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for continuing to live on and stay strong even though she lost Wirenth. She could easily have turned out like Kylara or committed suicide, but she didn't.

Let them see how it feels.

I was thinking of setting up an LJ community devoted to watching for trolls on the Pit. Members pledge to send at least one report for EVERY troll that shows up, report trolls as soon as they show up (moderated comm, so we can check that the troll isn't just someone the poster has a grudge against), and everyone on the comm floods the support inbox with reports of each troll as it's reported. Would that stand a chance of working?

"If they're strong, the fanbrats claim they're 'sluts' or 'overpowered Mary Sues'. If they're not strong, the fanbrats whine about how there are no good female characters in the fandom."

And I won't be able to see him sob pathetically from the other end of an internet connection, so it'll take out all the fun.

how about Daja Kisubo? OKay so being a warrior isn't her main thing, but she can fight well (even without her magic), and she's definitely not a primarily beautiful or graceful kind of a girl :)

Second best, actually. Haleth is the best.

I think Mara Jade is sometimes a Sue, depending on who's writing her. Zahn in particular seems in love with her. She's usually cool, though.

Lobelia Sackvilleville-Baggins, Umbrella-wielder of the Shire!

But Samantha Carter from Star Gate. She is a genius and she can gun sling with the best of them.

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Well I agree with you about Zoe, I don't about River. The reason being, River is clinically insane. She was made into a clinically insane assassin and trained in the way of assassination through phycotropic drugs and a training regiment, her ability didn't come out over night (though it donsn't hurt to have mind reading ability.)

Leto

Have a mug filled with a beverage of your choice! Quaffing is purely optional.

I already mentioned Captain Unohana but there's also Yaone from Saiyuki and Meilin from Card Captor Sakura. Both of them tend to play second to their male teammate(s) in battle but they both have strong hearts and are perfectly capable of defending themselves. Though Yaone's outfit is some cause for concern it isn't nearly as bad as some Warrior Sue's. Meilin doesn't have any magic yet she still follows Syaoran to Japan to capture the Clow Cards and her martial art skills are very strong. But more than that she has a strong personality. She's very determined but also rather kind (even to Sakura, who she thinks it Syaoran's rival and there for an opponent). To me a strong female character isn't just defined by how good she is in battle. If we take battle ability out of the equation I'd like to throw another name into the pot: Yuuko Ichihara.

Oh, I just thought of a real Warrior Woman. Android 18 from DBZ. She beat Vegeta easily and she did it without being a 'Sue.

Yes, we haven't actually seen her fight but we've seen her bankai and we know she's powerful. She rules her division with an iron fist (even the 11th is scared of her) yet her division still loves her and she clearly loves them. She's strong, intelligent, independent, one of the oldest captains and she never even threatens a single soul while carrying out her duty. She also braids her hair in a practical, if slightly unusual, style. ^_^ I'm rather fond of her, you might have guessed.

Probably there's something about changing guards that could be said here, but I've never been very up on military history, it'd probably sound a bit silly coming from me at any rate, and I'm not convinced it would be accurate.

Best of luck to you! *offers a commemorative mug*

In which Caspian is out of his proper time frame.

The Eternal Newb is a long-haired glasses wearing guy who likes to perform cooking experiments and greatly enjoys raspberry flavored anything. He describes his home town as "Canada, New York." Will sometimes randomly change his accent without realizing he has done so.

His favorite canonverse is Ranma 1/2.

Does not possess a Jusenkyo curse.

DID however read something which shall not be named but is generally considered the height of evil. There seems to be no permanent effect, and he is still capable of eating ice cream.

Éowyn (LotR), Mariel (Redwall), Leela (Doctor Who), Kale (DragonKeeper Chronicles), Mara Jade Skywalker (Star Wars), Colonel Kira (Star Trek), Firebird Caldwell (Firebird Series), Molly Weasley (Harry Potter), Orual (Till We Have Faces)

http://burgerbecky.com/fiction/whencharlottecalls.htm

Jai and I are going to be retrieving the non-canon and lost animals and exorcising Ace.

I don't think we need to neuralyse the Nerimans, as they're used to this sort of thing.

...from the Firefly-verse. You don't get much more warrior than that. (Of course, some of that is lost when River goes all kickass with any and all available weaponry. And no armor...)
Others...I agree Tamora Peirce's character often fit that category. Angua from the Discworld series is that way as well. (Pratchett is VERY careful to avoid the scantily-clad warrior woman, ahaha.)

I loved The Family Tree. One of my favorite books ever. (And a completely awesome twist near the end ^^ )

So I've left my proper comment on the LJ entry. Here's to you guys!

I'll add Menolly and most of the Headwomen--Hall, Hold, and Weyr--for the more average Pernese women. They aren't warriors, but you can't tell me Manora and Silvina aren't awesome.

~Neshomeh