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Okay, so we have an animated canon. In it, human biology does not work exactly the same way as it does in real life. For example, brain damage causes one's hair to turn blue, and the blue-haired guy's children inherited it even though it wasn't genetic; nobody thinks green skin is worthy of any sort of comment; the best way to bring someone out of a coma is to hit them with a car; and it's possible to survive drinking several bottles of rum per day for months on end. However, the characters do seem to react to consumption of various substances in a fairly similar way to normal humans, though to a far lesser extent; the aforementioned several-bottles-of-rum-per-day gets the drinker incredibly drunk but has yet to kill him, and another character is perpetually stoned on amounts of pain medication which also would probably kill a real human.

There is a fic in this fandom which, while pretty bad in other ways, featured a rescue scene which left me WTFing. See, the Sue suffers a gunshot wound. So, to save her, our heroes inject deadly nightshade into her. And it works. Instantly. To the point that the wound instantly closes up, she wakes from unconsciousness and is immediately able to sit up and talk.

Now, by normal standards, this fails. However, I'm not sure whether the aforementioned canonical oddities would affect the severity of the charge. They have yet to be able to do this in canon, and as I said, I'm pretty sure they react to substances in something resembling a logical way ("logical" by cartoon standards, but still, you can at least usually see where they got the idea). Anyone have any thoughts?

Also, I'm transferring my missions and MSTings off my personal website onto my new Dreamwidth blog: http://rc88.dreamwidth.org. It'll take me a while to get everything coded up and posted, but a couple things are up already. Missions won't be going down from my site for a while, but I thought I should tell people now.

I follow the Marysues community over at LJ (a great source for missions, if I do say so myself), and came across this post. Out of morbid curiosity, I went over to ff.net and looked at the reviews for this... interesting 'fic. They're quite amusing, though most are rather vitriolic.

Tl;dr: Question: Is it a troll ala My Immortal, or just something that really needs to burn?

Screwtape's New Secretary thebrokencradle (NSFW)
Toadpipe, Screwtape's secretary, comes to an unfortunate end. Screwtape is more than pleased with his new Secretary, who hails from the Second Circle of Hell. A series of encounters between Screwtape and Snaremouth.
Screwtape Letters - Rated: M - English - Supernatural - Chapters: 1 - Words: 1,641 - Published: 5-22-10 - Complete

My comment: My brain just divided by zero.

It's the main reason I don't read slash. Well, also because slash has a tendency to get graphic, and that just squicks me out. But it's one of the big reasons.

Romance is hard. A lot of people don't think it is, but romance is very, very hard to write in a plausible way. At least for me it is. Many of the people in the Pit think they can write romance, when they really can't and should never even be allowed near someone else's canon. But then again, that's what we're here for...

My personal pet peeve is when a young protagonist is arbitrarily paired with his/her father figure/mentor. Say, Luke Skywalker/Obi-wan Kenobi, or--I actually found a fic with this pairing the other day--Mr. Miyagi/Daniel. Eurgh. Not only is it squicky for age reasons, it destroys a perfectly good nonromantic relationship.

But even if a character doesn't have a love interest in canon, that doesn't mean they don't want romance ever. Life isn't divided into "asexual" and "sex-crazed," and although yeah, you can't make someone just ditch their canonical passion, that doesn't preclude the possibility of romance. The first example that comes to mind is Lightning from FFXIII, who has no real love interest and didn't have much of a life outside her military career, but defrosts over the story and could conceivably end up with somebody. On the other hand, if it's someone who can't feel or can't love, like Peter Pan, I am totally with you.

that Krisprolls turns 73 today. One more thing to party about.

Bad Slash usually includes Bad Het, as I remember, since they're very similar.

Well, I'm going to be in Improbable AU, so if you're in, say, Mary Sues, an AU badfic with a Mary Sue in it would be better done by collaboration.

Hmm... Surely it can't be any more dangerous than the other questionable pets I've been given. Certainly seems like it'll be the most useful.

Maybe that's it, since I didn't read the comic and all, but I hear it's a good comic so I'll have to check it out.

Ooh, chocolate. Want. *Omnomnom*

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I don't think there's a more specific charge than OOCness, but OOCness alone can qualify something as a badfic, so I suppose that's an answer to your question.

In terms of missions, perhaps one of your agents could make a specific point of complaining about or taking missions that have this particular flaw (or, more likely, the Flowers send said agent on such missions just because it's sure to drive them mad)?

it's either bad slash or bad het, depending on who the other half of the badfic is.

Would be more interesting if the OC fancied the character and found her attempts of woowing him twarded by desinterest. But then the OC wouldn't be a Sue.

In some of my fandoms, established asexuals are always forced into romance, just because the Suethor fancies the actor, or thinks it would be 'really cute' if two characters got together. That does make it badfic in my opinion, because they are out of character - we have the Department of Bad Slash dealing with people turning heterosexual characters homosexual (amongst other things)so maybe that should be included in there?

It's kind of a pain to update after every request, especially now that so many new people are coming in.

And I think it is. It seems to be a trait of badfic writers to think that asexuality doesn't exist, and it's just the matter of finding the "right" person. (Or they've never heard of it, which amounts to the same thing.) As a slash writer myself, I can't be too critical, as my writing tends to take assumed heterosexual male characters and pair them with other assumed heterosexual male characters, but I do try to make note of that and explore at least a little why they're in danger of changing their assumed orientations.

Anyway, to stop rambling, I think it is a charge and a common trait. It's also lazy. Puppy-love is wonderfully cute when it's well done, but it's Gods' awfully hard to do well. Mithros knows I've tried...

--anamia

OK, I've been encountering this issue somewhat often lately: Characters who are not, in canon, capable of falling in love for some reason or other, are wedged sideways and without explanation into romantic relationships.

For example: Peter Pan falls in love, without growing up and without any explanation other than that the Mary Sue is ridiculously beautiful and can out-fight the Villain of the Day. Sorry, but it's been tried with both Tinkerbell and Wendy, and neither one managed it... Similarly, I've seen very young children forced into romance that's got more in common with cheap romance novels than with cute puppy love.

Other examples include teen and adult characters who are canonically established not to have a sex drive, and are put into romantic relationships with little or no explanation as to why they're suddenly interested. It's especially irritating if they're "married" to something else, like their job for example, and they just randomly ditch their former passion for their love interest.

I'm asking about whether this is a badfic trait, because I'm a bit biased--I'm asexual and very aware of the fact that it is quite possible to be happily uninvolved in romance, and I get more than a little annoyed when the few examples of such characters have that unique trait destroyed exclusively because the author wants the character to be involved in a romance, with little or no explanation given for why the character is suddenly interested in getting it on with either Mary Sue or whoever the author's decided to slash them with today...

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There is a surprising quantity of goodfic in the movie section and the book section. A lot of times I will see a summary that anywhere else on the pit is guaranteed to be a poorly written Sue with a terrible plot, and even if it turns out to not be an idea I care too much about, the writing is in actual English, the plot holds water--overall if not goodfic then at least non-PPCable fic.

I don't really understand it. Sure, the characters involved are much smarter than average, but that hasn't stopped people from writing badly in Bones and House. The books are old enough to maybe earn a miss from a lot of fanbrats, but the movie had two very fine looking men, who gave off enough slashy vibes to set any fangirl to drooling, and even there the overall quality of the writing is high. Of course there are a few that are badly done, but the proportion is almost reversed from most fandoms.

It really has gotten my curiosity up about how this fandom has managed to attract a more highly skilled group of writers.

Have an eyass (that's a baby hawk). Treat her well, feed her on Generic Meat and mice. And Sues. She will help you kill them if she likes you. If she does not like you, she will eat your face, but that's what you get for dealing with predators.

Perish the thought! Beside transfer options (as Jay and Acacia do in the original series), there's an entire Freelance Division of the Mary-Sue Department in which agents like mine take on 'Sues from all sorts of fandoms. There's also the Department of Floaters, which take many different mission types. You're not restricted to one fandom. :)

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