to you by saying: You're a forking prep!
4. Prophecies are literally everywhere in stories. Anakin Skywalker was a chosen one. The three grandkits of Firestar were chosen ones and Firestar himself was a chosen one. Discovering that you are suddenly in a world with no idea what anything is is everywhere in fiction. Think about the first Portal game, think about Minecraft, think about Avatar (not ATLA, the one with the blue-skinned people.) And as such, you have ZERO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER, aside from Avlates_usted's suggestion about changing my fic (which I won't do, NOR take it down, NOR TEN OTHER SYNONYMS FOR TAKE IT DOWN, especially now that you're up in my a** about it), which now that my argument had been explained doesn't count as evidence anymore, that I was stealing your precious, preppy, ubermensching, Enya-listening, wolf-loving Mary Sue. Now that I know things about her, I wouldn't even want to steal your idea, she's such a piece of poop. BIRD POOP.
Hah. You can't even make a case, little bird. Fly back to your mommy's nest before you squawk another thing you regret or splat another white splatter with a stupid name on this earth.
-Nightmare Twistey the Demon Fox Animatronic
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(Note from the Non-Suethor:
Wait, is this actually Jay, or... Never been contacted by Jay before on the Board. Nice to "meet" you, haha. Did you like my Suethor's roast of your Suethor? I thought the bird jokes were a nice touch :P
-Twistey)
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...here. by
on 2017-09-04 18:48:00 UTC
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Sorry, the link got cut off: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html
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Voting to continue the ban by
on 2017-09-04 18:47:00 UTC
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I was not here when Bram arrived. However, based upon what I've seen of Bram's behavior in this thread and prior ones, I can in good conscience vote to continue the ban. Bram is, in my judgement, not ready to participate in this community, and as others have stated, unwilling to take responsibility for his or her actions.
Bram, I will put this as kindly as I can: although we try our best, the onus is not on us to understand your meaning implicitly. The onus is upon you to ensure that your meaning can be easily understood. If you are not capable of making yourself easily understood through the medium of text, then you need to practice until you are capable of it. Because you cannot participate in most online communities until you do.
It's not easy participating on online community. It's hard to admit fault, it's hard to get used to the norms of any community, and it's often painful to screw up. I've been there, I've done that, I know. But you have to learn to handle it better.
It's a bit outdated, and not always accurate (be aware of context in the community you're in!), but it's still worth reading some incarnation of one of the USENET guides to netiquette, such as the one viewable
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Voting to continue the ban by
on 2017-09-04 18:47:00 UTC
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I was not here when Bram arrived. However, based upon what I've seen of Bram's behavior in this thread and prior ones, I can in good conscience vote to continue the ban. Bram is, in my judgement, not ready to participate in this community, and as others have stated, unwilling to take responsibility for his or her actions.
Bram, I will put this as kindly as I can: although we try our best, the onus is not on us to understand your meaning implicitly. The onus is upon you to ensure that your meaning can be easily understood. If you are not capable of making yourself easily understood through the medium of text, then you need to practice until you are capable of it. Because you cannot participate in most online communities until you do.
It's not easy participating on online community. It's hard to admit fault, it's hard to get used to the norms of any community, and it's often painful to screw up. I've been there, I've done that, I know. But you have to learn to handle it better.
It's a bit outdated, and not always accurate (be aware of context in the community you're in!), but it's still worth reading some incarnation of one of the USENET guides to netiquette, such as the one viewable
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Voting to continue the ban by
on 2017-09-04 18:47:00 UTC
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I was not here when Bram arrived. However, based upon what I've seen of Bram's behavior in this thread and prior ones, I can in good conscience vote to continue the ban. Bram is, in my judgement, not ready to participate in this community, and as others have stated, unwilling to take responsibility for his or her actions.
Bram, I will put this as kindly as I can: although we try our best, the onus is not on us to understand your meaning implicitly. The onus is upon you to ensure that your meaning can be easily understood. If you are not capable of making yourself easily understood through the medium of text, then you need to practice until you are capable of it. Because you cannot participate in most online communities until you do.
It's not easy participating on online community. It's hard to admit fault, it's hard to get used to the norms of any community, and it's often painful to screw up. I've been there, I've done that, I know. But you have to learn to handle it better.
It's a bit outdated, and not always accurate (be aware of context in the community you're in!), but it's still worth reading some incarnation of one of the USENET guides to netiquette, such as the one viewable
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So... by
on 2017-09-04 18:45:00 UTC
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You wrote this by clicking the "Random page" button on the PPC Wiki and using whatever names popped up, right?
... That's actually not a terrible idea. Huh. Maybe less lolrandom, more actually taking the prompt seriously next time? I'd read it.
Honestly, I chuckled at this, too. A little. Don't judge me! We all have our moments of weakness.
--Lemony
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*raises wand* Lumos. (nm) by
on 2017-09-04 18:22:00 UTC
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Not that I want to spend... by
on 2017-09-04 18:21:00 UTC
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...more time raising my heart rate with this thread, but I did address your "I feel like you." A response exists.
Also, referring to getting around a ban as a "prank" is... I'm not even sure what to say. Odd, at the very least. I do *kind* of see why you're using the word, but it still feels very mismatched considering that you're talking about deliberately getting around a ban by posting under a new identity with, as far as I remember from the email logs Neshomeh posted, adopting a persona designed to while certain treatment involved. Pranks--at least, the fun, lighthearted kind--don't generally include bans. If anything, this was you trying to prove a point--something which I remember featuring quite heavily in the discussions in May. "Prank"...*really* doesn't fit, or not without diminishing the actual action into something less serious in nature, which... euphemism. That's the word I'm looking for. "Prank" here seems like a euphemism for what actually happened, and that's... the euphemism is very different from the reality, which isn't good in a thread that's trying to look at what was and if something's changed.
And one more thing: in the last few relayed posts, you've been saying that "[you] could do all of the work [you] could outside of the community." (That quote taken from the reply to Larfen's post titled "Irrelevant"). But, as far as I'm aware, you're referring to this post, in which you said the following: "More time isn't going to fix things. I've done all that I can outside of the community."
What I got from that was that you'd done everything you felt you could do outside the PPC community, and what you're telling and showing us now is the result. That nothing else will change beyond whatever we could somehow hypothetically do (and seeing as we're not, say, therapists, I'd expect that to be *very* limited). And that's not what you've been saying in later posts while presumably referencing that one--you've been, as far as I can tell, implying that you could do even more, or else that you could continue doing what you've been doing outside the community...? Honestly, I'm not completely sure what you're saying, but it doesn't immediately seem to match up.
That's all I've got. I'm curious what you meant in that first post and with your more recent wording, but other than that, I'm out again until something really catches my eye to comment on in this thread. If something I've written here is unclear, I apologise for that; it's been a long day and I didn't spend most of it in English.
My vote stands
~Z
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The New Recruit - Chapter 2 by
on 2017-09-04 18:01:00 UTC
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Author's Note:
Okay, so this story hasn't been getting much attention lately in comparison to other fics like that stupid one written in a German accent. Why do people like it? It has no plot whatsoever, no suspense, no destiny, no magic powers, no entire-universe-is-at-stake, no cute outfits, just sex and more sex! Well, hmph! I can do better than that! I'll show everyone what a PPC fanfic really looks like!
Also, my story got flamed by somebody named Lemony Eggnog (quite an unfortunate event, I should say! Hahaha!) and all I can say is... Is that the best you've got?! Or are all of you too scared to flame me because you know this fic is about to achieve greatness?! Hah! Cowards, all of you.
(Note from the Original:
My apologies to Lemony Eggnog. Thanks for the concrit! My apologies also to Ronion, who wrote the Biggen-brassen-whatever-en fic. I feel kinda guilty for finding your fic funny, but it is funny nonetheless.
-Twistey)
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---Chapter 2---
"Hello there, I guess," I replied to the sunflower, and the crowd quieted down. "I'm Morana... what is this place? Who are all of you?"
"Welcome to the headquarters of the Protectors of the Plot Continuum," said the sunflower, "or the PPC for short. I am the Sunflower Official, the head of the entire business, and these are the agents."
"Cool! So, what do you do?" Since someone had mentioned a prophecy and the sunflower had obviously known I was coming, these Protectors must have had some sort of cool purpose.
"The objective of the PPC is to maintain the canons of stories by eliminating things in fanfiction that would be unlikely to happen in canon. Like Mary Sues, bad pairings, characters not acting like themselves, that stuff."
"That's awesome! So what's this prophecy about?"
"Duh," said a grumpy agent with shoulder-length brown hair, "it's about you."
"Yeah it is," I replied, "but what do I do in the prophecy?"
"Let me give you the prophecy," said another flower. The crowd parted to allow another agent, who had blonde hair dip dyed red in a high ponytail and intense red eyes, and was wearing a different outfit from most of the other agents, walk across the room to hand me a small tablet made of marble. "Welcome," she whispered softly, then winked at me and disappeared back into the masses of people.
I wondered what that meant, but then decided not to think about it until later, and began reading the tablet. The font was an interesting sort of cursive, the cavities made in the rock by the chisel filled up with a pink and red glittery gem-substance. Nothing else was engraved into it.
Apparently, I'd been lost in thought, because someone in the crowd said: "Well, what are you waiting for? Read it!" And so I began doing so.
When canon is in danger and an impure powerful love appears in the night, two fallen agents like never seen before will bring the PPC to its former might.
"The fallen part and the like never seen before part, we know are about you and the agent who's going to be your partner," the Sunflower Official explained, "since you both fell through plot holes and there aren't really any agents who are similar to either of you."
"So, we're going to make the PPC great... again?"
"Yep."
"It did not say that you would surpass Jay and Acacia, just that you and your partner would do similarly well." This again was the grumpy agent, who upon closer inspection, seemed to be an elf of some sort.
The crowd waited for my answer to his statement. I was assuming that Jay and Acacia were really good agents from a while back in the organization's history.
So I spoke. "Try me."
They burst into cheers again and streamed out of the room, leaving just me and the sunflower. I was about to leave too, until he stopped me. "No partying just yet, first we must send you to your department and RC."
"What would those be?"
"You're going to be in the Department of Mary Sues, probably the most important department in the organization. You've already been assigned a partner, she's the other girl in the prophecy. Your response center is number 411."
"Okay, I guess I'll be heading off there. Or is there anywhere else I have to go first?"
"No, not really. Go to your RC, meet your partner, go on your first mission. You seem good enough to not need training here."
"Oh! Lovely! Thank you!" I waved to the flower and left for my room.
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Okay, I've gotten a couple other comments between the time I started writing this chapter and the time I ended it, so thank you to xXth0th999Xx for the good review! Nothing much to say otherwise! Have a Foxytastic day!
-Nightmare Twistey the Demon Fox Animatronic
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(Note from the Non-Suethor:
Why 411? Well, I really didn't feel like coming up with a Sueish number or using a letter, since it would be a little bit too over-the-top. 411 is actually the number that I hope I'll be able to use for the non-Sue "Morana" and her partner once I have Permission to make them actual agents.
I chose 411 because it's an important number in the game Spooky's House of Jumpscares, being the room in which a certain Specimen 7 appears. I have a feeling that I'm going to be using "Specimen ____ appears in the room with this number" numbers a lot for my agents' RC numbers, since they all have kind of an arbitrary feel and I'm pretty sure none of them are taken, at least, 411 isn't.
Why did I choose the room number for Specimen 7, then, instead of Spec 8 (my favorite) or Spec 9 (by far the most powerful and the final boss)? Well, for starters, Specimen 9 doesn't have a specific "room", but back on topic, Specimen 7 and what I've planned so far about non-Sue "Morana" have something in common. I'll leave you to speculate.
-Twistey)
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I vote to continue the ban. by
on 2017-09-04 17:53:00 UTC
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Bram, you need to understand that the community owes you nothing. You can talk about forgiving us or not, but honestly, I haven't lost any sleep over it, and I don't think others will either. You seem unwilling to accept your role in what happens, and for as long as that is the case, you definitely should remain separate from this community.
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... Are you sure? (nm) by
on 2017-09-04 17:48:00 UTC
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((Oh my G-d :D)) by
on 2017-09-04 17:34:00 UTC
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((I didn't even think of this happening when I made that post and it's beautiful :D
~Z))
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Ofcurse!!!! (nm) by
on 2017-09-04 17:05:00 UTC
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(( Relayed reply )) by
on 2017-09-04 17:05:00 UTC
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A one-time prank does not make a pattern of behavior. I wanted to come out a lot sooner, but July told me not to. I didn't like continuing the prank, but I did what I was told.
As for bending the rules, I was told that writing for the drawer is fine, and writing permission prompts has always been in the rules. I did say I was going to do it, and no one clarified anything different. Don't get mad at me after telling me it was alright.
I'm not asking you to walk on eggshells. I'm actually able to put up with a lot. What I do expect is that when I say there is a problem, I am not ignored. In turn, I will do my best to treat you with the same regard. A lot of the not-listening from before was because I felt not-listened-to. I may slip a little, and need leeway for that, but criticism is fine. I've been doing everything I can.
As far as the insults, some things can be worded better, but I feel like you can't take anything that's slightly critical. I did amend my one opinion to include "I feel like you" and I can't tell if anyone has said that isn't the case. It was something that needed to be addressed or else it would have bred resentment. This is one point for a mediator, which is a reasonable accomodation. (Tomash is mainly relaying, not acting as a mediator. We had slightly different expectations here that weren't worked out in the beginning.) Heck, just asking me if I meant it as an insult is already in the constitution. You're the only people who've seen things as passive aggressive, and I believe I've asked for what to do differently. I've read an article, and it says that it's an avoidance of conflict technique, but I feel that if I'm blunt you'd just complain about that. Tell me directly what you expect.
I also feel that you insult me all you want and expect not to be called out for it. You're making statements that are really biased and not at all representative of me. I've been called an asshole, delusional, and then there's your thread which is vitriolic and untrue. I particularly don't want to run the PPC. Suggest improvements, maybe.
The disregard is in the past, and a simple reaction to what was perceived as being dismissive to me. I have worked on that. Anything from 2016 on is a simple communication error. Since I can't remember if I actually apologized for the prank, I will do so in another thread, but I'm going to need some help because I can't remember the formula that makes it a valid apology.
(( For my part, even though I've been staying out of this, I disapprove of the eye-for-an-eye approach alluded to above as far as listening to us, and am not convinced it won't continue if Bram were somehow readmitted at this time
- Tomash ))
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... Was that in English? (nm) by
on 2017-09-04 17:03:00 UTC
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