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It never even occurred to me to write fanfic about Agatha Christie (even though I once put on a fan production of Murder on the Orient Express with my little sister and a bunch of stuffed toys)! And Then There Were None will always have such a special place in my heart.

By the time ATWQ came out, I was way out of the target age group and firmly attached to my headcanons about Lemony Snicket and VFD, so I never quite got into them (didn't want to, oddly enough -- Lemony Snicket was a mysterious figure who communicated through coded notes stuck in your dry cleaning; it was weird seeing him have a life and childhood. That was narrow of me and I ought to give the series another shot).

Things I put into a category with ASOUE: The Name of this Book is Secret? Mysterious Benedict Society? The Candymakers? Anything by Daniel Pinkwater? Chasing Vermeer?

--Key

Thank you. I shall use this bookmark faithfully

I never actually posted any missions, and I am very embarassed by those agents in general, so that's probably for the best. But I think the wiki page I made under my old name is still up (oh god).

Spin-off of what? If you mean Sherlock Holmes than probably either elementary or the short story A Study in Emerald.

THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING ASOUF BECAUSE ONE OF THE TINY THINGS I WAS THINKING OF WAS "ALL THE WRONG QUESTIONS" WHICH IS A SERIES ABOUT LEMONY SNICKET AS A CHILD

Okay. Ahem.
The book The Manual of Detection.
Agatha Christie novels (and then they were none)

Though what little involvement I had with the actual situation made me think of it that way. As noted on the chat I am not in the right position to make a sound judgement; I just felt like delivering my two cents. I guess people who know the fuller picture would be able to make a better decision.

My agreement with Des on pro 1) and anti 2) still stands, though.

I love one-off novels, especially ones that need more fanfic (not that I would help write fanfic for them, but I'd join you in bemoaning the lack of it :P). All my fandoms are tiny and underficced (with the rather notable exception of Star Trek: TOS)(and I think A Series of Unfortunate Events is in the beginnings of a fanfic explosion thanks to the new Netflix series. . . I'm terrified).

--Key

Well, if you want to return to the PPC, you've made a really good first step by returning.
So, good job!
You're done!

Welcome back, mate.
My gift upon you is: this incredibly complex mechanical device!
You can do all sorts of things with it - keep doors open, keep gates open, keep hatchways open, keep windows open, keep curtains open. And then you can put it on a book to stop it from closing, or you can throw it at a window and it'll break the window.
Think of the possibilities that this machine, which took over five generations to put together and complete, can hold for you!
Think of all the entryways you could hold open with it!

So you got permission, oy? Who're your agents, then?
They on the Wiki?
Also also: what's your favourite spin-off?

Welcome! Back!

He found a bunch of them on an island and called it 'Rottnest Island.'
Rat nest.
Because, you know. Thought they were rats. On a giant nest.
He later described it as 'a paradise on earth,' so he must have really liked rats, too.

But, nah, they're part of macropodidae, which is the family that includes kangaroos and such.

It's a good thing, then, that Willem never figured that out.
Imagine his disappointment!

Often, you superficially answer questions, but don't address the issues in your writing which they refer to. For instance, if I asked you to clarify what you meant somewhere, you would give me an explanation, but you wouldn't revise the story to include that information.

To be fair, I was inexperienced when I beta-read your Permission piece, and a lot of my suggestions weren't very good -- I kept trying to make your story into something it wasn't, rather than helping you make it into a better version of itself (I'm sorry, and I've learned better since then; please don't write me off as a potential beta). But often you wouldn't reply to my comments even to say that you didn't think my idea would work, or didn't see how to implement it.

I can tell you have a hard time with writing or something like that -- your posts on the Board are usually quite brief, and you have someone else help you with Wiki editing -- so maybe it's not like you to have huge, long discussions with your betas. But if you want to be a writer, you have to be able to work with someone to help you revise. And this is something you will get better at with practice, like every other skill you're working on as a writer (and every other skill, period).

--Key has struggled with taking feedback all her life, and is getting better at it

I don't think "turning rabid and jumping on him" is a fair description of our behavior. Aside from the fact that "rabid" isn't a very good description for a bunch of people sitting around and calmly discussing a topic, it's sort of implying that we're unfairly persecuting him. I don't think a permaban for the ongoing harassment of a member would be unfair persecution.

Re: 2 - I don't think a short, symbolic ban would have much effect, to be honest, since Glarn isn't really around to be affected by it. Any other disciplinary actions would send the same message.

Re: 1 - I think this is the very least that should be done; however, I think it's also somewhat risky, since from what little I saw of this, Glarn never showed any remorse for his actions. I'd at least recommend that he be banned from Discord for a while after he returns, and only allowed back in once he demonstrates good behavior (perhaps a certain period of activity on the Board without any issues?). I also think any instances of harassing a member, at any point, should be met with a permaban.

But a bunch of the other mods were really keen on having their input, which is why I suggested the idea of an advice-giver role as a compromise: voted on by the community, they'd be trusted enough to participate in the decision-making process but not enough to make final decisions. But you're right about the worthy/unworthy dynamic. I think I've been pushed over into the camp of "everyone should be able to see mod discussions, or no one should," closer to the "everyone" camp.

I think my post noticeable achievement was nearly having no permission because I had an agent who collected Sue hair samples. And otherwise was Sherlock!Moriarty!Edgy
Whoops.

Like Tomash said, I wasn't around for most of this (life's a turd and I'm an idiot; I really should take a break from the PPC but I love you all too much), so when I first heard about the need/desire for a mod channel, I kind of leaped on it, because. . . heh, I didn't know what had happened, so I immediately assumed that all the other mods were constantly having Important Discussions all the time which I was being left out of because no one bothered to PM me, and if the channel was set to "all mods can participate," I'd finally get a chance to prove that the community elected me for a reason. So for me, it was ALL about "how do I get the scary oldbie mods to coordinate better with ME?" *nervous self-deprecating giggle* (Looking back on it, it made perfect sense for people not to be asking for my input; I really wasn't there.)

But yeah, I didn't really know what I was talking about when I made the post. And as a newbie-turned-mod, I definitely think we need better protocol for kicks, because I am not confident enough to be sort of making things up as I go along.

Here's my thoughts: What happened with GlarnBoudin seems like it was handled well, just that the well-handling of it came later than it should have. Perhaps it would be better to do it with fewer warnings: if someone's violating the Constitution (by flaming, not warning for non-family-friendly content, etc.), and isn't being misunderstood (as per articles 5 and 8) and refuses to apologize (as per article 7), they should be kicked then and there, with a message to them explaining why. When they're ready to make reparations, they can PM a mod and ask to be invited back, with an apology and acknowledgement of their wrongdoing (to do this, all the mods need to be on the same page about why the person was kicked and what would constitute amends from this person). If they keep up their bad behavior, it's ban time and goes to the Board for discussion.

--the Littlest Mod

Welcome back, returnbie. Please have this piece of music as a welcome-back gift.

1) sounds fair enough, and if he continues being stubborn it will give the clear message that it was his mistake. I also don't approve of 2) because it makes us look like we're turning rabid and jumping on him, which won't help the situation. And I do hope that all this will hopefully be a push in the right direction for all of us, including Glarn himself if he eventually sees sense.

I can see both sides of the debate about 2, and I'm all in favor of 1. I get that punishing Glarn in absentia not only seems kind of cruel, but also does nothing to discourage him.

However, I think something should still be done if he were to resurface tomorrow. Perhaps a few days' ban if Glarn comes back within a certain timeframe? I don't know, personally.

For what it's worth, I'm sorry I didn't speak up, either. Not beyond calling him out a couple of times.

I've never heard of those before. What are they? Some kind of large-ish rodent, looks like?

~Neshomeh

Bah, who am I kidding, just looking at them is enough to make me smile.

*snuggles quokka*

Then:

1/ A mod-only channel would presumably have much less traffic.

And

2/ My remaining comment on the topic is: while I'm concerned that the current proposal seems to be being analysed for its positives rather than its negatives, I can't actually see any problems with it.

hS feels kinda self-aggrandising here, but figures this sub-thread existing means it's sort of requested that he post this bit again, despite how weird it feels, and without implying that it's a particularly useful or important comment

Well to add on to my original post to try and clear things up: My problem isn't even specifically with individuals involved. It's to do with the PPC's culture and ideas of how a live chat should be run, in that it should be run essentially like the Board is. I feel that this is a poor way of doing things, since a live chat is fundamentally a different beast than forum postings.

This isn't the first time something like this has happened, and I'm saying this as someone who feels he should have been banned years ago, too. That this has happened again and keeps happening is a sign that the community is past the point of needing to rethink how we manage live chats. It's not just this incident we should feel bad about (and I'm restraining myself with how bad I feel, personally), it's that we seem to set this up to happen over and over again. And I dunno about you, but allowing such a culture that allows such things to take place multiple times and not feeling bad about it is, frankly, insensitive.

But that's me.

(Also I am not ignoring anyone. I'm just posting once a day because this is something I'm passionate about and I don't want to let my emotions run me over too much.)

Here's the link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3dXJSAudWNDV3VnQ1o3SzZvaWc/view?usp=drivesdk

Hey guys it's Skarmory's brother again and I figured I could use your help.

So you know the first Fnaf song from The Living Tombstone? I wasn't satisfied with the ending where it just cut off. So my solution was a rap bridge! Unfortunately I can't freestyle worth a damn so I thought I would turn to you guys. I extended the audio to accommodate the bridge too if you'd like to hear it. Where would you want to have it uploaded? Thanks