was Nord ignoring his issues and pretending nothing happened, as he did in his previous offense. I don't believe he was DMing something to Angel regarding this behaviour, given her surprise that something like this had happened.
In my opinion, however, this was an intentional flame given the same response to being called out for a guilty incident.
Addition: As of now, 5.11 my time, no response was made from Nord, about Angel asking for apologies. Whether or not they occured in DM, I do not know.
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The only pattern I could find... by
on 2018-01-01 16:14:00 UTC
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If this wasn't a misunderstanding... by
on 2018-01-01 15:49:00 UTC
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... then it actually looks pretty bad. Taken at face value, that's a direct flame of another PPCer, not provoked by similar behaviour on their end, and a refusal to apologise there-for. It suggests Nord Ronnoc believes that mocking other PPCers is acceptable - when in fact, a PPCer shouldn't be flaming any real people, PPCer or not.
Given that Nord Ronnoc's name came up in the Conciliatory back in May, it may be worth someone who's able to cope with looking at that thread reading through it to find out whether this is part of a pattern, or just a one-off.
hS
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Re: prompt by
on 2018-01-01 12:43:00 UTC
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This is a very different story from anything else I've read, and it made for a very interesting read. You've really done an incredible job of seeding this narrative with little bits and pieces of world-building detail, but only enough to inform the reader that we aren't looking at humans in an Earth setting. You don't slow the action or dialogue down with excess details like the descriptions of the characters or the society they live in or the magic system that (maybe?) exists. With all those questions essentially forced under the rug, it leads the reader to focus more on the parts of the story that really matter: the relationships between the characters and their emotions—in other words, how human they are. Reading a story this way was a very unique experience, and it made the ending hit even harder.
One little nitpick, regarding this pair of paragraphs:
"'Dantril’s brought in someone new. We’ll see, Lath,' she said. 'We’ll see.'
'I know you want me to have all the answers, but I don’t,' she said, when he didn’t respond. 'I wish I knew, too. But we can’t, Lath. We aren’t gods.'"
I suggest moving the "when he didn't respond" to the front of that second paragraph, as the start of a new paragraph and new quotation mark tricked my brain into thinking Lath was speaking it.
—doctorlit, sleepy, but still getting through these reviews
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For clarity: by
on 2018-01-01 12:35:00 UTC
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I beta'd the entire Permission document once, suggesting several changes. I didn't take a second look after those changes were made (I don't remember whether Pasty Greens didn't let me know they were updated, or whether I just spaced it).
hS
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I think it was. by
on 2018-01-01 04:46:00 UTC
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For a few reasons:
a) Nord blatantly ignored anything about the issue, despite being individually asked for it four separate times.
b) He only reacted with a vauge "won't happen again" after I posted this on Board.
c) I would like to avoid another issue of "Discord handles their own matters, and turns out the Board knows nothing", if we happen to drop into a major drama. Even if the offense at this time wasn't a big drama. Call me paranoid, but I thought at the moment this was the right thing. I won't bring up every smallest dispute to the Board, but let this be a sort of example to why we should make these cases public.
Also, about Nord assurance, this is all that happened: https://i.imgur.com/1TLOs8I.png
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*at least not one that's been made in a public chat. (nm) by
on 2018-01-01 04:01:00 UTC
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On question 2 by
on 2018-01-01 03:48:00 UTC
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I worded my message in a vague way about Nord saying he won't do it again and I apologize for that.
He actually posted the message, "It won't happen again." in #generic_salt.
That particular message is the only reassurance I can recall. I have not gotten a private message from him about it.
I took a screenshot that I think the others at discord can confirm in terms of the message itself (the times are going to be different because of timezones):
https://imgur.com/a/KHnNk
So far (11:48 PM my time), there hasn't been a clarification and he hasn't made an apology yet, at least one that's been made in a public chat.
--Ozzielot
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Okay, now that the adrenaline's worn off... by
on 2018-01-01 02:31:00 UTC
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I have a couple of questions.
1. Did this need to be brought up here? Shouldn't this have been dealt with by the mods? It seems Maslab was aware of the situation and presumably prepared to do something about it, right? OpinionedAngel didn't even know anyone had a beef with them. Unless there's a bigger problem than this one incident that's been going unresolved for some reason...?
2. Since it HAS been brought up here, I'd like to know if Nord Ronnoc assured anyone who was concerned earlier, or a mod, or anyone besides Ozzielot, that it won't happen again. Also, was there ever any clarification on what he meant? And what about an actual apology, for apparently ignoring people's requests for clarification even if the rest was a misunderstanding?
~Neshomeh
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Wait what? by
on 2018-01-01 00:48:00 UTC
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This is the first time I've heard about it. Ought I to be offended?
No seriously.
I don't spend too much time on Discord and tend to miss out on things. (And I admit I might have said some things I regret, but I missed out on a chance to reply and apologize...)
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Permission Request by
on 2018-01-01 00:45:00 UTC
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Here it is, finally. I wanted to wait for New Year's Eve.
Thanks to Huinesoron for beta-ing my first thing.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bl01B1KsRROA7xPcSBPvHviD4EAhhH-hB0dm5axJIbg/edit?usp=sharing
Character gallery: https://imgur.com/a/8haGI (from Rinmarugames.com and the Covet Fashion app)
I want to put both characters in the Mary Sue division, or at least have one of them in Floaters.
The first story I want to spork is one of my own, the 3-parter that I have in some notebooks that I wrote when I was twelve. After that, I really want to tackle the miniature My Immortal, (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12602418/1/Im-Not-Okay) which I've listened to a lot on Youtube.
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Nord already said it wouldn't happen again (nm) by
on 2017-12-31 23:41:00 UTC
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Clarification: Not an actual RL legal case. by
on 2017-12-31 22:24:00 UTC
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For future reference, people, please be very careful with this sort of wording. I nearly had a frigging heart attack thinking this was going to be something extremely awful.
Not that it isn't important to deal with lesser stuff, too, but gah.
I'll come back to this in a bit.
~Neshomeh
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Legal Case: v. Nord Ronnoc by
on 2017-12-31 22:12:00 UTC
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Dearest PPC! Ladies, gentlemen, those who are yet to make up your mind and those who do not wish to do so!
I hate being the bearer of bad news. So before I say anything, I ask all of you to be calm and professional about this. Last thing we need on this last day of the year is another drama to divide us. Once again, I would like all of us to discuss and take appropriate measures in this case, and leave the matter with no negative future consequences.
I, Matt Cipher, would like to file a complaint about the behavior of another member, known as Nord Ronnoc. I am well-aware that a pit between the Board and Discord is vast and treacherous, but let us all gather here, to take care of our members.
Today, that is December 31st, 2017, at 1:24 PM (my time), Nord Ronnoc posted a message in the channel #generic_salt, used to vent mostly about video games and other media. He said as follows:
"People always say 'OMG CARTOONS ARE DYING1!1' or some other form."
During the course of discussion, it was revealed that this was his impression of another member - OpionedAngel - which was ultimately followed by a conclusion of mockery and accusations of stupidity. Without any sort of further comments from the defendant.
Additional comments and messages were delivered, asking Nord Ronnoc to explain his point of view, including one from Moderator Maslab, yet were only met with silence and blissful ignorance, as Nord later on continued participating in the regular chat discussions, pretending nothing has happened.
In absence of any testimony from the defendant, and being given a plenty of time to do so, I wish to make this case public and ask for a case and eventual solution of it. Mockery without explanation is not a major offence, but one that shouldn't be swept under a rug.
Additional Attachments and Evidence:
https://imgur.com/DL201wN
Exhibit A: Initial discussion, Iximaz's plea for explanation.
Exhibit B: Nord's appearance and ignoring the issue despite further pleads.
Exhibit C: Matt Cipher's personal message to Nord, advising him to explain himself. Ignored.
As of this moment, 10:51 PM (my time), not one response was made from Nord.
Thank you for your attention.
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Richard Legard and Marina Nicodelli juuust got volunteered! by
on 2017-12-31 19:07:00 UTC
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Totally enthusiastically without duress.The mail was sent, tell me if there are any problems.
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Re: responses by
on 2017-12-31 16:31:00 UTC
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The compromise was tripping my grammaticality detector, which is why I pointed it out.
I remember that thread! That was a cool thread.
Huh. That is way different from the style I'm used to on ellipses. Good to know it's not a mistake.
On top of giving a good impression of New Cal, y'all did a good job of describing people's mental states without spelling it out, which, on re-think, is what I was trying to get at.
The situation isn't particularly confusing, it's just that, as written, there's a possibility for the characters' confusion/denial/naivety to tank the relationship.
- Tomash
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Calling all agents! It's the 2018 New Year's Gift Exchange! by
on 2017-12-31 16:01:00 UTC
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Because the last time I tried setting this up, everyone (including me) ended up being way too busy. ^^; Anyway, let's try this again and hope people have more time for it! I'm going to set up the same rules as with my previous attempt, so if anyone wants in, just shoot me an e-mail!
ADMISSION AND SETUP:
1. You need to have Permission and at least two agents to enter this event. You don't have to have the teams participate in their entirety, either - any one of your agents can opt out based on whatever's most convenient for you.
2. All Boarders and agents will be going in basically blind - meaning that nobody will know who sent what until all the gifts have been opened! Hence, in order to enter, send me an e-mail (my address is clickable) with your attending agents and which gift each will bring. This may be either a "souvenir" from a mission you've published previously, or just something they happen to have that they want to give away. As soon as you've sent the e-mail, reply to this post with the word "Sent" and no message content, so everyone will know who's participating.
3. I will take six or seven other Boarders for this year's event, so the first seven Boarders to submit applications will be the ones attending.
4. Anyone with Permission can host this event. One of their agents must serve as an in-universe host for this event, but all agents are required to participate as players, including the host. I will confirm who the host will be if and when anyone steps forward - otherwise, Falchion will be the host this year. (My other participating agents will be my DIC and DMS-VG teams, but no other agents of mine will be participating, for some very spoilery reasons.)
EVENT RULES:
5. Once everything's been set up, preferably on New Year's Day, the Boarder volunteering the event host will set up an introductory post on the T-Board for this event. The most important rule: NOBODY MUST KNOW WHAT THE GIFTS ARE UNTIL THEY'VE OPENED THEM. All of the gifts will be wrapped and put in a big pile at the start of the game.
6. Once I've tallied the full list, I'll provide a list of the players, and a list of the gifts, but not a list of who sent what. The starting player will then be selected at random. Then when that player opens a gift, the agent who submitted it must speak up and confirm that they were the one who did so. Then that agent is the next to play! Thus, in general, the person who will play during each turn is the one who volunteered the gift revealed during the previous turn.
7. For each turn, the agent currently in play can either choose a gift from the pile (I'll provide the full list of gifts on the Posting Board) or, if others before them have already chosen gifts, they can "steal" a gift from the previous owner. A gift can be stolen up to twice; after that, it is locked to the agent it's ended up with, and cannot be stolen again. Note also that if a gift is stolen from any agent, THEY CANNOT STEAL IT BACK.
8. The game ends once everyone has received a gift. Since the first agent cannot steal, he/she will be given the choice to steal after everyone else has played.
And there you have it - hopefully this year we'll actually HAVE a Gift Exchange. Again, if anyone wishes to participate, just send me an e-mail with the agents planned to be involved and the gifts they'll be bringing. Good luck! :)
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Thanks! Some responses. by
on 2017-12-31 14:34:00 UTC
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The hill is just referred to uncapitalized as "the cemetery hill" in its earliest appearances. I guess I'm torn between just continuing to refer to it that way and making it a proper name.
HQ totally has an economy! Mostly trade-based, also with some sort of system for exchanging all the many canonical currencies that people get their appendages on. (May vary per establishment/writer discretion.) There was a really fun thread about this a couple years ago.
All the ellipses are spaced like that. It's a Chicago-style thing.
There is a Monster Book of Monsters loose in the halls of HQ. Have fun with it! {= D
Re. imagery, I really wanted to give a better impression of New Caledonia than we've had before. I'm glad it works!
And I wouldn't say we're ship-teasing, nor trying to make the situation particularly confusing... but the characters themselves are confused and/or painfully naïve and/or in denial, so there is that. {= )
~Neshomeh
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Took a try at it :D by
on 2017-12-31 03:45:00 UTC
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My thoughts as I was doing this: Hey, what could go wrong, hmm? The answer: Everything! XD Much thanks to Iximaz for beta-ing. As this is five pages long, I shall post in Google Doc form. Hope y'all enjoy!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j6m06xLaikiDOoxdI81g6_Ps1LYOXgnZpli8BslVPG4/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: Teeny tiny review by
on 2017-12-31 02:55:00 UTC
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The lack of comma was to show how fast Daichi was saying it, I believe they're usually used for slight pauses.
Thank you! I aim to torture my readers, apparently.
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Teeny tiny review by
on 2017-12-31 02:50:00 UTC
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So I like the stylistic choices you were making in the end. Those really brought to life the desperation and the emotion Kara was feeling. You have some syntax I frown upon- in particular, the "don't worry Mum!" in the 4th line looks to me like it should be "don't worry, Mum!" Other than that, I really like it! It starts of pretty typical PPC, then it's got some foreshadowing, and it ends with a pretty big punch. I like it :D
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Impressions and review by
on 2017-12-30 22:44:00 UTC
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- I'm liking how the opening two paragraphs characterize Ilraen and Farilan's attitudes towards each other
- Or do they? That summary was oddly insistent
- As is that next bit, where Farilan is concerned about the scar
- Ok, Ilraen needing to explain Christmas presents is cute
- Well, handing over the Monster Book of Monsters could've gone worse
- "If she'd had eyebrows at that moment, she would have raised one." is good
- The thing with Ilraen cutting off the string of names was a nice touch
- That was a good discussion of clothes
- Farilan's got a point about the balance
- Minor wording nit: Is it "the Cemetery Hill" or just "Cemetery Hill"? I'd've used the latter.
- Ilraen has good taste in introductory food, and I'm liking the vague nod to the fact that HQ probably has an economy of some sort
- "Ilraen, did you take me out here to teach me, or to romance me?"
- Nice save, Ilraen. And, hey friends is good
- (on reread) "doing her best to look dismissive" is a good way to show what Farilan thinks about this
- Human stuff for Homeworld stuff is a good conversation thing
- (on reread) Y'll've got a four-dot ellipsis after "scoops". Unless that's meant to be "... .", in which case you've got extra spaces in your ellipsis.
- Museums of lost writing do sound like a thing Farilan would like
- IIRC, hands to the face were an intimate gesture for Andalites, so the vague hint of one ... Are you two ship-teasing?
- Hi, Monster Book of Monsters. Wasn't expecting to see you there at the end.
- gets to Ix's author's note They're going to start dating. I'm calling it now.
Review-y bit:
So, first impressions. One thing that stood out for me was the vivid imagery throughout the piece. Like, it wasn't verbose, but y'all did a good job of putting together good (and sometimes funny) descriptions of things.
I like how the whole situation played out.
I personally really enjoy reading non-human perspectives on humans (and vice versa), so I have to say I liked those bits and that I wouldn't've objected to more (but I am an outlier here I suspect).
Hm. Crit. Aside from the minor typos in the list above, the only other bone I could see myself picking (and I'm debating with myself about whether this is an issue) is that "The time passed far too quickly. Soon Ilraen's two hours were almost up" leaves "and then for a while, more of what we just saw" a bit implicit. I inferred that from context, but it maybe could've used a few more words to specify. Maybe? It's nearing midnight, I'm not sure.
- Tomash
- I'm liking how the opening two paragraphs characterize Ilraen and Farilan's attitudes towards each other
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Oh, and if you prefer to read in Gdocs... by
on 2017-12-30 21:53:00 UTC
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I meant to include the Gdocs link, too, but forgot, because I am derp. Here it is:
Also "Third Kind."
~Neshomeh
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New Faraen interlude! by
on 2017-12-30 21:49:00 UTC
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"Third Kind"
In which there are close alien encounters.
Timeline: Early 2016.
Rating: PG/K+ - Just a platonic study date and absolutely nothing more. Nope.
Beta: Delta Juliette.
... We're only like a year and a half behind the actual events. Shush. >.>
~Neshomeh