If I could get an artist to help out, maybe. :)
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Hopefully I did a good job as a beta reader. by
on 2010-06-03 19:03:00 UTC
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As I mentioned, good work! Excellent mission, and awesome kill method. I imagine the Karma Charger got to that sue.
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Greetings! by
on 2010-06-03 18:43:00 UTC
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Please enjoy this silk headband as a welcoming gift.
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Hm... by
on 2010-06-03 18:28:00 UTC
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While I'm not a PG, I think you've got great agents there, and the they seem fun from the sample.
Personally, while I do agree in general general basis in regards to the whole 'semi-moratorium on new departments', I don't think the idea of a bad songfic department is a bad one, and could be interesting; it's just a matter of what others think.
That said, I do think that as a 'badfic' type there are enough out there that it could be relevant (as much as anything here is) and a possible department on its own, with no need to be put under Floaters or be an aspect of the A/V Division.
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A very interesting subject... by
on 2010-06-03 18:25:00 UTC
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In my opinion, alignment is very dependent on one's perspective. Some people may think they're doing good, but are actually causing more harm, and likewise an "evil" character might actually be doing more good than bad. It all depends on how you see yourself, and how others see you, as well as your actions, which are even more important. If you end up killing a bunch of (insert sentient species here), of course they're going to think you're evil, you just slaughtered them! Likewise, if you help them out instead, they're going to like you more and percieve you as "good".
That's my two (insert fictional currency here) on the thought.
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A/V's part of DoSAT, right? by
on 2010-06-03 18:20:00 UTC
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Do DoSAT agents have permission to kill badfic? It seems like the collecting of the badfic would be a different department from the killing of it. Kind of like the difference between DMS and DMSE&R.
I kind of do like the idea of a whole new department, especially if there's a newly promoted Flower to go with it. Earlier, in the discussion about Medical, there was talk of the potential comedy of that situation, and I can see it being played out well here.
Interesting thought: if you don't want to create a new department, songfics could go into DIC. After all, they are taking two different canons and mashing them together, often very badly. I don't know if songs lacking music videos are technically their own canon, but coping with songfics could involve sending the canons back to their own world and making certain the lyrics aren't mangled, etc.
I also think that either just A/V or DoSAT proper might want to find a way to modify glopsnerch to work against songfics. From what I've read, they're deafening.
Oh, and by the way, I do like your introductory piece, Italian for Grandma. The bit about Ken being from a comic book background made me laugh. Good luck getting Permission!
--anamia
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First Poke! by
on 2010-06-03 18:19:00 UTC
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Hallo!
Welcome to the board. ^^
There's no problem with taking your time to get into the PPC before you dive head first in asking for permission and stuff; generally, we love it when you wait beyond the initial suggested month to get used to everything and everyone here.
If you haven't seen it yet, we have a wiki here . You might be interested in the pages under the "PPC Intro Pages" section, such as the Guide to the PPC, and the FAQ: For Newbies which will answer a lot of your questions. ^^
We've also got a chatroom here which you are welcome to join if you're interested in chatting with a few of us in moderately almost real time. (This is an open invite to anyone else interested, as well).
All in all, again, welcome, hope you enjoy your time here, and try to not spam the board with multiple posts if there's stuff you're wondering about.
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Greetings! by
on 2010-06-03 18:18:00 UTC
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I'm another person who's kinda here to improve their writing ability, and I like making characters, too.
Aside from that, not much for me to say.
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Welcome. Here's a tall ship. by
on 2010-06-03 18:15:00 UTC
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Fair winds!
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Hi! by
on 2010-06-03 18:05:00 UTC
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I'm a fanfiction writer named Elemarth. I like making original characters and avoiding canon characters because it's hard to keep to canon, especially in Star Wars, where I don't really know much EU canon (and think 3/4 of it is ridiculous). I read Star Wars, Young Wizards, and Lord of the Rings fanfics and have written at least one story for each and one crossover with all three and Harry Potter. It's not terrible, either, though you would protest at its lack of canon (especially for HP). Romance is not a major thing in my stories, either, so I escape typical badfic that way.
I am a history student in college. I intend to be a high school teacher and an author (though I'm not taking creative writing classes). I've been writing seriously since I was twelve and wrote my first fanfiction (the crossover) when I was fourteen, though I had been making up (usually Mary Sue) original characters since I was... maybe five. Definitely six, when I watched The Lion King. I love creating characters and worlds but am not very good at forming plots yet. I loathe bad grammar speling,
paragraph breaks, and so forth......
I also like to write long posts. ^_^
I am interested in Star Wars Improbable AU with maybe some Young Wizards on the side (the stories there are generally brief and not really worth PPCing). Lord of the Rings has enough agents already. Of course, I have to get time to write fanfiction again, so it might be two or three months before I do anything (I'm desperately trying to finish an original fiction series). I do have agent ideas, though.
Questions:
Who has read the Star Wars OFU? It's been taken down. I'm curious what was in it and who the mini-Rancors were. I want to claim a mini-Rancor called Anikin because that's the only SW mispelling I distinctly remember having done myself... multiple times.
Also, Improbable AUs don't have to include original characters, do they? Because I'm pretty sure most in the SW fandom don't, but they still need PPCing.
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I wonder... (and will need other opinions) by
on 2010-06-03 17:51:00 UTC
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I'm not 100% sure about this, but maybe it would work for you to pick up the A/V Division where Adam and Frenchie left off. Since A/V is the home of the Cryptomusic Archives, and their directive is to collect audio and video footage from throughout the PPC-surveyed multiverse, the songfic thing might fit in there. That would eliminate the need for the fic in question to be killable, just as long as it's strange and interesting.
Thoughts?
~Neshomeh
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A character is not defined by his alignment. by
on 2010-06-03 17:40:00 UTC
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An alignment is simply a label you can put onto a character after you have created him and evaluated him. It does not determine his behavior; his personality determines his behavior. It can change as the character changes. And its only purpose, other than being shorthand for describing a character's code of ethics (or lack thereof), is to determine how spells affect him, which afterlife he goes to, and whether or not he shows up on the Detect Alignment radar.
This has been a public service message from the Committee for the Prevention of D&D Cliches. Thank you for your time.
:P
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Agreed. by
on 2010-06-03 17:39:00 UTC
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Since the stated goals of the PPC as an organization are to preserve the status quo in a specific way by fairly specific means, that makes it Lawful Neutral.
Individual agents, on the other hand, are driven by their own unique motives. My Agent Supernumerary may be one of the few whose alignment is the same as the organization, since I'd hardly call him Evil, Good, or Chaotic. He's basically Doing What Needs Doing because It Needs To Be Done and Someone Has To Do It. His partner Ilraen, on the other hand, is definitely Good, since he wants to help people as much as possible. I don't think he's quite settled on the Law-Chaos scale yet, though. As he becomes a more independent person, we'll see.
Agent Derik is firmly Lawful Good. He truly believes he is eradicating a deadly parasite from the multiverse, protecting the lives of countless people. Agent Earwig is a kender, which makes him Chaotic by definition. Since he's basically along because he likes Derik and wants to be helpful (in addition to racking up the Frequent Flier Miles), I guess that makes him Chaotic Good.
Nurse Jenni tries very hard to be True Neutral, preserving the balance in any way necessary, but she has very strong Good tendencies. For instance, she has and will never kill anyone, even a Sue (though she doesn't mind letting it happen), and prefers to avoid negative physical contact of any kind at all.
Evil comes from acting without regard for others, so anyone who's in it just because they like killing things is probably Evil. Whether they're Lawful or Neutral (I agree that the dangerous Chaotic ones probably get kicked out pretty quickly) depends on whether they're doing it because they think they're serving a purpose or just themselves. To me, Evil is always selfish. That's why it's so easy for Good and Neutral to slip if they forget whose interests they're supposed to be serving.
~Neshomeh
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Very nice! by
on 2010-06-03 17:31:00 UTC
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I love Danny and Laura. They're so much fun together. And it was nice to see Laura's gentler side for once.
People who don't do research make me mad. Google is a lovely tool and more people should learn how to use it. -sigh-
--anamia
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Confirmation, that's all. (nm) by
on 2010-06-03 17:14:00 UTC
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Mission Up! by
on 2010-06-03 17:08:00 UTC
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Laura and Danny take a trip into the Left 4 Dead universe to stop a Survivor!Stu with no clue of how the real military works. Contains violence and bad language.
http://vgdivision.livejournal.com/1244.html
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Re: Division of Floaters, maybe? by
on 2010-06-03 16:23:00 UTC
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I actually had the same issue about two months back, when I was thinking about the idea. I put the question up to the Board, and Neshomeh told me that since a department of songfics would police a specific type of badfic, it could probably stand on its own. However, the Kryptonian hails from Floaters...I was thinking he could be the expert on multiple continuums, while Grace is the music whiz.
Yeah, he's run into that...it's why he doesn't tear doors of their hinges on a more regular basis. He gets in trouble a lot for taking off his disguise during missions, but so far he's been discreet enough only to to so when the Sue won't notice.
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No problemo. by
on 2010-06-03 15:20:00 UTC
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Already in the name link, but...
cronosonic2000@yahoo.com.au
I know, really old username. But eh.
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Re: I'll give it a try. by
on 2010-06-03 15:19:00 UTC
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Great! I'll just need your email address so I can send you the rough.
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I'll give it a try. by
on 2010-06-03 15:12:00 UTC
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It also helps that I very much am a fan of Left 4 Dead. Both games. This'll be entertaining.
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Beta reader by
on 2010-06-03 15:08:00 UTC
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My second Danny/Laura mission is finished. I just need a second pair of eyes to give it a look-through. Knowledge of the Left 4 Dead universe would be extremely helpful.
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Lawful Neutral, perhaps? by
on 2010-06-03 15:01:00 UTC
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Just from what I've seen so far, I'd qualify the PPC organization as more Lawful Neutral than anything else. While the agents themselves may do a lot of chaotic things from time to time, they are doing it in order to preserve literary order. Whether a Sue is good or evil doesn't matter into it; they are disturbing the stability of reality and so must be removed.
Individual agents are probably all over the spectrum, except maybe for Chaotic Evil. Maybe.
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Re: Warrior Women who aren't Sues? Share your favorites! by
on 2010-06-03 12:24:00 UTC
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Buffy Summers, Vampire Slayer.
Xena, Warrior Princess.
Samus, bounty hunter.
Susan Pevensie, formerly Queen of Narnia.
The PPC Agents on here.
I'd list more, but I've been typing some other stuff up. I really don't wanna get carpal tunnel syndrome.
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I agree with Laburnum. by
on 2010-06-03 11:32:00 UTC
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It depends who - the more bloodthirsty Agents would be different to the peaceful ones, for example.