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I read the previous thread. I should have known. Its the user. Shame on you and your racism.

Do you have the link to the Discord server? Or maybe point me in the right direction? Thanks.

I joined... egads, six years ago, and I thought the community was surely long gone before I poked my nose in on the Board. And lo and behold, it was very much alive and kicking.

Also, hi! Allow me to present you a plate of freshly made SPaGhetti!

How did you find this organisation? I hope it wasn't as traumatic as mine.

I expected a long wait, because lowering one's expectations can lead to lower amounts of disappointment. But it seems like this community is still up and running. I look forward to wasting away here! clutches plushies and yeets away

Don't worry, I slept through the thing. I thought they were banned? How do these pop-ups work?

I gave you the hawk as a welcome gift to this community, and I am very angry that you are one of Toopurple’s “friends”. And now here we are again. Just like how I took Squishy Squirrel’s walnut, I’m taking back my hawk. You do not deserve it after posing as a newbie, while your true intention was to work for Bram.

~SomeRandomPersonAccount

In light of having to shut down performances due to recent events, The Metropolitan Opera is going to be streaming past performances of their Live in HD series free on their website starting tonight, March 16th, at 7:30pm EDT. These recordings will be free to watch for the next 20 hours (meaning that the one tonight will become unavailable tomorrow, March 17th, at 3:30pm EDT), and will be consistently aired until they open their doors again.

The Met's Live in HD series brings recordings of their performances to theaters in over 70 countries all around the globe. If you'd like to learn more about it, you can find that information here. The stream will likely have a number of languages to choose subtitles from.

Here's a link to The Met's website, if you're interested.

Tonight's performance is Bizet's Carmen, a famous French opera set in Spain, based off of a novella of the same name by Prosper Mérimée. Originally debuted in Paris on March 3rd, 1875, it was highly controversial for the time.

Here's a synopsis of it to get a good idea of what it's about, and here's one of the songs from the same recording as the one that's going to be streamed tonight. I'd suggest listening to a little bit of it if you haven't before, since it's a pretty recognizable song.

The entire list of performances for this week (starting with today) are: Bizet's Carmen, Puccini’s La Bohème, Verdi’s Il Trovatore, Verdi’s La Traviata, Donizetti’s La Fille du Régiment, Donizetti’s Lucia di Lammermoor, and Tchaikovsky’s Eugene Onegin.

I'm not sure how many people here are actually that interested in opera, but it feels wrong not to share this.

That's what I meant (and linked), but it looks like I forgot to change the description once I'd found the right link (I posted with that description and a note that I would link the post I was thinking of, and then apparently didn't think to describe it differently when I edited in the link).

~Z

One of the obvious jokes about our current medical situation bounced off of me to create this plotbunny I thought I'd infect y'all with: heist movie, but with corvids (and maybe some other critters too). They're presumably not going for a bank, but probably some big stash of food or the like - maybe a big heap of food at a restaurant that they want to steal away from the humans.

I can see a few ways to go about doing this. The first is to CGI the ever-loving crap out of it, because non-human actors are hard. The other, especially if you're willing to have the film be rather short and/orif this is meant to be artistic and not the next summer hit, is to actually go and film a bunch of nature footage, but then add voice lines (and probably edit a whole lot) to build a "dubbed" heist film out of a bunch of birds flying around doing bird things.

And, so this thread has a wider focus - more plotbunnies, for films or otherwise, welcome here!

Hello! I've come to gift you a pack of chocolate frogs. If they work with trauma caused by dementors, they should work with trauma caused by legendary badfics. Welcome again!

I'm pretty sure she's referring to the condition that I not talk to her "unless [I've] mended [my] ways," which I am in fact choosing to disregard. The thing is, I've had zero interest in talking to ZBram or anyone associated with her for years now, and I'm confident that the record of my conduct otherwise speaks for itself. The suggestion that I'm admitting guilt to ZBram's accusations by choosing not to talk to "Erynn" is an incredibly transparent logical fallacy.

~Neshomeh

In case you're not Bram, allow me to clarify. It has nothing to do with calling out oldbies- since joining, I've seen multiple instances of much newer people disagreeing with the oldbies. The thing is that people have no interest in rehashing the ancient feud with Bram, specifically. Her behavior is unacceptable, and no amount of nitpicking the decisions of Boarders will make that okay. Especially since we've been deluged with people who claim to "just want to talk" for literally years now, who inevitably turn out to be Bram again.

I had the same worry about joining- don't worry, there are plenty of people who just hang out and make fun of badfic. It is most excellent to meet you! Have a plushie rhino to drown out the Legendary Badfic.

Just that the reference seemed to be to something in this thread, rather than a past post or other communication from definitely!Bram.

(As to why it was brought up, it looks like a possible dig? I don't know. It looks like I got my stressful hour after all. So much for that intention.)

~Z

Unfortunately, it looks like pretty much every response I could give to yours would now necessitate going back to find exact posts and wording and so on if I want to be sure I have it right, and that sounds like a fairly stressful few hours, so I'm going to leave it at "there are nuances to all this (that I can't confidently state correctly without going back) and IIRC the bit about personalities was to do with that it should be possible to write and develop PPC characters to some extent outside of the PPC setting, because a well-rounded character is a well-rounded character."

This does leave me with one more question, though, which is actually more or less the same question with added context: you say you two were discussing your trying for Permission under the same conditions as Bramandin. This initially sounded strange because the process has changed; since it turns out you know it has, did you mean it was a hypothetical discussion? More like, "if you had to try for Permission under the same conditions I did, it would be impossible/you would fail because it's impossible" than "if you want Permission, you'll be going for it under the same conditions I did (and you'll fail because it's impossible)"?

~Z

PS: One reason why pretty much no one is eager to to reopen all this to any form of serious or less serious discussion is that it's already been gone over and gone over and gone over for years. This is why the wiki page gets linked as a fairly complete record of what's gone on; if you think the headings are biased, you can ignore them, but just about every major incident is linked. Zdimensia was banned; she came back as Bramandin, unbeknownst to most of us, got Permission, participated in the community, and when it eventually came out that she was a previously banned member, there was a discussion about how to proceed. As far as I remember, she was eventually banned a second time (I remember it taking ~half a year or more, but could be wrong) for new reasons, rather than purely because she'd been banned in the past. That's the ban being upheld at this point. She's come back under other new names since, several of which sparked still more discussions, attempts to hear her out (I'm pretty sure the gdoc where she was writing out her side of the story, or something similar, is linked either directly on the wiki page or in a relevant post which is itself linked there), and on and on. This is not a case of "there was one little misunderstanding, we banned her over it, and that's that, no one at the PPC is open to hearing her side and never has been." It's "she was banned once, perhaps partially due to misunderstandings, came back, got a second chance, was banned again, continued to return and sparked/participated in multiple discussions, and it eventually reached the point where it's become clear discussions/attempts at resolution of multiple sorts have not worked and are not working, and thus the ban is now upheld without response for everyone's sake." Believe me when I say we've been over this again and again for years. It's not healthy for anyone involved at this point; heck, this is probably the most personally involved I've ever gotten (2014-15 were busy times for me, and so I more or less missed Zdimensia, hadn't had much reason to interact with Bramandin before her identity as Zdimensia came out, and henceforth stayed pretty well out of the whole thing because I wasn't already involved and really didn't need more stress), and I've got a nice little bit of adrenaline going as I type. Other people have expressed worse feelings, including some who were more involved initially and some who have only been around a couple years. Bramandin herself has expressed some pretty bad reactions to interacting with this community. The general feeling here by now is that we've had all the discussions already, and done pretty much everything reasonable to attempt to resolve the situation, and even taken a few lessons from what happened. It's become clear that more discussions or attempts won't help at this point. Please, for everyone's sake, let's all move forward properly already.

And I think that's me done on any topic apart from the Permission bit. I don't mean any of the above as an attack on you or Bramandin, either, if it somehow comes across that way; I'm just trying to explain more of what's in play here, because I want you to understand that this is not a simple situation or one that was never really addressed/addressed only halfheartedly, and also just why the community is reacting the way it is.

I'm probably going to regret doing this, but: Erynn, if you want to be unbanned, you can email me at deltajuliette9@gmail.com with a brief summary of what Bram has done that has hurt this community since being banned. On the off chance you aren't Bram, I'm sorry to be throwing barriers in your way, but what you're doing right now looks an awful lot like things Bram has done before.

For convenience's sake, here's the wiki page where we've collected sources.

As far as I can tell, Neshomeh has not responded since the reply where she said she wouldn't anymore. There was no need to bring it up again, much less specifically say "conditions" in the plural.

Bram's set a lot of them in the past, yes, but there's at least one thing in this thread that could be referred to as such, and is probably what was being referred to (this post about responding by email).

For now, I'm inclined to think this isn't Bram herself (slightly different writing style), though I could be wrong. Either way, this doesn't look like an admission to me.

~Z

(Lame joke, sorry - couldn't resist.)

I am incredibly angry right now, so I'm just going to focus on this part. I think you addressed some of the problems by revising the permission process. I also lost the chat with Bram, so it would take time to dig out the actual links.

"Would you mind explaining what you mean by that? Specifically, this bit: "We discussed my trying for permission under the same conditions that you imposed on them." IIRC, there have been revisions to the Permission process since Zdimensia first put up a request, and possibly also since she did so as Bramandin (under which name she (they?) did actually get Permission after a couple tries, so...between that and the Boarders who've gotten Permission since, it's clearly not impossible to get Permission with the current or previous processes, assuming that's what's meant by the next sentence)."

The way I understand it, Bram had two teams. The first team, and the second team. Bram would eventually discover that the second team wouldn't work and they would break that into two teams, while also completely reworking the concept for one agent. Neshomeh's feedback was "You didn't use your mains" or something, which I would like an interpretation of what was actually meant. Bram tried many times to explain that they wanted to use their first team for the prompt, which was seemingly ignored, and behind their back Neshomeh actually wondered why Bram didn't disregard their instructions.

Another problem was that writing agents in the PPC setting was not allowed at all at the time. Neshomeh's advice to write the agents before they got to the PPC was rejected for good reason. Neshomeh's insistence that personalities don't change was not only wrong, but incredibly insulting.

Usually it's not like this, but Bramandin has a history with this community and is obsessed with... revenge? Reparations? I think? Nobody but they know exactly why they keep coming back, but they've been doing this several times a year for years.

Here is our history with them, should you want to learn more.

If it is against the rules to call out people who have simply been here longer, add it to the constitution.

Why are you sheltering them from the consequences of their actions? That's probably why they never learned how to deal with people calling them out. They either didn't listen to my conditions or they admitted that they haven't changed.