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I have a little trouble. While the first draft of my first mission has benn Beaed successfully, the second draft (minor modifications,the only true new part is an extra piece in the ending) has been sent to Anamia, that quite disappeared. The trouble is that the ending has two of her agents (we agreed to deliver the Sue bodies to her scientists since they were probably a new species), and so I think I should wait her approval. But it's more than two weeks that the mission is ready, however. What should I do?

One of my agents is a recicled main character from a remake of one old fic of mine, that I never wrote. The funny thing is that another remake of the same thing is in the works, and so another very similar character, with even the same name, is around.

I have a couple of Agents from continua of mine that I've either written stuff for but never published, or made up around the character to explain them.

My characters, in particular, tend to take on lives of their own in my head; sometimes I find questionnaires or interview-style things online, or friends send them to me, that are designed to expand your OCs' details a bit more, so you know more about their motivations etc. and aren't writing someone one-dimensional. And most of the characters I run through them just overflow with details as soon as they get the opportunity. I sort of have difficulty with the idea of considering them just words on a page/screen when they've got full lives, backstories and families developed in my head.

And they tend to pop up in some of my IM chats to comment on a subject they find particularly interesting.

I am neither shocked nor horrified that you have read the Twilight books. To be honest, I have seen the first two movies and I will agree that the bits that are not Bella and Edward centric are rather interesting. There is a cool world there. . . hidden behind a cardboard cutout and a lump of glitter.

One of my own agents, Deuce, is from my unpublished original canon. I haven't gotten any flack for it so far.

There are agents from unpublished fics already--the "semi-fic blips" who are generally Sues or OCs from unpublished stories. So it's not at all a stretch to think that a character from unpublished original fiction might join the PPC.

Both your agents look good, and at least from the fandoms I know (FMA-kinda and Death Note), your writing samples are really good.

One quick question, though - if Summer is using magic, is it going to bleach her hair?

Is it acceptable/done to have Agents whose home continua are in our own unpublished origional fictions. I feel like this is a stupid question and/or one I've read the answer to, but I can't remember, so here I go asking it.

Basically, I ask because the ideas I have for Agents both are the above. One is from the fantasy setting for my NaNoWriMo novel for this year (yes, I already havr a plot outline for it. Forgibe me if therr are spelling errors now, as my phone has just decided it'd be grand to glitch. I can't see what I'm typing anymore. Anyway:

Regards,
Lleu Llaw Gyffes

Your agents seem interesting, and although I know none of your fandoms, your writing seems sound. I'm going to ask people I know who know about anime to have a look at your fics, but I am leaning towards granting Permission :) Give me a couple of days to get the final checks done and I'll let you know my final verdict.

(NB: Having read one of your fics, I'm pleased to say it was very interesting despite my not knowing the fandom!)

tl;dr - am standard human female with mind as impressionable as dollop of warm wax.

Name: Trojie
Gender: Female
Nationality: British (living in NZ)
Fandoms: Narnia, Merlin, Harry Potter, Star Trek, Tamora Pierce, Lord of the Rings, Discworld, Good Omens, American Gods, probably more that I'll remember as soon as I hit 'post'.
Hobbies: Writing, singing, playing the guitar and the bagpipes, fanfic, fanvids,
Likes: slash, angst, interestingly warped power dynamics, comedy, eating high-sugar foods, fruit juice, cowriting things with Pads, feedback on my writing.
Dislikes: Bad biology, shouting, awkward situations, stressful situations.
Other: I hate chat programs but you can catch me on LJ at agenttrojie.

I don't know a thing about the fandoms your agents are from. I have no idea what works there and what doesn't, so I can't really say anything except that they seem to have a lot of special powers between them, which makes me raise an eyebrow.

Sorry.

~Neshomeh, nonplussed.

(I checked with Techno-Dann and Neshomeh on this, so no freaking out, okay? Okay. Just a bit. But no more than that.)

Hey, guys, it looks like the main current Permission Givers seemed to have drifted off! Or are not doing their jobs here on the Board. It's such a shame, real life seems to have happened to them (just as planned, yes....).

Anyhow!

For most of you newbies who aren't aware of how things go, normally someone (in this case, me!) goes "Hey, where did the PGs go? We need more!" and then suggestions are made.

Also, there's this thing about general consensus. This means that there should be ideally be more than a few agreements that person X, Y, or H^2 are agreeable for nominations. Simple majority, and whatnot.

To start this thread off, I'm going to nominate Vixenmage, because she's been around for ages, knows all the PPC stuff, and is nearly not sane. Also she is good person and isn't dead, all of which are excellent things for a nominee for PGs to be.

Name: PoorCynic, aka Brendan

Gender: Male

Nationality: American

Fandoms: Avatar The Last Airbender (the cartoon, not the movie), the DC animated universe, Mass Effect, Left 4 Dead, Discworld, Doctor Who, Firefly, MST3K, Red vs Blue, Sherlock Holmes (movie and books)

Hobbies: Video production, reading, video games (mostly strategy and western RPG), writing film reviews

Likes: History, popcorn, diet soda, The Daily Show, anything with Stephen Fry, crossword puzzles, anything by Bill Bryson or Dave Barry, well supported and plausible slash

Dislikes: Political punditry, people who spout opinions without first doing any research, people who yell or sing into their headphones while playing online video games, stupid comparisions to Hitler or the Nazis, tomatoes

Other: My missions are posted on LJ under the name vgdivision. My name on the Paranoia Live bboard is Elm-R-FUD.

Putting the Complete List page into a more concise format is for the sake of people looking for spinoffs. The DMS division list I think should stay the same because it's about the divisions themselves, rather than about listing missions.

Phantom of the Opera is in Rare Fandoms because it doesn't have a huge number of fics written about it. FF.net has only 174; so while the musical itself is a pretty big deal, the fan fiction isn't.

I guess it depends on the definition of Rare Fandoms. Is it that it's a rare fandom when nobody knows about it; or is it a rare fandom when there's not a lot of fan fiction about it?

I am going to alphabetize my edited version and substitute it in the complete list; it can always be reverted back if it's discovered people don't like it.

It's more of poor Lee, 'cause I've got ...plans... for her over the next few missions. *evil grin*

And yes, I do! If they do something original with it, I'd be fine, but when they steal key scenes from canons, that's when I've got problems.

Before I found the PPC, I really had no concept of fanfiction besides 'movie/TV/literary characters sleep with each other regardless of actual personality.' They weren't really things I actively sought out. I didn't even know what a Mary Sue was.

I joined up because of how solid the community seemed. Almost everyone appeared to be a lot like me: smart, witty folks who didn't really take themselves that seriously. I wanted to practice my writing in a community like that.

It was actually trying to avoid the typical SCK pattern that I found the most difficult thing while writing my first missions. I scrapped quite a few drafts because I felt that my focus was shifted away from jokes and character interaction to the eventual assassination. There are still a couple missions where I think I fell into that trap.

That concern was one of the major reasons why I developed a Bad Slash team. I've actually had an easier time writing Bad Slash missions as compared to Mary Sue missions, not to mention more fun. And hey, if you're not having at least a little fun writing a story then you're probably doing it wrong.

I have no idea if anything I just wrote makes any sense in regards to the original post. If it helps, then that was my intention. If it's gibberish, than ignore me.

In the comments of the link, someone pointed out that that description was equally true of Toph. I was pointing that out to go 'oh, look, this character that can be described this way also is NOT a Sue'.

Saying that a character that hasn't even been properly introduced yet seems like a Canon!Sue is disingenuous, especially when it's by the creators and writers of the original Avatar series- I'd hardly call their characterization of any of the A:TLA characters that clear cut or prone to making Canon!Sues.

Think before you throw accusations like that around. Because calling female characters- canon characters- Canon!Sues before you even know what the character is like is inherently misogynist, unfair, and wankish.

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1 - Alphabetize. If we're going for more organization, you can't go wrong with alphabetizing.

2 - I contest the inclusion of the Phantom of the Opera in rare fandoms. We may not have too many people willing to brave the cesspit that is PotO badfic, but it IS a wildly popular and mainstream book/musical/movie/franchise thing.

2.5 - If fandoms crop up that don't quite fit elsewhere, a "general fiction" category might suffice. I'm not sure if PotO quite counts as fantasy, so maybe it could be the first member of that category.

3 - Make a really clear note that lets people know that these categories aren't actual divisions. Unless, like Sci-fi/Steampunk, they are. And that'll need a note, too.

Also... it occurs to me that there's a whole page for the divisions of the DMS apart from the Complete List. Is that going to get the same treatment vis-a-vis categories?

~Neshomeh

It's really a carapace. But most people assume a hat when they ask me about it, though eyebrows would make as much sense. {= )

~Neshomeh