Perhaps we can nag the FFN mods to watch this LJ community (or a forum), so we can report for them that way? If we imply that it'll save their inboxes, they might just do it.
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A good idea. I just sent two emails. by
on 2008-07-11 01:37:00 UTC
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Thanks - sorry for posting my question twice (nm) by
on 2008-07-11 01:28:00 UTC
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Erp. I never answered your question, did I? Sorry - DMS (nm) by
on 2008-07-11 01:27:00 UTC
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Well, actually... by
on 2008-07-11 00:50:00 UTC
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I think there are more than enough "symbols of power and independance" for women around. Not to say that women don't deserve such thing, but quite frankly, we already have it, and I think a lot of women nowadays are throwing their victory into everyone else's faces. It seems like the pendulum has swung too far.
That said, I do like strong female characters. The one whom most fits your description is B'Elanna Torres from Star Trek: Voyager, but the one I most admire in terms of being a strong woman is Mara from Raymond E Feist and Janny Wurts' Empire series - she makes her victories by being clever politically, and has no skill at all with weapons. I like that. On a similar note, I love Yvaine from Stardust - the movie adaptation more than the book, but still. She is a fiercely strong-willed character, but I like that she keeps her strength without ever picking up a weapon (though she does wield her 'Super Shine Powers' (thankfully not referred to as such) to defeat an enemy).
Hm, I ramble. And aside from B'Elanna, I don't think this is what you wanted. Still, I wanted to say it. I like warrior women - I'd call myself one - but I tend to avoid them because from what I see in society today, I think it's overkill. We know women can be strong; what's unexplored is how strength, how the ability to fight and win, doesn't require weapons or battle cries. There are many I would call warriors that don't fight.
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Warrior Women who aren't Sues? Share your favorites! by
on 2008-07-11 00:33:00 UTC
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She's brave. She's graceful. She hasn't got a stitch on.
Many OCs we see shoved awkwardly into fanfic fit this description:
Mary Sue the Warrior is well known for unrealistic clothing, but you'd think that she'd at least cover up enough so that her vital areas aren't exposed in battle. Not so. While Warrior Sue is often armed to the perfect sparkling teeth with swords too heavy and weapons too awkwardly placed to reach, she fails to dress in the kind of outfit that would actually protect her from harm.
Armor and fighter clothes must be practical before they can be aesthetic. Gauntlets are not something you put on because they make you look sexy when you fight. Also, long flowing hair isn't a good idea—it's liable to get caught, pulled, or blown in one's face, obscuring the vision.
Why doesn't her profession come before her perm?
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The physical description is just the tip of the iceberg, but since we can all remember instances of more painful canon warping, I thought I'd let you off easy.
The sad thing is, the woman warrior has the potential to be a symbol of power and independence for women. It can possibly break a lot of molds around stereotypes of women. Yet Suethors take the idea and turn it into one big cliche. Even worse, these strong-willed women are usually bashed or warped in fanfiction, which makes them into weeping romantics or violent femme fatales.
Now, considering how much we all love good stories, we must have run into really awesome warrior women in our reading or viewing the canon we love. So, PPCers...let us know how it should be done! (You can name someone from literature/movies/TV, or even a goodfic OC, if there's one to be found. Historical figures, unless they're from historical fiction, don't count.) Pick a non-Sue woman warrior, and show the canon love. I'll post this to the PPC LJ entry after we're done.
I will, of course, contribute myself, but I want to see what you guys come up with.
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Mission Plug! Nadal/Federer Mpreg, believe it or not by
on 2008-07-11 00:30:00 UTC
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Apparently my having the 'flu means that me and Pads are extra productive; this time, I present to you the sporking of a Real Person Slash Mpreg Fic; Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer have a baby. Yes. You read that right.
The fic was in French. Pads doesn't really speak it and my French is six years old and very rusty, so translations were courtesy of Lee Trynace, my sister, Pads' dad and one of Pads' friends. Oh, and really silly translated sentences used for comedy are courtesy of Google.
You'll want to read this one, there's a bit of a ... surprise at the end. Heheheheh.
Linkage: http://agenttrojie.livejournal.com/29064.html#cutid1
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Wait, he's changed the fic-spamming account ... by
on 2008-07-10 22:54:00 UTC
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http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1569278/Kelilah
How much spare time does this guy HAVE?!
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Permission granted. Good luck, intrepid agents! (nm) by
on 2008-07-10 22:36:00 UTC
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Someone who lives in his mother's basement ... by
on 2008-07-10 22:34:00 UTC
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... and is desperate for any sense of superiority he can get from anywhere, so he gets it by sending death and rape threats to eleven-year-old kids.
If not for the fact that I don't want to provoke him and I wouldn't be able to see him cry, I'd send a message to him saying "You think I'm worthless? That's interesting, because last time I checked I am the one who had a tested IQ of 120, eight GCSEs at grade B or above, probably four A levels of similar grades though I haven't got the results yet, a conditional offer to a wonderful college, money in my bank account, family who love me very much even though they will not put up with me living in their basement into my thirties, and an entertaining and creative hobby which I enjoy with my many good friends in between work and other hobbies such as caring for my pets - who, I may add, are perfectly healthy and happy and going to remain so despite your verbal spewings against me and them ... and YOU were the one who thinks that the most productive use of your time is to spend day after day sending obscene and pointless messages to complete strangers."
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You are most welcome! by
on 2008-07-10 22:21:00 UTC
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It eats sue. The sparklier the better.
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Works for me by
on 2008-07-10 22:21:00 UTC
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I can't stand seeing people do this. How many people would be willing to do something like this?
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Let's spam the hell out of the mods with our complaints. by
on 2008-07-10 22:11:00 UTC
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Maybe if they open their inbox to a few thousand complaints they'll pay attention. I've sent a few dozen copies of a complaint to them today and I'll keep doing so until something is done.
His other account is posting graphic child-rape scenes with summaries and titles copy-pasted from real fics to "disguise" them. Interesting how they ignore this yet if you put up a PG-13 fic featuring two uses of the f-word they'll come down on you like a ton of bricks.
Think we should set up an lj comm and/or Pit forum just for tracking down and reporting trolls?
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Hello, Permission Givers? Are you there? by
on 2008-07-10 21:08:00 UTC
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I wish to request the attention of the Permission Givers.
I am requesting that my two Agents be given PPC status and allowed to start patrolling the continuums.
First Agent:
Luana Starlight
She is 24-years-old, with dark blond hair and gray eyes. She is a 5'10". She is slightly more responsible and a little less insane than her partner. The writer of the pair, she tends to get frustrated when something isn't easy to read. She enjoys reading well-written fanfiction and can't stand it when other people write Mary Sues or self-inserts that make no sense in the course of Canon. She does not mind reading AUs, except when they are badly written.
Because of her lifestyle, she enjoys different types of genres. This can include anything from Lord of the Rings to Star Wars to Monty Python. She has also already adopted a Mini-Balrog, Haildar, who is currently living in the family oven (don't ask).
Second Agent:
Orange Plaid
She is the younger sister to Luana Starlight. She is 20-years-old also with dark blond hair. She has blue eyes and is about 5'8". With a tendency to slack off when it comes to certain things, she is also the insane one of the pair. She also enjoys reading fanfiction with a tendency to stick to oldies but goodies. Loves to complain, loudly, about certain writers and their stories. With certain movies, she loves to MST them while watching, to the enjoyment of her sister/partner and their father, but to the annoyance of their other two sisters and mother.
They wish to join the Department of Floaters. They do not have any particular Canon they wish to join so they feel this would be the best place for them.
Here is a couple of samples of writing:
This one was written as a POV fic for a class.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1860044/1/GimlisStoryafterMoria
Here is my account on ff.net. I do not know what else to offer for review.
<a href="http://www.fanfiction.net/u/526002/LuanaStarlight">http://www.fanfiction.net/u/526002/Luana_Starlight
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I have already tried... by
on 2008-07-10 21:01:00 UTC
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I emailed the admin about him with a full list of everything I had seen from him. Several points:
* he was being very profane
* he was abusing the author ("you should just commit suicide and rid the world of your pathetic self")
* his reviews weren't even about the stories
This was several weeks ago and I am not sure if anything was done about this. Maybe if more people made complaints, they would actually do something.
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Yo. Hi there. by
on 2008-07-10 20:51:00 UTC
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Have a carnivorous rubber zebra and an urple welcome mat.
~Eni
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Email "support at fanfiction dot com". by
on 2008-07-10 19:09:00 UTC
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Punctuate as appropriate.
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Hmm...DMS, I think by
on 2008-07-10 18:09:00 UTC
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Though it could go either way, with the whole elf thing...
Really, depends on who wants to take it. Rather bad through and through.
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And here he is again! by
on 2008-07-10 16:57:00 UTC
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http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1569278/Kelilah That page currently has no NWS pictures on it, but he'll probably add one in a few minutes. This one isn't review-spamming, but he's posting page after page of spam with stolen titles and summaries.
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Re: Hello, Tiffpon! by
on 2008-07-10 16:41:00 UTC
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Ooooh... Ganbatte yo! XD