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Nice one. I like how you always manage to find something constructive to say at the end.

http://chelonianmobile.deviantart.com/art/Water-Baby-161919417 D'awwwwwww, isn't it cute?

Sometimes it's hard to tell who wrote which agent. Regardless, if they're not around, and no one's been given responsibility for them (I've got a few agents who were given over to me), make sure you've got their backstory-as-written firmly understood and then go for it, unless someone can give a reason why not.

hS

New Mission in The A-Team fandom. Allison and Tasmin encounter a Sue that becomes the sole topic of everyone's conversation in A Little Loony Girl

Unfortunately, I have no pictures, and am horrible at drawing anything with any resemblance to a human. Imagine loose black casual clothes. No pockets. Flashpatch on at least the right shoulder. The rest can be up to you. In fact, I'll follow your design and say that yours is the original, if you are quick enough in writing it. It's going to take a while before I get to the point in my story where the new pattern comes in—don't look at any of my currently written stories for inspiration.

Thank you so much! School is ending soon, so I can really get on the mission horse!


Will do on the beta thing.

As far as I know, that's pretty standard procedure.

Your agents look like a ton of fun (I am thoroughly entertained by the idea of an ex-god), and they're well written.

One suggestion, though - a beta would not go amiss. there were multiple places where I think your wording was rather awkward, and a good beta would help.

I know I don't have permission just yet, but could I claim this now and wait to write it until I do have permission?

I'm a major Harley fan too...and I'm rather fond of the Harley/Bats pairing, when it's done well. Hence how I found this. Gad.

Thank you for your help.

On further reading, I've decided that I don't like this one as much as I thought it did. Harley!Sue's accent is applied so thick that it becomes difficult to read at times. The crowning moment of failure is this joke from Batman. FROM BATMAN.

"For once the Harley's riding me."

*cue head exploding from shock and rage*

First off, a minor note. This story appears to actually be from the DCAU!Batman continuum (the cartoon from the '90s) as indicated by a few off-hand references. It seems to be a tie-in to the events of the episode "Harley's Holiday," where Harley gives Batman a thank-you kiss at the very end.

After reading this, I'd say that while parts of it were enjoyable (I'm an incorrigible Harley Quinn fan) there were several issues that qualified it as badfic:

-- Batman is incredibly out of character. Letting one of his rogues into the Batcave, revealing his backstory if not his secret identity - not the actions we expect of the World's Greatest Detective. He's been turned into a lustful dope. Alfred even says as much in chapter 5: "I believe both your parents and I taught you to treat a lady better than that, sir. I do not believe that your actions were very becoming."

-- Technical issues. There are a few places where the tenses switch, especially on the first page. Also, 'growled' as an alternative word for 'said' appears more times than it should.

-- Harley is almost if not entirely (YMMV) a Replacement!Sue. The fic version has had a rotten life, but almost everyone mentioned in the story loves and respects her. While the actual Harley was sympathetic, she was still a psychopath. This one not so much.

-- The improbable biology of the lemon.

Given what you've said about what happens in the story, I'd certainly classify it as badfic.

I blame people for being so easily fooled by marketing.

1. What if they aren't around any more? Asking them would have been my top priority, but they are no longer around.
   3. That was a bit of a stupid question, wasn't it?
   
   Thanks for helping out =D

She is sort of like a human. About the same size, anyway, just furrier. So, yes, if you have a picture of something, that would be helpful, thanks.

1/ That depends on the agent. If the person who wrote that agent is still around, it's polite to ask them first. It's also worth making sure there's nothing that would clash with the agent's existing backstory (for instance, if you claimed your agent was recruited by Acacia 'in her third year as an assassin', you'd run up against the fact that Acy was only an assassin for about a year and a half).

2/ Agent Mmrrowl would like to say hello. :P On a more relevant note, a lot of agents don't wear uniform anyway. The classic drawing of Jay and Acacia shows them in jeans. Since the uniform gets disguised like everything else on missions, and since no one not in the PPC should be in HQ, the only real requirement seems to be the flashpatch.

3/ Ahahahaha.

3 actual answer/ It varies. Some agents have described fairly comprehensive training, some are just handed several canon books (and a copy of the Manual) and sent off to a Response Centre. Go with whatever makes the most narrative sense; the PPC has never claimed consistancy in its proceedures.

hS

Your agent is from the Cats continuum, right? Is (s)he somewhat humanlike? If so, I still have the patterns for a uniform designed with animal comfort right over...here...no...there...somewhere, anyway. Randall loves it (more than his last uniform). I'm sure that the PPC seamstresses would be modify it to fit your agent, if you want. It's nice and loose, and easy to slip out of if it gets to be too restraining.

If the author of the fanfic acknowledges the sequel, then consider the sequel canon. If the author does not acknowledge the sequel, then assume the sequel is non-canon.

...by being caught up in real life concerns. Silly me.

I found out about all this brouhaha today by reading a post on Geek Feminism that was much more concise and in the same vein as Mary Sue sporking = misogyny, bullying, and marginalization of women writers.

It's the last part that really bugs me. There is marginalization of women writers -- it is real, and needs to be addressed. Honest criticism of bad writing =/= not being able to get published in fantasy or sci-fi unless you take a male name (CJ Cherryh is who I'm referencing specifically). Female writers are still marginalized, especially in 'genre' writing.

But no, instead of addressing problems in the book-publishing industry, let's say that sporking is the real problem here.

Give me a break.

You know, I'm a feminist, and proud of it...I understand -- I really do -- that there is misogyny and abuse in telling people to grow a thicker skin when they're dealing with real marginalization. I deal with it every day. If I can't get published because I'm a woman and you tell me to grow a thicker skin, that is misogynistic. Telling me my writing is what's preventing me from getting published because my characters are unbelievable, or my setting sucks, or my dialogue isn't connected well enough (which is a real problem in my writing that I've been working on), is not misogyny. It is criticism.

(Now, if you specifically said my characters were unbelievable because most of them are women and strong and defy traditional gender roles, then yeah -- sexism right there. But that's not the same as saying "This passage is awkward, and your MFC seems a bit OOC." Not at all.)

Also, what I find very interesting is that it seems okay to criticize bad writers if they're male, or have a male OC that warps the canon. How is it feminist to want to give women special treatment because they can't handle criticism?

There are not enough headdesks in the WORLD for this.

A while back I asked about unofficial sequels to valid continua, asking if they were to be considered when going on missions. The consensus seemed to be that while the original is canon to the sequel, the sequel is not canon to the original, in some sort of bizarre 'half-and-half' continuum that I guess makes sense.

I'm now asking about what I like to call 'official' unofficial sequels. These are sequels that are written by the author or otherwise approved as being in the same canon by them, but don't really mesh well with the original work. Examples include Dragon Ball GT and Phantom of the Opera: Love Never Dies.

How should these be considered when dealing with badfic for the original, if at all?

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4918035/1/IHateEverythingAboutYou

The story is in the Comics!Batman continuum, pairing Batman with Harley Quinn. It left a sour taste in my mouth, but I thought I'd ask just in case my viewpoint is a little too conservative.

Am I overreacting to the...eh...elaborate lemon in the sixth chapter when I say that the circumstances of this fic are contrived? That the Joker hasn't taken any other love interests for the simple fact that no one else will tolerate him like Harley does? That Batman would not kidnap Harley or anyone under the pretense of providing "therapy" by way of "house arrest?" That Batman would be smart enough not to compromise his secret identity by starting a makeout session as Bruce Wayne, interrupting said makeout session to change to Batman, and then continuing said makeout session *with* *the* *same* *woman?*

*twitch*

I check the archives for the marysues LJ community. That's where I found these gems.

There isn't much B5 badfic. Probably because it aired before most idiots had found the internet.