To me, the PPC is a place full of nerds where I can be nerdy. More specifically, where having an anal-retentive knowledge of an obscure 80's TV show or an out-of-print novel is not only accepted, but celebrated.
That's what the PPC boils down to for me: a celebration of the fictions we've loved. I think its inherent humor revolves around the fact that we're writing about stories we love and enjoy, and we want others to get that same good feeling.
Maybe, if we go through with the "new image" plans, part of it can be focusing on the canon being restored to its former state at the end of the mission, and make that the climax more than the Sue-kill, or whatever? The PPC: Battling Badfic to Cure Canon.
(I guess that wasn't so brief, which is appropriate, because I'm a boxers guy.)
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I'm late to the discussion, so I will be brief. by
on 2010-07-22 16:01:00 UTC
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you know this anyway... by
on 2010-07-22 15:55:00 UTC
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...cos I live with you, but here we go anyway.
Name: Bridget
Gender: Female
Nationality: Yorkshire all the way, or English if I must
Fandoms: Narnia and ST:XI at the moment. Various others in the past
Hobbies: RuneScape, reading, rum, and crochet
Likes: Tea, people making me tea, cheesy bacon beans, Sims 2, Civ 4, books, slash
Dislikes: Going outside, a great variety of -isms, arrogance, het, abuse of English, overpriced beer
Other: I'm Brid Stokes on RuneScape, and I never deliberately try to offend people - take note in the Lounge as I am often drunk in there.
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Blight and exacerbation! by
on 2010-07-22 15:48:00 UTC
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Foulness and calamity! Not you again! EFF OFF!
gaaah, stupid trolls...
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Oh yeah... by
on 2010-07-22 15:45:00 UTC
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And while I don't like giving out my real name, I'll just tell you my first name is Julia and leave it at that.
Also, you can find me all around the web under various handles- on Fanfiction.net, I'm Gijinka Renamon, at DeviantArt, you can find me under the name PsychoDemonFox, on the Escapist I'm known as CrazyGirl17, and on TVTropes, I go by the handle TheOtakuNinja.
...Don't ask why I have different handles, I don't know myself.
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re:Inspired by the post below by
on 2010-07-22 15:38:00 UTC
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Looks fun, I'll give it a shot, and it'll give you folks a chance to know me:
Name: Opinioned Angel
Gender: Female
Nationality: American
Fandoms: MANY, like Digimon, Tales of Symphonia, Kingdom Hearts, Wicked, The Simpsons, Pirates of the Caribbean, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Danny Phantom, Redwall, Generator Rex, Ben 10, Red VS Blue, Power Rangers, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force Go…
Likes/Hobbies: Good fanfiction, doing my own thing, chocolate, anything Japanese related, anime/cartoons, manga/comic books, pretty much anything fantasy/sci-fi/supernatural-based, websurfing, reading, writing, drawing, watching TV, sleeping, listening to music, daydreaming.
Dislikes: Fan Dumb, Twilight, crazy fans, Mary Sues, unfair character bashing(especially when it's done just for a preferred pairing), child/animal abuse, tweenies, bad guys who get off without being punished, misogynists/sexists, injustice, the way kid TV stations are being run nowadays... basically, a lot of things tick me off, and I have a VERY short fuse.
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*SIGH* I'll go fetch the spork gun... (nm) by
on 2010-07-22 15:16:00 UTC
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Damn, I left things out. by
on 2010-07-22 14:07:00 UTC
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I also play Sims 2 and am addicted to Modthesims. Please ignore my awful typing in the last sentence.
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As for me... by
on 2010-07-22 14:05:00 UTC
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Yep, it's the humor. but it says something about me that I didn't notice the slip towards "See Sue, Chase Sue, Kill Sue". As for my actions during the accusation episode, the less said about them, the better.
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This idea is a good one! by
on 2010-07-22 14:05:00 UTC
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I'm gonna copy your format, though. Because of the unimaginative.
Name: Silikat, or Laura if you want the real one.
Gender: Female
Nationality: Very English
Fandoms: Doctor Who, Torchwood, Cats, Harry Potter, Wicked, Les Miserables, Mario games, and various Disney things I can neither keep track of or give up on.
Hobbies: Reading and writing (obviously), gaming, watching DVDs so many times I can recite them, occasionaly RuneScaping, TvTropes lurking and watching YouTube videos.
Likes: Bacon, cheese, my iPod, musicals, reading, quoting Harry Potter/Doctor Who/the Simpsons on random occasions, eating.
Dislikes: Hyperactive fangirls, looking fat, anything OOC without a good reason, TvTropes ruining my life, being younger than almost everyone I know.
Other: Online, I'm either Silikat or haynesy2008 (except on RuneScape, where I'm Witchi L) My LJ is silikat_lj, if anyone cares. If any Cats, Doctor WHo or Torchwood fans want to check out my FF.net account, that's Silikat too.
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Re: Inspired by the post below by
on 2010-07-22 13:56:00 UTC
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Name: raffitz (My real name is Rafael)
Gender: Male
Nationality: Portuguese
Fandoms: Doctor Who, Stargate (All of them), Harry Potter, Bleach, Artemis Fowl, Chronicles of the Emerged World, Inheritance cycle, Star Trek (from The Motion Picture to XI, and from TNG to DS9), ...
Hobbies: Reading (both original and fan fiction), writing fanfics, watching TV series, playing The Sims 2, The Sims 3, Garry's Mod, watching vlogs on Youtube.
Likes: Chocolate, chips, sarcasm, Vlogbrothers, nerimon, italktosnakes.
Dislikes: bad sarcasm, fish, peas.
Other: My twitter username is raffitz, my Youtube username is raffitz and my Dailybooth username is raffitz (Yay for variety).
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Noob words. by
on 2010-07-22 13:23:00 UTC
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I haven't been here long. At all, really-- but even before I came here I was doing badfic parody.
And now a friend and I have an epic spin-off fanfic in the works with PPC themes in it. It's over 50 pages and in progress, and is likely to span over novel-length. And we have sequels in mind, too. Whether or not it will ever be posted, remains to be seen.
I love exploring fandom. I love exploring what people think and get out of their favorite modern-day mythologies. I love exploring mindsets that can go into interpreting canon. I came here because really, that's what this is about-- one, more mature mindset, poking a bit of fun at a less sophisticated (and kind of embarassing) mindset from the past and showing how goofy it is.
I know so many people who have 'gotten over' the Mary Sue thing, or as extension, the entire badfic thing. It's one mindset. It's not right, but then again, neither is the mindset of an assassin.
But like those goofy cubical-top-mounted Nerf dart turrets, or packing peanut catapults set up in office buildings worldwide, it's a goofy and unthreatening sort of war I personally fight.
So I don't feel bad for hanging out here yet. Or writing long goodfic (I hope!) about an Urple Nexus infesting all of Assassin's Creed.
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The PPC by
on 2010-07-22 13:13:00 UTC
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Well, I'm a newbie here, and I've already come across some stories that are exactly that (See Sue, Chase Sue, Kill Sue).
I intend to write a spin-off as soon as I can, and I've been researching everything I can (from PPC history - Reorganisation and such - to lots of other things).
One of the principles that I think is fundamental for the organisation, regardless of department or division, is the Rule of Funny. If people don't follow it, let them be, but don't give up because of it. I'm not censoring you for taking a break, but really, if you don't like what you're reading because it's not funny enough, close the tab (if your browser has tabs. If it hasn't, I suggest you upgrade it). I've done it half a dozen times.
But if you leave, then you'll be reducing the output of good (funny) stories, and you'll be contributing for the "Sue-slayer" reputation.
This may seem a bit like emotional chantage, and that's exactly what it is (joking).
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Inspired by the post below by
on 2010-07-22 12:54:00 UTC
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A lot of PPCers are here because they love the community that the PPC provides. But it's hard to keep track of who's who sometimes, especially when there are floods of newbies. On the other hand, there are Oldbies who are so respected that it feels like it is assumed that everything about them is Common Knowledge and so no one bothers or dares to ask questions about them.
So here's your chance to put some information about yourself out there. Fandoms, hobbies, likes and dislikes, etc. Gender, too, because the fandom assumption that everyone is female can easily be wrong.
Name: Ansela, Ansela Jonla
Gender: Female
Nationality: British
Fandoms: Bleach (currently active), Harry Potter (inactive), Stargate SG-1/Atlantis (inactive), Doctor Who/Torchwood, Sharpe (*drools*), Naruto (inactive), LotR, FMA, Ouran, Code Geass, Gundam Wing/00, Kyou Kara Maou, Narnia, Star Trek XI.
Hobbies: Runescape, jigsaws, reading, Halo (damnit, when is 3 coming out on PC?!), Heroes of Might and Magic, fanfic (reading and writing), chatting to friends
Likes: good slash, IC non/dub-con fics, good writing, plot, friendly people, chocolate, bacon, listening to music
Dislikes: bad writing, OOCness, coffee and tea, overly decaffeinated 'energy drinks', my idiotic younger brother, filling in forms, having to get my parents to fill in forms, chatspeak, people who think spelling and grammar is optional on the internet
Other: My LJ username is ansela_jonla. My RS name is AnselaJonla. I hope more of you do this. Copying my format is not compulsory. Do it however you like.
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De-lurking for a few moments by
on 2010-07-22 12:28:00 UTC
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Recently I've been lurking for similar reasons, although I was already mostly invisible by the time the whole bullying thing cropped up.
I don't think we're bullies. If we went after the authors then that label might be justified, but such actions would be condemned by the community as a whole, or at least so I would hope.
I'm sorry for not speaking up about that idiotic remark about mpreg, but I didn't feel that I had the right to speak up. I've been barely here for so long, that I feel that there's no one who'd listen if I did try and engage someone over a comment about a genre that is one of the most disliked (and usually badly done) in fanfiction.
What attracted me to the PPC, like many other people, is the humour. I wandered in through OFUM, and I enjoyed the way a group of talented writers were able to turn Mary Sue fics into something funny and worth reading. And, despite the way the people here on the Board mocked bad fanfiction, they also loved good fanfic. This was somewhere where I could just be a fan, and learn something about becoming a better writer in the process.
But then we started getting floods of Tropers with the wrong ideas about the PPC. Emergencies and crises became commonplace. Everything became SRS BZNS for a while. I faded into the background because I wanted no part of that. Even when the law was laid down, I continued to lurk. I was content on the fringes, only commented on rare occasions.
And then I realised that all the newbies that were flooding in were getting Permission and starting their own spinoffs. I saw all these new writers adding to PPC canon and contributing to the whole, while I get writer's block within about two sentences every time I try and write a mission. I felt like a failure, so I stayed quiet still.
I won't lie and say I read every spinoff. Not everyone's writing style appeals to me. I will say, though, that DMS/Sue-killing missions are my least favourite type. They've become formulaic, as you've summed up with your statement of "See Sue. Chase Sue. Kill Sue." Would I read Sue-killing missions if they weren't so formulaic? Probably.
If I'm a lurker, why am I still here? Because of friends. There are some wonderful people in this community, and I'd feel bad if I left completely. Despite everything, this is a good community and, if we make a little effort, it'll stay that way for a long time yet, I hope.
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Ah, so THAT'S where it was from! by
on 2010-07-22 11:58:00 UTC
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I seriously got very, very bewildered by the idea of a plant eating a doughnut. Thanks!
Also, word on the typos thing. I have to debate whether or not to take them out of my badfics these days. :P
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Agreed, it can be tricky. by
on 2010-07-22 11:55:00 UTC
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And yes, it can be difficult to write about sex and spot mistakes if we've never had any ourselves, but I like to think I've picked up a fair bit about the do's and don't's from my time here so far. Trojie and Pads have definitely been responsible for a large part of that, mostly because they answer any queries I've raised with them quite frankly.
(Also, the urple penis comment made me giggle rather more than it should have done. The PPC's done a lot to lodge my mind firmly into the gutter. I find things like that squick me out a lot less than they did when I joined.)
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I'm gonna have to say hell yeah to this. by
on 2010-07-22 11:42:00 UTC
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The PPC's changed my life for the better. It introduced me to a world where good writing was valued above all else. That was the first thing that I picked up when I wandered into the place - "We Like Good Writing And Laugh At Bad" - and, believe it or not, it actually shifted my entire career focus. I'm studying to become a proofreader now because the PPC reintroduced me to my lifelong love affair with the English language.
I've met people I class amongst my best friends through the community here, both in real life and online with plans to make it to real life meetings. We've always tried so hard to be welcoming to new people; I still have fond memories of my arrival back in April 2008, when everyone was planning the Mary Sue Invasion, and I was flailing and going "Huh? What? Someone please explain what's going on?" until several very kind people pointed me in the direction of explanations. I felt nervous at first, but that very quickly disappeared under the barrage of "Hey, welcome, join in!"
I'm not as frequent a poster here as I used to be, but the good thing about this place is that it doesn't matter. At all. We just enjoy each others' company whenever we get it. I know this sounds cheesy, but the PPC's a great big bad-writing-mocking family, and we care about each other. And I wouldn't have stuck around so long if we didn't.
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Change 'care' to know. (nm) by
on 2010-07-22 10:39:00 UTC
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I am, as I have ever been... by
on 2010-07-22 08:01:00 UTC
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brandywinebaby89, who really has no idea what the heck she's doing, but by golly she's gonna do it!
It's really disturbing how many typos happen when you stop caring. O.o My unedited typing isn't actually THAT bad, but it's close.
Incidentally, the donut-eating plant appears in the third section of <a href="http://plotprotectors.tripod.com/JAAKSONS/ch3ficpsych.html">this chapter of the JAAKSONS, which is near and dear to my heart. {= )
~Neshomeh
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For me... by
on 2010-07-22 07:44:00 UTC
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...the PPC is about exposing badfic, but it's also about talking to a fun group of people who like goodfic, being able to help my own writing by talking to them and knowing they won't flame you or be all "You're crap, get out." It's about a community of people who like good writing and having fun.
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I tried it out on the Wiki sandbox--see what you think? by
on 2010-07-22 06:57:00 UTC
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Sandbox
So the divisions are grouped up now, but there's no change to the DMS's organization.
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Um. Community? by
on 2010-07-22 06:42:00 UTC
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It's a whole lot of things, honestly. Awesome people, writing that's entertaining -- without a whole lot of serious, angst, or drama, a shared love of good writing and the light-hearted mocking of bad writing. (And by bad writing, I do mean just bad writing, not writing with distasteful subject matter. YKINMK, after all.)
I'm not very vocal on the Board, though I do hang around the IRC a lot, and I've made good friends here. The shared universe we all play in is delightfully wacky and enormously hilarious, and... my train of thought left me standing at the station.
Point is, at least for me, the PPC isn't just see sue -- chase sue -- kill sue. It's a whole bunch of other awesome things with a bit of cathartic suekilling thrown in.
There's my two cents, for posterity and whatnot. I'll follow what this thread brings up with interest.
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To begin with -- by
on 2010-07-22 06:40:00 UTC
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We'd just like to say we're glad you guys aren't gone gone. Neshomeh in particular misses you guys, and is really sorry you felt unwelcome, and wants you back as soon as you want to be back.
We agree with what Calista said about many people being uncomfortable with slash/mpreg sorts of fics, and that's probably a partial explanation for why so few people go that direction with their agents. It actually obeys the "your kink is not my kink" rule. Also, it is really easy to spot a bad OC; other things aren't always so clear.
On the other hand, we also agree that our image outside of the community needs some serious, serious attention. It's true, places like TVTropes and whatnot tend to focus exclusively on the Sue-slaying--probably because it's a common, well-known concept and they don't bother to investigate us any deeper. That's why we had such an issue with the So Sue Me people, too. They lumped us in with everyone else without stopping to find out what really goes on over here, and because that's all they were concerned about, that's the only way we could talk to them. So, for that reason, we're all for getting the real story out there as much as possible. There are some Tropers around here who can at least get on it over there.
It's not that we don't love you guys and your writing. We do. You contribute significantly to the diversity of this place, which is why we want you back. It's not that we don't support Bad Slashers and Disentanglers and everything else. It's just that Sues are so gosh-darn easy to go after. It's probably related to the fact that they're so gosh-darn easy to write, and write badly, in the first place.
However (again), we agree with Sedri that lots of Sue-missions focus too much on getting to the kill and less on the poking the bad writing and hilarious effects thereof. In Barid's words, the kill should be a punctuation mark in the sentence of the overall mission, and we're both attempting to make it so in our work.
Incidentally, Neshomeh is on a hunt for crossovers in her fandoms that are bad enough to PPC that don't also contain a Sue or a character replacement. Harder to find than you might expect.
We would also like to mention FicPsych, which we've noticed has been focusing more and more on agents lately. Neshomeh didn't mean to set a trend when she wrote Ilraen's story; it was meant to be a fairly unique occurance. We'd like to see someone write about the nurses dealing with canons. Neshomeh has plans for one of these.
As for what the PPC is for us...
For Barid, the PPC is jokes, gags, and funny. He tries to bring the funny in his writing. He is not interested in writing, or reading, agents one-upping the other guys with their assassinations. His agents are in the All-Purpose Department for a reason. He has plans to deal with badfic in the Warcraft continuum that do not deal with Sues.
For Neshomeh, the PPC has always been about writing practice, learning to write humor, sharing interests in books, crazy rambling discussions, and FUN. She has a history of sharply curtailing people who try to make the PPC into SRS BSNS, and she will continue to do so.
~Neshomeh (who isn't sure how coherent this post is, but hopes it helps) and Barid (who recently had quite a lot of fun reading Agents Trojie and Pads' escapades during the gender-bender incident).