And I think it is. It seems to be a trait of badfic writers to think that asexuality doesn't exist, and it's just the matter of finding the "right" person. (Or they've never heard of it, which amounts to the same thing.) As a slash writer myself, I can't be too critical, as my writing tends to take assumed heterosexual male characters and pair them with other assumed heterosexual male characters, but I do try to make note of that and explore at least a little why they're in danger of changing their assumed orientations.
Anyway, to stop rambling, I think it is a charge and a common trait. It's also lazy. Puppy-love is wonderfully cute when it's well done, but it's Gods' awfully hard to do well. Mithros knows I've tried...
--anamia
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As a fellow asexual, I feel your pain. by
on 2010-06-17 08:20:00 UTC
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Does this make it badfic? by
on 2010-06-17 07:59:00 UTC
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OK, I've been encountering this issue somewhat often lately: Characters who are not, in canon, capable of falling in love for some reason or other, are wedged sideways and without explanation into romantic relationships.
For example: Peter Pan falls in love, without growing up and without any explanation other than that the Mary Sue is ridiculously beautiful and can out-fight the Villain of the Day. Sorry, but it's been tried with both Tinkerbell and Wendy, and neither one managed it... Similarly, I've seen very young children forced into romance that's got more in common with cheap romance novels than with cute puppy love.
Other examples include teen and adult characters who are canonically established not to have a sex drive, and are put into romantic relationships with little or no explanation as to why they're suddenly interested. It's especially irritating if they're "married" to something else, like their job for example, and they just randomly ditch their former passion for their love interest.
I'm asking about whether this is a badfic trait, because I'm a bit biased--I'm asexual and very aware of the fact that it is quite possible to be happily uninvolved in romance, and I get more than a little annoyed when the few examples of such characters have that unique trait destroyed exclusively because the author wants the character to be involved in a romance, with little or no explanation given for why the character is suddenly interested in getting it on with either Mary Sue or whoever the author's decided to slash them with today...
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You're welcome by
on 2010-06-17 06:51:00 UTC
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There is a surprising quantity of goodfic in the movie section and the book section. A lot of times I will see a summary that anywhere else on the pit is guaranteed to be a poorly written Sue with a terrible plot, and even if it turns out to not be an idea I care too much about, the writing is in actual English, the plot holds water--overall if not goodfic then at least non-PPCable fic.
I don't really understand it. Sure, the characters involved are much smarter than average, but that hasn't stopped people from writing badly in Bones and House. The books are old enough to maybe earn a miss from a lot of fanbrats, but the movie had two very fine looking men, who gave off enough slashy vibes to set any fangirl to drooling, and even there the overall quality of the writing is high. Of course there are a few that are badly done, but the proportion is almost reversed from most fandoms.
It really has gotten my curiosity up about how this fandom has managed to attract a more highly skilled group of writers.
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Why hello. by
on 2010-06-17 04:42:00 UTC
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Have an eyass (that's a baby hawk). Treat her well, feed her on Generic Meat and mice. And Sues. She will help you kill them if she likes you. If she does not like you, she will eat your face, but that's what you get for dealing with predators.
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Oh, you don't have to stick to one fandom. by
on 2010-06-17 03:14:00 UTC
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Perish the thought! Beside transfer options (as Jay and Acacia do in the original series), there's an entire Freelance Division of the Mary-Sue Department in which agents like mine take on 'Sues from all sorts of fandoms. There's also the Department of Floaters, which take many different mission types. You're not restricted to one fandom. :)
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Re: Good job! by
on 2010-06-17 01:38:00 UTC
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Thanks!
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Thanks for helping (nm) by
on 2010-06-17 01:33:00 UTC
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Hi thar, new friend! by
on 2010-06-17 01:32:00 UTC
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Welcome to the PPC, and to the Board!
Help yourself to a venomous arthropod! You may...not...need gloves to handle it...
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Re: Newbie too by
on 2010-06-17 00:51:00 UTC
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...Why did I have to notice that typo after I'd posted this? -_-'
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Re: Newbie too by
on 2010-06-17 00:50:00 UTC
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*Slips the lighter into a pocket* I just know I'll need that at some point - ooh, a potential collaborator already? Well, I'll certainly keep you in mind if I stumble across any SW badfic which is so unforgiveably bad that two Agents just aren't enough... But by the Grey Lady and her Holy Hat, let's pray that never happens. <_>
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Re: Newbie too by
on 2010-06-17 00:50:00 UTC
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*Slips the lighter into a pocket* I just know I'll need that at some point - ooh, a potential collaborator already? Well, I'll certainly keep you in mind if I stumble across any SW badfic which is so unforgiveably bad that two Agents just aren't enough... But by the Grey Lady and her Holy Hat, let's prey that never happens. <_>
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Re: Have a Bengal Tiger! by
on 2010-06-17 00:43:00 UTC
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Generic Meat, eh? Should be plenty of that around Azeroth if I ever take on a WoW mission. I never used the lootable meats anyway...
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Newbie too by
on 2010-06-17 00:39:00 UTC
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Or not so much, considering how many people I've greeted by now. I'm also waiting for the first month to be up and Real Life to become a bit more sane. Which won't happen in a month, but I'll decide how insane it is when the time comes.
Hey, I also found them on TV tropes! And I'm a Star Wars fan. At least, that's what I'm going to PPC. If your agents do it too, we could have them run into each other sometimes.
So have a - I almost gave you a flamethrower, but those don't seem well-received here. Have a lighter so when you meet something bad, you can Kill It With Fire. And some chocolate, because Everything's Better With Chocolate.
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Have a Bengal Tiger! by
on 2010-06-17 00:20:00 UTC
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Feed it only Generic Meat.
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I liked Wanted. by
on 2010-06-17 00:17:00 UTC
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But I didn't read the comic (it wasn't available on my bookstore). That said, I can also see why others woudn't like it.
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Re: Welcome Aboard! by
on 2010-06-17 00:01:00 UTC
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*Noms a cookie* I remember reading a passing mention of the FPD execution. I need to track it down some time...
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Welcome Aboard! by
on 2010-06-16 23:42:00 UTC
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Hello! I hereby give you the standard Frying Pan of DOOMTM, and Agent Lee sends her regards and a batch of freshly baked cookies. Ian, her partner, has sent along a small cross-stitched replica of the DMS flashpatch and his warmest welcomes.
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Re: Welcome! Have a flashlight! by
on 2010-06-16 23:35:00 UTC
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Well, so long as it isn't speshul. Then I'd have to smash it in some unnecessarily complex and convoluted manner for the sake of putting it to an interesting end.
...Fortunately, that isn't the case, so thanks very much. Might prove useful once I actually get around to writing my first mission. I've got a whole month, at the least, to decide on my chosen fandom.
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Re: Welcome! by
on 2010-06-16 23:31:00 UTC
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Funny it certainly is. I've just gotten into Chapter 7, but I must admit the repetition of Rivendell is starting to grate on me a little...
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Welcome! Have a flashlight! by
on 2010-06-16 23:30:00 UTC
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It's a SPECIAL flashlight. Not sure why, but it says so. Trust the talking flashlight ;p
Nice to meet you. :)