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Specifically, the request for a list of events which Bramandin perceives as other Boarders being abusive.

I disagree, however, with the notion that this is the same sort of thread as the Grand Concilliary. That thread was a special case, intended to resolve past conflicts including one involving Tomash. I believe that last part is the important part with respect to Tomash being allowed to post - the Grand Concilliary could not have been allowed to pass without him having the opportunity to defend himself.

This, though, does not involve him, and is not a thread that is likely to result in any grand, sweeping changes to the community. Therefore, I do not believe it appropriate to lift his ban from posting for this thread.

I was actually thinking about starting another game, too, because they're so much fun.

('Thorondur' is a lovely Sindarin name meaning 'servant of eagles'. But it is not the name of the Lord of Eagles. I experience shame.)

hS

...I can make a case for zdimensia/Bramandin being in repeated violation of at least 5 articles of the Constitution. Most of which have nothing to do with their dodging of the ambiguous permaban.

Article 2) Do Not Flame. You are allowed to disagree with people, but Do Not Flame. There is a distinct difference between 'I don't agree with your opinion and I think that your theory is factually wrong' and 'You're an idiot and your opinion is built on lies and stupidity'. If you find that you're hurling insults around, just stop. This even (or perhaps especially) applies if you consider yourself to have been wronged by another community member. If it’s a misunderstanding, a flame is an unwarranted attack. And if they’re deliberately trying to provoke you, attacking them is exactly what they want - and damages the community as a whole.

Repeated accusations of intentional wrongdoing about various members of the community constitute Flames, in my estimation. Especially after it has been explained, several times, that those accused did nothing wrong.

Article 5) If someone says something that seems offensive, but you’re not sure exactly what they meant, ASK them first, before jumping down their throats. Astonishingly enough, most people aren’t out to offend anyone. (If they are being deliberately insulting, believe me, you’ll have a lot of backup.) Don't be afraid to ask what someone meant - it isn't silly to want the full facts. Equally, if there has been an honest misunderstanding, accept the mistake and move on. Apologies for making a mistake, and for being unclear, are recommended, but should not be demanded.

zdimensia/Bramandin repeatedly admits to assuming Bad Faith on the part of various members of the community, even when those members have explained their meaning.

Article 8) Wilful ignorance is not an excuse. If someone is ignoring the Constitution and claiming that they’re not really doing anything wrong - despite explanations to the contrary - that may constitute using up their chance. However, wilful ignorance on the part of the accuser is also not an excuse. If someone clarifies a genuine misunderstanding, continuing to push for an apology may count as persecution on your part.

Just...all of this.

Article 11) Thou shalt make thyself legible. Spell correctly and use good grammar to the best of your ability — remember, the PPC is a force for good writing, and that includes SPaG. Wherever you are in the PPC community, spell, punctuate and grammatise to the very highest standard. Occasional honest mistakes will be forgiven, of course — but everything else aside, it’ll be hard for everyone to understand you and respond to you if you go, "OMG! I cant belive taht newst movie is out! Its so gr8!"

I can read the words, but the sentences and paragraphs make no sense. There are non-sequitors galore, accusations lacking context, answering questions that were never asked, and any number of other problems. I can maybe understand that while a person is in the heat of the moment, but it's been days now, and it happens every time this type of discussion comes up.

Article 14) Stick to one penname across the PPC as far as possible — or at least make it clear that the different names are still you. For instance, your Wiki user page should mention your Boarder name. Please don’t deliberately use multiple names — it’s confuzzling and pointlessly annoying to start an argument with yourself, and we can usually spot it. (Of course, if you’re role-playing, that’s a different matter entirely — see Articles 16, 19, and especially 29!)

Creating a new name with a new intro post to pretend to be someone else so you don't get banned.



This is the sort of thing I am having a problem with, but it has taken me this long to voice it because I had to research it.

-Phobos, resting his case.

Alas, as usual, the lilacs are just about gone by now in this part of the world. They were glorious for a week or two, though. {= )

May the Force be with you, you hoopy froods.

~Neshomeh

^ Is both how I feel about forgetting that stuff, and how you misspelled Thorondor's name, creating a very handsome winged mini-Balrog. ^_~

~Neshomeh

If he fits the theme, of course. If not, Lucio from Overwatch because somebody's gotta provide the music for this gig, right?

Yes, I think it may be a good idea to wait a while so that the front page is no longer overcrowded.

Might be sensible to wait a few days, though - I don't know if people have the energy for another round yet. Or maybe they do!

hS

Plus the attack by Thorondur when he retrieved Fingolfin's body.

hS

Who is forgetful, and forgot to put her name in.

I'm afraid I'm a bit of a sucker for these sorts of games, and I'd like to try my hand at it.

The seven wounds left by Fingolfin?

I'm going to be horribly embarrassed by my awful memory when you tell me, I'm sure. ^_^; ... Unless, Silmarils? (Is that vague enough to not be spoilery? I dunno. Maybe it's okay at this point anyway.)

My guess was something like "transformative near-death experiences." Except then Gandalf would definitely fit.

We should totally invite Frodo, though. Sam, too, I think. Maybe all the hobbits?

~Neshomeh

...I don't think you understand the knowledge required. I very clearly specified that I need someone who's up to date with My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic , that means up to Season 7, Episode 7 of the US broadcast or Season 7, Episode 8 of the Canadian broadcast, at the date of this writing, at the least!

For clarification, required secondary knowledge, in order of importance, are:
1.- All Equestria Girls movies and shorts.
2.- All G3 specials and shorts, the Meet the Ponies series of shorts, all G3.5 shorts and .
3.- The G1 show My Little Pony Tales.

The original show is the one I require the least. And you didn't mention to be up to date in G4, therefore I assume you don't have enough canon knowledge to beta this fic.

Second, according to the anecdotes and recounts above, you seem to have issues with characterization and narrative, the things that worry me the most to get right. If you can't get your own characters right... How can I trust you to know if I got a character (which isn't even mine) right?

Third, research won't help you know how a character acts and reacts, you need to watch or read them on action. And if you couldn't keep up with four agents, much less you'd be able to keep up with five plotlines happening at the same time. And if I need to clarify stuff like this, you're not fit for beta duty.

Fourth, you seem to have a very bad reputation among the Boarders, and that doesn't exactly fills me with trust. Yes, that means I don't trust you.

And for all those reasons, I decline your offer to beta my work.

If her eye went, there'd still be scars - the art style just isn't good at depicting them. Yes, she has a bionic eye now, but the operation to put it in would also leave scars.

Eternally boiling eyes do have a purpose. Great conversation starters at parties like this one.

...now I want to write some dialogue from this party.

Thank you for the game! It was very fun! :)

Spoiler SPOILER spoiler spoilER SPOILer sPoIlEr SpOiLeR spOILer Spoilerman Does Whatever A Spoiler Can don't spoil my er How do you solve a problem like a spoiler? Spoi spoi spoi spoi spoiler SPAAAAAAAACE! Sorry about him. ~spoiler block

Yes, as several people have guessed, everyone who's invited has scars, most - but not all - on their faces. There are some borderline cases in there - is Picard scarred as a Borg? - but I did my best.

I am impressed both by how quickly the Board homed in on this - even those who didn't get it were clearly in the right ballpark (though Novastorme, I'm curious who you thought made just 'scarred' impossible; you kept trying to tack things onto it). I'm also impressed by how many people replied. I guess you are all still here after all... ;)

Also: I have never spent so long trying to find scarred characters I'd heard of. Yikes.

hS

I don't think the permaban angle was made explicit either when zdimensia was banned nor when she reappeared. I don't like the way she came back, but I also don't feel that retroactively imposing a permaban that wasn't clear at the time is... fair.

I also think - know - that zdimensia wasn't banned for being unable to listen; she was banned for racism and pro-Nazi statements. Neither of those have shown up anywhere near Bramandin, so I don't feel good about the idea of saying she's 'done it again', when she hasn't. (I know you haven't said that; I'm just explaining my thought process.)

That said... I don't like Bramandin's behaviour in this thread. I don't like her behaviour in the Iximaz thread. I don't like her behaviour in the chat logs with Neshomeh, and I don't like her behaviour in her two failed Permission threads.

She makes all the right noises for someone who is trying desperately to understand why people are mad at them, but when people sit down yet again and explain it... she keeps making those same noises.

I don't know. It just feels like some of the ban suggestions across the thread are less 'ban her for doing bad stuff', and more 'ban her for not taking it back very well'.

Let me be clear: I don't think Bramandin fits into this community at all. I think she should take the advice she was offered right from the start of this thread, accept that she's just not meshing with the PPC, and leave. But I don't know that I'm able to vote for us forcing her to do so.

hS

And also Fire Lord Zuko?