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- Interesting article on Springhole that relates to this... by on 2017-12-24 19:04:00 UTC Reply
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*snort* Wish I could join in, but how do you put pics in? (nm) by
on 2017-12-24 19:02:00 UTC
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Try going back to the earlier days... by
on 2017-12-24 18:43:00 UTC
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They're a lot easier. The first year, I think I only got... ten days in? Less? And the problems vary in difficulty, so...
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Have you ever just sat down and sporked a holiday movie? by
on 2017-12-24 17:15:00 UTC
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I did this last year with the Island of Misfit Toys. There is a part with a book where you can read the inside and the words are just nonsense.
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I see your point about the cloth. by
on 2017-12-24 15:22:00 UTC
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It's one thing I've tried hard to fix in #12; if I revise these, I will tweak it. I had issues with the skirt on the right-hand outfit looking pleated, but I've got that sorted out in my head now.
As to the faces... well, they weren't meant to be different angles! :D Yeah, you're not wrong.
hS
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And at last, #12: Own Choice. by
on 2017-12-24 15:18:00 UTC
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Agent Kaitlyn's dreams come true, in a piece I like to call:
Shrooms for the Shroom Throne!
I've tried to apply everything I've learnt over the course of Drawcember - particularly blending, shading, and hands - into an image which is spliced together from about five different photos. Obviously she's in hobbit disguise, which lets me shake off any minor issues in proportion (I actually had to redraw her head to be 'too large'...!). And... yeah, I knew from the very start that this was the only option for the last picture. ^_^
hS
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I prefer 'elf', but thanks for noticing. ^_^ (nm) by
on 2017-12-24 12:43:00 UTC
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hS is an ageless, undying eternal. This has been established (nm by
on 2017-12-24 12:30:00 UTC
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I will! (Warning: large pics) by
on 2017-12-24 09:27:00 UTC
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Some people are extremely badass-looking given that they're wearing polo necks and occasionally furry waistcoats.
Half a dozen preposterously ugly people have various emotions, not many of them specific, all of them unsettling.
Officers Ward and OhJesusWhatHappenedToYourFaceAndSkin on patrol in downtown Los Angeles.
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And to think we only got them . . . by
on 2017-12-24 03:49:00 UTC
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. . . thanks to wildlife protection laws and editing difficulties!
—doctorlit, ultimately pretty happy the Galaxy Far, Far Away contains porgs now
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Re: reality ensues by
on 2017-12-24 03:47:00 UTC
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"They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler."
Yeah, they did a good job with that message. I also liked that, like the question of grey morality among the Jedi, they didn't try to paint heroics as black-and-white either. Poe got rightly condemned for losing so many lives to take out a scary ship, delaying an evacuation in the process. But Vice Admiral Holdo actually uses a suicide tactic later on, this time for the sake of saving lives and giving an evacuation more time to continue. It's a movie that asks you to weigh your options before acting.
—doctorlit, amused by "the perfect Jedi is a droid"
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Re: Leia and plot and characters and Abrams by
on 2017-12-24 03:36:00 UTC
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I admit I didn't really notice before you pointed it out, but you're right about the entire mission Finn and Rose went on: it's a fetch quest. I've been trying to come up with a way to "fix" it the way I would if I were editing a story, but . . . I really can't find anything. (Other than your suggestion of having Finn and Rose use their technical skills and experience to solve the problem. But that would have been a much shorter movie . . .
I really don't think there was any intentional emotional manipulation on the filmmakers' parts. As far as I understood it, filming was already completed when we lost Carrie Fisher, so I think the scene with the bridge attack was already planned and shot by then. A little uncomfortable in hindsight, to be sure, but I don't blame them for wanting to leave as much of her acting work in as possible.
—doctorlit, too distracted by the feels and the spectacle to notice the holes in the plot
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The best Admiral! by
on 2017-12-24 03:14:00 UTC
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"They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler." "They hate that spoiler."
(Yeah, I hilariously overestimated how much spoiler text was necessary in the initial post . . .)
But that only makes it worse! We could have had a movie with a whole bunch of Admiral Ackbar scenes right in the middle! That would have been amazing! Like, no offense to Vice Admiral Holdo or her actor, just . . . I don't know you, Vice Admiral Holdo. I knew Admiral Ackbar. He was an old friend . . .
. . . Oh, but I just discovered the reason. Wikipedia says Ackbar's original voice actor passed away after The Force Awakens. They found another voice actor for Last Jedi, but maybe wanted to retire the character? I feel like a jerk, now . . .
I do feel like there's a bit of a bias towards human characters in Star Wars, especially in the newer films. I don't think Chewbacca has gotten nearly as much relative screen time in VII and VIII as he did in the original trilogy. I know Luke, Leia and Han were always the focus, but there was still room for Chewbacca and even Ewoks to participate in battles. And the prequels had Jar Jar and brought Chewbacca back for a bit . . . I know Jar Jar wasn't well received, but my point is that in this series set in space and filled with planets of unique, bizarre life forms, and the main movers and shakers always seem to be humans. I realize that the CGI or makeup/puppetry for an alien character is more complex than just throwing clothes on an actor and putting them on screen, but I really would like a bit more species diversity in a series full of aliens . . .
—doctorlit just, like, doesn't know Vice Admiral Holdo, okay?
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An interesting fact about porgs: by
on 2017-12-24 00:04:00 UTC
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They're only there because Skellig Michael (aka Luke's island) is absolutely full of puffins, and it was too much effort to edit them out. Thus, porgs were designed and edited over all the puffins in shot. =]
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Found the time of reading it. by
on 2017-12-23 21:19:00 UTC
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I'm curious, (rot13 for people who didn't read it yet) Qvq rvgure bs gur Nergurn znantrq gb trg guebhtu gurve Rkl'f sbegerff bs abcr? And have you any idea about writing other stories using that 'verse?
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Saw it today with my brothers. by
on 2017-12-23 21:13:00 UTC
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And I liked it. The grayer view on the Force and the Jedi is something I always appreciate, especially when you remember the way Jedi are supposed to work before Order 66 (Fan of KotORs and the Old Republic in general speaking). And I always felt like 'Euh, so the perfect Jedi is a droid?' and 'How Anakin is the only one Jedi snapping? That way of doing things just breed darksiders'. Good to see that questioning brought up in the movies, beyond the 'meta' we can see with Luke mocking the idea he's a Deus Ex Machina, especially when we remember so many people prefered Han over him in the original trilogy.
I also like the general 'Reality Ensues' attached to the Resistance and so many points of the movie. Heroes and desperate plans don't always save the day, not all scoundrels have the nobless of becoming Han Solo, defeating the superweapon or killing their leader doesn't mean the enemy is done... The lesson of 'sometimes the only possible victory is living long enough to fight again later' is also a good one point to bring out too.
And frankly, I like the way Kylo offed Snoke. We know the dark side is a way laced with treachery, where apprentices kill their masters to take their power... Actually seeing it happen successfully (for once) feels impressive, and the fight scene with the guards after that certainly don't spoil anything. Having him stay on the dark side feels perfect here too, the idea he could have turned back to the light here would have been so cheap.
Also really liked the scene were they used Yoda the puppet. It's so precious, fun, awesome, and the essage he delivers he's the right one at the moment.
And I don't see why some people on the web are saalty bout the way Luke dies. First, the projection thing?LegendsExpanded Universe had Force illusions, and if a Jedi can create one of a Super Star Destroyer, or some darksiders the illusion of more warships in a fleet, why not this? And the idea it overetends Luke and costs him his life isn't far-fetched or anything to me. And as a small OT, don't see that much of a problem with the critters Porg. Sure, they're clearly there to make plushies, but they appear seconds at most in a row, except when they distract Chewie. I can get over them.
All in all, I liked that movie, and I'm curious about where they'll go with the next ones.
... Yes, the scene with Leia and the vacuum felt a bit ridiculious. I wonder where she got enough of a Force training for pulling that off. Still not spoiling the movie for me.
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Hey, I'm only eighteen! by
on 2017-12-23 18:09:00 UTC
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[Checks the calendar] And... a bit.
A big bit.Shaddup.
hS
PS: Happy birthday, Hardric! Haha you're old(ish).
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But on a lighter note.. by
on 2017-12-23 17:19:00 UTC
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Congratulations on finishing your finals, Hardric, and good luck in the job search! But a bit of advice: It's not what you know, it's who knows you. Make sure to make connections in the field you want to go in.
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Nice designs by
on 2017-12-23 17:15:00 UTC
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I really like the designs for the outfits, they all seem to fit quite nicely. There is one thing I would like to point out, the cloth seems really stiff. There are no folds at all even at the elbows. Also, the lower parts of the dresses should have some kind of folding as well, because it's loose. I see that you did place some folds on the right picture, but folds should go up to the point of support. Oh and about the faces, different angles create different shapes for the face. If you wanted to use the exact same pose but with different face angles, I suggest using a circle as a placeholder, then adding the jaw according to the angle you want the face to be in.
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Belated birthday wishes to you by
on 2017-12-23 16:55:00 UTC
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And if you think being 24 is old, then what about poor thirty-year-old me? (Not to mention people like hS and Hieronymus Graubart!)
Age for the win?
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So I had a quick look at this... by
on 2017-12-23 16:29:00 UTC
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... back when you posted it at first. I didn't intend to do it, but figured I might have a think about it.
Yeah... I couldn't even understand the question. ^_^ That sort of programming is far beyond me.
So yes, I am very impressed.
hS
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The good Admiral. by
on 2017-12-23 16:20:00 UTC
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Are we still doing spoiler blocks? I guess we are; it's a good opportunity to just ramble incoherently for a while. I certainly agree with you about the reunion - I don't think I said in my other comment, but Luke's 'Artoo!' was the first time he genuinely sounded like Luke Skywalker again. ^_^
Now, Admiral Ackbar: in the old EU, he was written out off-screen too, dying ignominiously of old age. I'm pretty sure Mon Mothma went the same way.
In fact, the EU had a nasty habit of bumping off all its elder statesmen in depressing ways. Pellaeon at least got to be assassinated, but Crix Madine was shot by a lunatic Hutt, Ta'a Chume ended up in a coma, Jan Dodonna just got old... stars, the EU was a depressing place sometimes. (Though for my money, the most miserable death was Em Teedee, Lowbacca's translator droid... who got dropped on a ship which later crashed and incinerated him. I don't think anyone even noticed he'd gone.)
Sorry, random asides aside: it is a shame we lost Admiral Ackbar so... pointlessly. I mean, he had to die to let Vice Admiral Holdo take command (btw, unrequited Holdo/Leia 'ship, y/n?), but we could at least have seen it. Unlike Warhammer, Star Wars isn't generally a place for 'anyone can die any time'.
hS
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Thank you! by
on 2017-12-23 16:06:00 UTC
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The pouches and pockets were Kaitlyn's idea; she has Opinions about pockets on women's clothing.
As to the foot: yeah, it would. On the source image, she was in mid-step, so the toes were bent up and the foot arched. I glossed that out in the drawing, but didn't adapt it properly.
That said, as the person who made both that dress and that Time Lord collar, I think you have me thoroughly beat when it comes to costume design. ^_~
hS
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This week in decontextualised images. by
on 2017-12-23 15:59:00 UTC
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Because all these words can sometimes be too much, and it's nearly Christmas, right?
Adult Harry Potter is happy.
That's an... interesting brooch you've got there.
PoGo is good again, FOREVER.
No explanations. No links.
Post your own.
hS
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Nice designs! (+commentary on additional) by
on 2017-12-23 15:55:00 UTC
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You did a great job making the outfits feel distinct, yet very Kaitlyn—I can get the sense that all four of them would definitely be worn by the same person. I like the little details like the pouches, chainmail, necklaces... Will you design my next Ren fair costume for me? :P
Really, my only critique is that her left foot (our right) looks oddly arched in the middle. I'd make it a bit flatter and bring the toes more up, if that makes sense?