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(("Excited to be in such a large combat you yell something back down the hall before continuing to fight." makes me think Keegra wouldn't notice he's been pacified, especially since Virro pacified him earlier but he kept fighting.))

((Because by that definition, the fight has ended.))

I'd prefer payment with some pure metals, gems or minerals, I'm working on a new earth focus, and prime materials like this would be useful, without speaking about potions, other items... Besides, providing energy just like this isn't practical.

Now, my, rather limited I admit, experience was mostly about keeping the special stuff in weird places, but I guess i could work about that.

But of course, I cannot do anything without more specific informations. Informations I'd like to hear about before promising anything on that front.

Specifically, this version by the Tolkien Ensemble (have you heard of them? They are awesome).

Actually, now that I think about it, it's probably in your best interests for me not to sing the Lay. The highest notes are juuuust out of my range, so it results in a lot of screeching. I said I'd sing, I didn't say I'd be good at it.

Speaking of the Tolkien Ensemble, though, they've set practically--in fact, possibly all--of the poems in LotR to very nice music, so whatever you pick, you've got a singing option too. Your preference!

-Alleb

First of all--no, hold on. Pre-first of all: your thing with the names I *can't* I was actually laughing so hard I had to take breaks to look away and *breathe*.

Okay. Now. First of all: Unless I'm gravely mistaken, Biblical Hebrew actually does involve some discussions of more earthly matters--wars and rape and begetting children and leprosy and so on. I doubt it's so extensive (from what we know, anyway; doubtless there are many words that we just don't know) that you could have a complete conversation about day to day matters or sickness--that's what happened when Modern Hebrew was being created, from what I heard, they eventually had to make up new words so that they could ask someone to put the kettle on--but I believe there's enough to start with.

My second point is just an addition--for some centuries in Europe (idk if this applied to speakers of Ladino and every other Jewish language that isn't Yiddish or not) Yiddish was used as the spoken language--the day to day language--and Hebrew was only used as a written language and even then primarily for religious purposes (though there is this great thing about the Rothschilds communicating in Hebrew letters so that no one else could read it). Basically, it was a diglossic situation. Nowadays, of course, Modern Hebrew exists and is in use--but it had to be developed quite a bit to become an all-purpose language again.

And now I'm out of things to talk about (apart from 'say, speaking of parallels, I have one about German and Yiddish!') so I should probably do the sensible thing and go back to my essay. But yeah. Those are my points. And thank you so, so much for the naming thing, and if a werewolf!sons of Feanor ficlet appears...you know where it came from.

~DF

Personalities, appearances, what they do, how they die. Doubt they'"" ever come up but it's nice to know anyway.

Hebrew is a spoken language which used to be almost a ceremonial one. Latin is a ceremonial language (particularly in Catholicism, but I think I count academia too) which used to be a spoken one. I can't really get my head around people chatting about their bedsores in the language of alea iacta est or... well, it turns out I don't know any Bible quotes in Hebrew, but the point stands. ;) So why should Scape be able to imagine it in the language of elen sila lumenn' ormentielvo?

It's not about what you're speaking. It's all about what's written with it.

hS

If it can't do any good in the fight, it can at least deprive the (possible) future bodyguard of their weapon. While so doing, it crawls into a position far enough from the fight to heal the party members afterward, framing its neck to see the room beyond and report the number of orcs to Virro.

(Retconned)

The pain of the sword cuts on her arms seemed to clear Keegra's head and she realized what the orc was shouting. "Orc have more in other room! Stand down!"

((Edited after a bit of discussion with Storme.))

He would much prefer if he got a bonus in the check do to him also being a shardmind, but he doubts that would be the case. He lets someone else pick up the sword.

"Virro, be quicker to notify us when you do that."

((Whilst the combat will appear to go sequentially dependent on the characters position in the order of things, so long as Orc 1 has health we will assume for this (and all) combats that they are actually happening simultaneously))

Virro: (10 - 4Cir = 6) Approaching the Orc, you use your skill with words to try and enthrall him onto your side (20). You succeed in making him believe that, not only is your side in the right but that he is actually your personally bodyguard. Unfortunately your fellow adventurers ignore your pleas for them to calm down and not fight the Orc and so you watch as all your work may be for nothing. Gained (if he survives this round) Orc Bodyguard.

((P.S you can try and enthrall anybody who isn't a PC))

Evard: (6 + 3Cir = 9) You are able to successfully flank the Orc and make use of your natural instinct to backstab any enemy you see. You do so well at the charge you are able to put some of your momentum into hitting the Orc harder than normal (+1 Damage this Round)

Combat!: (Evard vs Orc 1. Evard gets 10 (2 + 3Cir + 5Dam) vs Orc 1 gets 12 (4 + 6 + 3Arm - 1Cir) Nothing happens. Evard's second attack: Evard gets 19 (12+ 3Cir + 4Dam) vs Orc 1 gets 12 (4 + 6 + 3Arm - 1Cir) Orc loses 7 Health) Despite your best efforts as you rush to the Orc's left flank whilst trying to get into the best backstabbing position, you don't aim your blows as perfectly as you might otherwise do. Whilst the Orc's armour seems to take your first blow, your second pierces the armour and strikes the Orc in its side. As a result you hear the Orc let out a loud cry of pain. That must have hurt.

Uriel: (7) You succeed in stepping up to the Orc and get ready to protect your fellow Shardmind from its attacks. Deciding to forgo your mace this time, you use the abilities you gained when you trained as a Brawler to your advantage.

Combat!: (Uriel vs Orc 1. Uriel gets 13 (11 + 2Cir) vs Orc 1 gets 11 (3 + 6 + 3Arm - 1Cir) Orc 1 loses 2 Health. Uriel's second attack: Uriel gets 6 (4 + 2Cir) vs Orc 1 gets 11 (3 + 6 + 3Arm - 1Cir) Nothing Happens) Charging in with the others, you get a good couple of hits off against the Orc, surprising it. Whilst this does manage to get its attention off of Xiv'riit it now turns it attention to you.

Keegra: (8 - 1Inj = 7) You succeed in getting up and charging into the fray, noticing others charging in alongside you makes you angry. You are the Vanguard, you should charge in alone, this anger helps focus you and clear the headache bought on by your concussion.

Kombat!: (Keegra vs Orc 1. Keegra gets 11 (9 + 3Dam - 1Inj) vs Orc 1 gets 25 (16 + 6 + 3Arm), Keegra loses 4 Health. Keegra's second attack: Keegra gets 19 (17 + 3Dam - 1Inj) vs Orc 1 gets 25 (16 + 6 + 3Arm), Nothing Happens. Keegra's third attack: Keegra gets 21 (19 + 3Dam - 1Inj) vs Orc 1 gets 25 (16 + 6 + 3Arm), Nothing Happens.) Your first punchlands badly the Orc moves slightly and so instead of his gut, your strike hits longsword, cutting your arm slightly. The sight of your own blood makes you forget tactics and go for 2 wild blows, neither of which seem to faze the Orc.

Xiv'riit: (3) as badly wounded as you are, there is no way you can do anything but back up and take a breather, angry at the Orc and whichever divine force put you in its path in the first place.

Kali: (11) Your mantra as you look through the weapon racks seems to be twisted by magic itself as you feel drawn towards one particular sling. Holding it you recognise it as the Deer Shot, a weapon created by a particularly sadistic Halfling Ranger. Every so often instead of the pebble that you load the sling up with, the sling will fire a full size, live, Deer at the target at the same speed the stone would have come out of. Happy with your acquisition you prepare to help your allies in the battle. Gained Deer Shot(+3Dam, Deer Fling)

Yeleni: Surprised at the sudden combat you stand around, unable to move or do anything to help your team mates.

Orc 1: (6) Excited to be in such a large combat you yell something back down the hall before continuing to fight.

Combat: (Orc 1 vs Uriel. Orc 1 gets 2 (2 + 1Dam - 1Cir) vs Uriel gets 14 (7 + 5 + 2Arm) Orc 1 loses 4 Health) In his (futile) attempt to get at the Shardmind he had attacked rather than the one who was now in his way, Orc 1 decide to put his head down and charge. That was his first mistake. Unlike the Shardmind he originally attack, this one was made of crystal and so a headfirst charge alongside a waving sword, doesn't work that well against it, in fact it is highly likely the Orc suffered some kind of damage at least to his skull (good thing he is from now on enthralled to follow someone else's orders, huh?). In the midst of this the Orc also manage to drop his sword on the floor. Leaving it for anyone to pick up.

Characters:

Virro: Weapons - , Armour - , Other - (+1 Cir when guarding a door or doorway), Orc Bodyguard (You control what your Orc Bodyguard does each round), Health 26/26

Evard: Weapons - Dagger(+2), Dagger(+1), Armour - Studded Leather Armour(+4, Invisibility), Other - Invisibility (Can turn invisible for one round (counts as a passive action), Cannot be noticed or attacked by enemies whilst invisible, +1 Circumstance when attacking whilst invisible. Invisibility can be activated once every 4 Rounds (Rounds Remaining 4)). Health 23/23

Uriel: Weapons - Mace(+1), Armour - , Other - Tea, Health 29/29

Keegra: Weapons - , Armour - , Other - Concussion (-1 Injury, 1 round remaining), Health 18/22

Xiv'riit: Weapons – Spork(+3), Armour - , Other - , Health 10/28

Kali: Weapons - Deer Shot(+3, Deer Fling), Armour - Leather Armour(+1), Other - Deer Fling (Once per room, you may fling a Deer instead of a stone at an enemy. This does +1D8 damage, and the difference between the offence and defence scores (either way) is taken as damage by the Deer. If it survives this it stays around as a permanent companion following your orders), Health 12/12

Yeleni: Weapons - Quarterstaff(+2), Armour - , Other - , Health 26/26

Orc Bodyguard: Weapons - , Armour - Studded Leather Armour(+3), Other- , Health 13/26

On Floor: Longsword (+1)

But I don't find either sort of Elvish lacking. Foreign yes, but not lacking. After all, I'm used to discussing earthy things in the original language of the Bible.

And well, I was more thinking about the lines of 'if they saw each other', not the actual possibility.

And *shrugs* First and Second wouldn't have a way to travel to meet her (and why would they want to?) and Five through Thirteen aren't nearly immature enough to go back in time for the sole purpose of trolling. :P

My day is made. Tolkien, you genius, you.

~Neshomeh

... but I have to throw in a thirteenth-hour link:

Twenty-Two Words You Never Thought Tolkien Would Provide, including terms in both Qenya and Gnomish (ie, the early forms of what he developed into Quenya and Sindarin) for multiple bodily fluids (and one bodily solid). And also balfaug, a delightful Gnomish word meaning pretty much literally 'rascally drunk'.

It's Tolkien; there's always an answer. ;)

hS

... there is a 'poetic' Elvish word for having sex. ^_^ Yes, they not only have the noun puhta, but also a poetic verb púcë. One assumes they also had non-poetic words, but this is Tolkien we're talking about.

In general, Tolkien obviously didn't talk about bodily functions himself, but we know from LaCE that the Eldar celebrate begetting-days, not birth-days. That implies a lack of taboos about at least one bodily function, which we can probably extrapolate to others.

So while the actual answer to Scapegrace's question is 'dunno', a likely answer is close to Nesh's: they would have spoken as openly about them as seemed reasonable, probably using poetic terms that nevertheless convey their meaning very nicely.

If we want to extrapolate a little further, bear in mind that Quenya is Tolkien's 'elf-latin'; in Middle-earth, maybe they used Quenya borrowings to discuss technical (including medical) issues. Hmm... I think I might sit down and write out a dialogue about (say) blood poisoning at some point, just to see how it works out.

Scape, I think your question comes from a very English viewpoint. What you really mean is 'where's the Germanic?'. Quenya and Sindarin are like the Latin and French roots of the 'noble' half of English, but they don't encapsulate the Anglo-Saxon everyday vocab that you instinctively feel should be there.

I'd be interested to hear from Hardric on this point, actually (and anyone else who comes from somewhere with a non-mongrel language): do you feel like Tolkien's languages lack the tone for earthy discussions?

(And finally: if they really want to be crass, I bet they borrow from Mannish tongues. Mortals have a lot to swear about, and there's nothing better than giving your idiotic subordinate a proper tongue-lashing in Beorian to get some anger off your chest.)

hS, rambling

“I’ve been around a couplea Time Lords before,” and I guess the 'of' is missing too.

As for the rest... Well, I think you pretty much saw how fun and enjoyable I found this one back on Discord.

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Now, comedy would have been quite harder to get if Rina the First, or the Second, was the one meeting Ave, rather than Fourth.

Perhaps something akin to the nature-based language used in traditional Chinese medicine, which I'm learning about lately due to working as a receptionist at an acupuncture clinic. {= ) TCM talks about conditions/symptoms like "heart fire," "yin deficiency," "wet cold," "stagnation of the chi," "wind," and so forth. It's not exactly anatomy and physiology as we know it in the West, but it's worked pretty darn well for thousands of years, just with a different sort of vocabulary that doesn't translate particularly well to Western terms.

I could see Elves approaching the subject in much the same way, is my point. Lots of reference to things observed in the natural world.

Also you try inventing a whole language from scratch and see how you do AHEM, sorry. Go back in the corner, Inner Tolkien Nut. Personally, I've never understood why people think French is so beautiful, so, y'know. De gustibus non disputandem or however that goes. {= )

~Neshomeh